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February 18, 2014, 10:36:17 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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uli
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 3 +0.254
133.718mph
1 52:14.062
131.300mph
32 1:36.518
133.234mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.087
133.951mph
2 +0.065
131.297mph
32 1:36.579
133.149mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 5 +0.640
133.184mph
3 +0.155
131.293mph
32 1:36.412
133.380mph
Dunlop  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 1:35.914
134.073mph
4 +14.459
130.697mph
32 1:36.933
132.663mph
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.764
133.013mph
5 +15.250
130.664mph
32 1:37.237
132.248mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +1.297
132.284mph
6 +19.865
130.473mph
32 1:36.891
132.721mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 NVRacing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 11 +1.488
132.024mph
7 +26.580
130.196mph
32 1:37.912
131.337mph
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.475
132.042mph
8 +36.537
129.787mph
32 1:37.805
131.480mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.878
132.856mph
9 +44.333
129.469mph
32 1:37.692
131.632mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.098
132.555mph
10 +51.310
129.185mph
32 1:37.348
132.098mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 12 +2.354
130.861mph
11 +1:13.486
128.292mph
32 1:37.999
131.220mph
Goodyear  
Gareth
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 14 12 +29L
121.230mph
3 1:40.983
127.343mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 4 +0.357
133.575mph
13 +32L
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 15 ---
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Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 16 ---
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Dunlop  
UKGPL 8
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 13 17 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

No reported incidents.

Drivers are reminded that they MUST take the same chassis. I have simply made Dean a guest for this race, so this is one of the dropped scores.


Server replay time: 0h01m10s

Ronnie gets a great start and passes Uli on the way into Curva Grande. He takes quite a tight line and as Uli slides wide they touch. Catastrophic for Mr Peterson. Behind ArfArfArf takes avoiding action thinking that Ronnie will spin across the track and tags Natan. Colin spins out.

Ronnie could (and for self-preservation, should) have stayed wider - Uli was always going to slide across - but Uli could have helped by maintaining a tighter line. Arf^3 could also have maintained his line. Understandable reaction though. Unfortunate.

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« on: February 14, 2014, 03:23:41 PM +0000 »

Season 26 Professionals Trophy, Round 3, Monza

Welcome to the Professionals Trophy for the 1965 Grand Prix cars.

There is not much to say about this high speed circuit in northern Italy every GPLer knows...


Division Moderator =   Badblood
Race List =   IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = tba
Race date = 18-02-2014
Qualification Time   = ~20:45  UK time -> 30-45 min
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track = Monza (Papy)
Variant = 65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = ~50 min -> 32 laps
RED ZONE = From the start to the exit of the Lesmo2
Password = see above
Replay = you will get here


Driver lists and series rules can be found on the championship standings page.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be the first lap up to the exit of the Lesmo2.

Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 04:40:27 PM +0000 »

Hopefully no extra time tonight, straight on with it. Though I make no guarantees as to my sobriety  wacko

Edit. it is not possible to turn up half cut with no prac, even on the well known track, and finish.

I over corrected into a lesmo and the rail thanked me with a wheel off.

ill get my mojo back!

thanks to mods.

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 10:32:19 PM +0000 »

Quiet race, consistent 38s but littered with minor errors. No chance to catch anybody really, so all I can say is congrats to the trio who finished within a second of each other at the front.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 10:45:34 PM +0000 »

Bloody T1 AGAIN

Looks like Uli went into Ronnie and caused some bent metal. I was in amongst some guys that slowed and tried to avoid it by moving right. I got hit by Natan. Will be interested to hear his side of it, looked to me like he moved right, but didn't slow.

Whatever happened, the car felt wrong, and I never matched the times I got in qually. Was frustrating to be the same distance behind Jethro for most of the race knowing I could not catch him. The car was great in the corners, I was much quicker through them than Doni and nHance when I was racing them (even passsed nHance through Curva Grande!!), but on the straight everyone was faster (ignoring draft).

First three over the line were an impressive 0.15 seconds apart, which must have been quite exciting for all concerned. Well done to all three (and also wd to Cookie who went -ve on 67s the other day).

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 10:57:00 PM +0000 »

Quali went as planned, working together with Axel, and that got me pole Wink

However, in the race it seemed my gearings were slightly too tall, trying to get away with not using 2nd as well. Had a reasonable start and was able to lead  initially, but saw a few cars crash, hope it wasn't due to me...

Dropped down the order in the lead draft, but that was OK for me, was expecting a few cars to crash the way they raced, but somehow everyone kept a cool head.

Then had a brain fart, and lost the lead draft into Para. Then I raced Natan and Clutch for a while for P5, and when Dean went off a couple laps for the finish, that handed me P4 when Clutch had lost a gear. Some good racing going on, very clean and fair Wink

Disappointed that my gearings didn't work out, when I had the same in quali, they were good for drafting, but not for clean air. Again a mistake, however pleased I was able to get back to P4 Wink

Again congrats Uli and podium!

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 11:19:18 PM +0000 »

Yeah, Robert, but psssst Roll Eyes

My best ever Monza race! 32 laps wheel to wheel with up to 5 racers all clean and fair driving!

I only know that feeling of my former career in RC-Car racing, when you have the total trust in what you are doing...

Several Lesmos and Paras side by side, reacting on smallest moves of the others

Look at the GPLRA report of lead changes:

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LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
Robert Fleurke                   1
Axel Cookie                      2-5
Uli Hofmann 1965                 6-7
Axel Cookie                      8-9
C Clutch65                       10
Dean Logan_65                    11
Tristan Bot                      12-13
Uli Hofmann 1965                 14-15
Tristan Bot                      16
Uli Hofmann 1965                 17-18
Tristan Bot                      19
Uli Hofmann 1965                 20-22
Axel Cookie                      23
Uli Hofmann 1965                 24
Axel Cookie                      25-26
Uli Hofmann 1965                 27-29
Axel Cookie                      30
Uli Hofmann 1965                 31-32

Number of lead changes: 17
Number of leaders: 6

Thanks Uli, Tris, Dean and Clutch for this great fight thumbup2
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 11:46:34 PM +0000 »

Monza - Surely a 'must' for every UKGPL season. I've had some terrible online races in the last few seasons but Monza is always good fun and restores my faith everytime.

Managed to hang with the leaders, and even lead, during the first 10 laps or so. Everyone was completely fair, early breaking, space given..etc, but man, it was tight at times. Thats the beauty of drafting at Monza though, you can sit there in a group and watch the race unfold.

Had a good race with Cookie for the lead, but had to brake on the inside for Parabolica which i'm never too good at and as we both struggled to get the power down our front wheels touched. No harm done, though Cookie lost a couple of seconds. Next lap, and i put a couple of wheels in the sand at Parabolica and allowed Cookie back through. I knew i had to get him within 2 laps if i could get the tow, otherwise he'd be gone, getting the tow from the group in front - as it ended up, i lost 1/2 a second or more and that was enough for him to get clear and join the others ahead, no hard feelings and glad he was able to take it rightful position at the front.

After that, it became clear that not running in a group was costing me about a second a lap, and new over-heating issues with my left front, were causing the car to under-steer a lot (possible after the tap with Cookie, possibly due to the balance changing as the car got lighter, or just a poor set-up).

Robert was catching me bit by bit and i awaited his arrival to see if we could draft togther and dent the leaders 10+ second lead. As it turned out we couldn't and we both resigned ourselves to fighting for 5th. The racing was clean and fair and great fun, and i even gave Robert the odd raised arm as he came through as we swapped positions. As it is, i missed gear on the start/finish line with 1 lap to go, gave him 1 second on me and it was too much, though he was a lot quicker into Parabolica than me so it was always going to be his position on the last lap.

Well done to the top 3, great clean racing which kept my Pribluda busy as i trailed in 5th. Well done to Robert on his Drive and thanks for the battle. Great fun. Also well done to Cookie for fighting back after our tap at Parabolica.

All UKGPL needs now is a urine sample from Gareth do determine how 'half cut' he was driving at 160+ mph in Italy, unless he's passed out at the back of the pits? Surely GPL is difficult enough!!   Wink
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2014, 12:54:37 AM +0000 »

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Had a good race with Cookie for the lead, but had to brake on the inside for Parabolica which i'm never too good at and as we both struggled to get the power down our front wheels touched. No harm done, though Cookie lost a couple of seconds.

Was a 50:50 imo, I heard you earlier braking/lifting and cut in a little too much  Wink
The server replay shows only a little contact of our rear tyres when your back stepped out Roll Eyes

I couldn't resist and watched the whole replay Grin
Perfect and allways fair driving from all participants!!!

Shame that Ronnie was lost in T1 Sad
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2014, 02:32:19 AM +0000 »

...Perfect and allways fair driving from all participants!!!...

Almost... there were a couple of very near misses from people not checking their blind spot before moving across track (chasing a draft, usually).

I need a new race chair. My butt went to sleep with a couple of laps to go, podium or even a win was possible until that, but controlling these things at that pace with numb legs...  Sad

Grats to podium, and thanks for a fun one!
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2014, 08:36:57 AM +0000 »

Doh!!!! looks like I missed out on some fantastic 65 racing with you guys   Angry

But just so that you all feel guilty , I got lost in a pile of catch up moderating for the Friday races and totally missed the time ticking past until about 9:45.....too late  Undecided

My chosen BRM might have been a good choice for Monza, but only if it got onto the grid!!!  ah well always next time.  dots
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2014, 12:30:59 PM +0000 »

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Doh!!!! looks like I missed out on some fantastic 65 racing with you guys  Angry

Yes, you really did...

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2014, 12:54:10 PM +0000 »


All UKGPL needs now is a urine sample from Gareth do determine how 'half cut' he was driving at 160+ mph in Italy, unless he's passed out at the back of the pits? Surely GPL is difficult enough!!   Wink
Im not doing myself any favours ATM is should Practice Intensly and Stay Sober.  Wink
looks like that was a great battle for the poduim order. Grats.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2014, 01:05:40 PM +0000 »

Just a sneak in Parabolica  Grin




That was too close Roll Eyes

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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2014, 04:41:46 PM +0000 »

Avoided the turn 1 crash but Gareth passed me but I had to back off at Lesmo1 as he was all over the place. He did it again at Parabolica & I made the fatal error of being mesmerised watching him I went off. Embarrassed Resumed in last place but after a few laps caught the Doni/Arf battle & passed them both. They weren't finished, oh No!. Roll Eyes We swopped places a bit. Funny I mentioned to Clutch after the race I had to admire Arf's outside line at Curva Grande but it was his pass on the inside at Lesmo2 that at the time made me say out loud "you must be joking". Saw him coming, gave him room felt sure he would crash but he didn't. Huh
This was the best part of the race but Doni's Honda has the aerodynamics of a brick so he would zoom up in the tow, pull out, but couldn't make the pass. Still we all gave each other room it was good but I think realistically we were slower than if we had run round line astern behind Arf maybe we just might have made progress to the group in front but you can't do that when someone s trying to pass you all the time. I didn't want to be last in line in case Arf left Doni. Just after half way as Arf looked as though he was leaving us  I spun out giving a gap of 9 seconds to Doni. With 4 laps to go I caught & passed him but Arf was 8 seconds up the road & cruising.
Anyway well done to the podium & especially my team mate Clutch for his first points of the season. Leading at one point apparantly. Must diary that. Grin
I enjoyed it so on to the next one.

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2014, 06:18:37 PM +0000 »

Shame that Ronnie was lost in T1 Sad

I have to agree having seen your pics and the results.

An unfortunate coming together with Uli saw my race ended but these things can happen and I was glad to see him up and running and even going on to a tightly fought victory.

Grats to the podium of Uli, Axl and Tristan.
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