UKPnG Season 9 GT Challenge - Charade - Apr 3

[phspok]

Results and Replay POste3d

Was a good race, I lost the back end a couple of times, but then had fun chasing people
spent some time slowly catching and then passing E-Clive, was chasing a couple of others
when they left.

We seem to be having regular contact these days, anyone can make an error and tap someone into a spin
but it seems to be becoming a regular thing. Please can we try to be a little less aggressive when
close to people, particularly braking into corners. Also... traditionally we don't discuss who's fault it is in the forum
that's what the incident report system is for. Saying sorry etc is fine, but try to avoid pointing fingers please.  

It is often the case that people put in incident reports with "I was the victim but I want no action to be taken"
just so people will get a polite warning from the moderators. Putting in an incident report is not just about having someone
flogged in public, it's as much " There was an incident, but it's ok"

[Clive Loynes]

Results and Replay POste3d

Is this some new technology that I have to come to terms with?

I agree that there is too much contact and also that it is very difficult, sometimes, to have a correct view of what has transpired until you look at the replay. 

In GPL, where the "crash engine" has teeth, they have to adhere to a strict code of practice with regards to sharing a corner and also at the start, when it is difficult to know where everyone has got to.  PnG is less critical on contact but that doesn't mean that the same rules should not apply, namely staying in "lanes" until you know that you have the full width of the circuit to play with.

[EvilClive]

I have no axe to grind here about contacts ( mainly because I am never remotely close enough to another car to worry about it!!!!   )  but it has taken me a while to get used to how close cars are when they pass me . I have had ample opportunity to witness this you will have noticed.

As Clive L says, in GPL there would have been suspension, wheels and body parts scattered over a large area if the same close proximity passing took place. Maybe that is why I flinch each time I am passed and maybe why I try and leave so much tarmac for cars that are lapping me, even to the extent of getting onto the grass.

That said, I am certainly aware that there seems to be a lot of paint samples being exchanged in the opening lap, and certainly in the first few corners, as cars jockey for position up front. I guess it is because the contact detection in PnG does not have the explosive result that it does in GPL that drivers are maybe less concerned about the risk.
Whether or not this is "realistic" is open to personal preference, but I do like the forgiving and sportsmanlike attitude to "incidents" on the forum, where drivers ( thus far at least   ) treat PnG as a game for enjoyment and not a life or death confrontation.  .............maybe I have this wrong and I should perhaps get more aggressive ??  

[phspok]

You are quite right CLive, this is for fun, and I encourage people to be tolerant of others mistakes, and little paint is exchanged in real life
saloon car racing, so it is the same here. I don't want to start a witch hunt, my request is simply to be a little more cautious particularly
in the opening laps. If someone you believe is slower than you makes a kamikaze pass and gets away with it, if you are any
good you will get past him again soon enough. 

[EvilClive]

aaaah! now there's a thought..."if you are any good you will get past him soon enough"