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March 28, 2014, 10:13:40 PM +0000 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Friday Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Jones
 
Cooper T84 GPL F2 1 1:24.098
105.307mph
1 19:47.598
104.400mph
14 1:24.052
105.365mph
Dunlop  
GregT
 
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 2 +0.426
104.776mph
2 +0.269
104.377mph
14 1:24.305
105.048mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 4 +0.950
104.131mph
3 +9.114
103.605mph
14 1:24.769
104.473mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 3 +0.600
104.561mph
4 +9.575
103.565mph
14 1:24.342
105.002mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 5 +1.364
103.626mph
5 +24.647
102.278mph
14 1:25.127
104.034mph
Dunlop  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 7 +1.568
103.379mph
6 +32.946
101.582mph
14 1:25.074
104.099mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 11 +1.924
102.952mph
7 +33.072
101.572mph
14 1:24.944
104.258mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 13 +2.404
102.380mph
8 +35.766
101.348mph
14 1:24.878
104.339mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 6 +1.522
103.435mph
9 +45.779
100.525mph
14 1:24.292
105.065mph
Dunlop  
AndyL
 
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 10 +1.923
102.953mph
10 +49.335
100.236mph
14 1:25.825
103.188mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS5 GPL F2 12 +1.976
102.889mph
11 +51.960
100.024mph
14 1:25.274
103.855mph
Dunlop  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 14 +3.306
101.324mph
12 +57.107
99.610mph
14 1:25.258
103.874mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Cooper T84 GPL F2 9 +1.821
103.075mph
13 +3L
102.542mph
11 1:24.042
105.377mph
Disco
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS7 GPL F2 8 +1.817
103.080mph
14 +5L
88.087mph
9 1:25.937
103.053mph
Disco
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 16 15 +13L
59.239mph
1 2:23.994
61.503mph
Disco
Firestone  
UKGPL 8
 
McLaren M4A GPL F2 15 16 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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March 28, 2014, 11:08:38 PM +0000 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Jones
 
Lotus 63 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +1.028
110.578mph
1 24:23.845
108.900mph
18 1:20.138
110.512mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 63 (DFV) F1 1969 4 +1.250
110.273mph
2 +3.043
108.674mph
18 1:20.147
110.500mph
Firestone  
GregT
 
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 5 +1.295
110.211mph
3 +16.305
107.700mph
18 1:20.622
109.849mph
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 2 1:19.062
112.016mph
4 +18.227
107.560mph
18 1:18.744
112.469mph
Firestone  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 8 +2.162
109.035mph
5 +28.552
106.816mph
18 1:19.982
110.728mph
Dunlop  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 14 +6.326
103.718mph
6 +38.572
106.104mph
18 1:20.930
109.431mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 9 +2.627
108.414mph
7 +45.052
105.648mph
18 1:21.729
108.361mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 12 +4.003
106.618mph
8 +1:04.692
104.291mph
18 1:21.547
108.603mph
Goodyear  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle AAR101 F1 1969 13 +6.238
103.825mph
9 +1L
101.791mph
17 1:25.032
104.152mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 11 +3.601
107.137mph
10 +3.915
101.522mph
17 1:21.045
109.275mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 63 (DFV) F1 1969 7 +1.967
109.297mph
11 +2L
103.661mph
16 1:21.279
108.961mph
suspension
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle AAR101 F1 1969 15 +8.519
101.120mph
12 +1:35.722
96.877mph
16 1:27.888
100.767mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Lotus 63 (DFV) F1 1969 6 +1.486
109.950mph
13 +8L
106.620mph
10 1:20.464
110.065mph
Disco
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T86b F1 1969 17 +19.874
89.515mph
14 +12L
87.693mph
6 1:28.111
100.512mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49 (1969) F1 1969 10 +3.175
107.692mph
15 +17L
98.658mph
1 1:26.245
102.687mph
Disco
Firestone  
AndyL
 
Eagle AAR101 F1 1969 16 +8.697
100.915mph
16 +16.219
83.560mph
1 1:32.835
95.398mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Eagle AAR101 F1 1969 18 20 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 ---
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Firestone  

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« on: March 26, 2014, 06:33:42 PM +0000 »

The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham.  The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx.  Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance.  At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow.  More like something you would find in a GPL race than a real F1 event!

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 08:21:35 PM +0000 »

a Paul Simon tune springs to mind.  punk

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014, 09:19:31 PM +0000 »

Can't very well miss my 'home' race.  I'm in!  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 02:47:19 PM +0000 »

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The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham.  The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx.  Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance.  At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow.  


As far as I remember (it happened 45 years ago !!), Jackie Stewart crashed after a collision with the leader Jacky Ickx.
 
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 03:18:31 PM +0000 »

The incident you recall, Dave, was in the 1969 event.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 07:12:50 PM +0000 »

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The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham.  The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx.  Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance.  At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow.  


As far as I remember (it happened 45 years ago !!), Jackie Stewart crashed after a collision with the leader Jacky Ickx.
 

I think you are right Dave, however, I think he tangled with Pease two times before that, causing him to fall back behind Ickx.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 02:15:10 PM +0000 »

I've done some practice. The BT14 is hard to set up, it's like a dinky toy, so light and powerless none of the settings really do anything :p . But I've found that decreasing the rollbar does have a profound effect on the handling, I like a slightly oversteery car so decreased that quite a lot untill I got the desired result.

Then I tried the Eagle for the 1969 race. It was really easy to set up, but I had a hard time eclipsing my own BT14 time! In the end I was two tenths faster :p . So that means I'm going to be in excess of 10 seconds slower. Per lap Grin . So I probably will get lapped at least one time.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2014, 03:01:20 PM +0000 »

Then I tried the Eagle for the 1969 race. It was really easy to set up, but I had a hard time eclipsing my own BT14 time! In the end I was two tenths faster :p . So that means I'm going to be in excess of 10 seconds slower. Per lap Grin . So I probably will get lapped at least one time.

Hope so  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2014, 08:03:33 PM +0000 »

Here's a little piece that I posted elsewhere many years ago, chaps.  Give it a read and I hope that you enjoy.  It was a special day as I and some buddies took in the Canadian GP at Mosport in 1969.

"It was a typically crisp, cool autumn morning for Ontario.  The leaves were turning from their soft green summer-time hue to every shade of the rainbow.  Clear skies greeted Nick, Mike, Jimmy and I as we'd gotten up quite early to get to Mosport for the 1969 running of the Grand Prix.  We wanted to get right down to the fence line at the hairpin at Moss'and did so, planting our lawn chairs at a prime spot to see the cars come down the chute from turn four and roll into the hairpin.  We hadn't made it to the practice or qualifying rounds so this would be our first taste of seeing winged F1 cars.  I don't recall if there was any prelim heats for sports or touring cars that day...it was so very long ago...but I'm kind of thinking no, the morning started very early on with a warmup for the F1 cars.  As we four waited patiently along with hundreds more and more ever gathering at this traditional spot, we finally heard a motor spin to life up in the paddock.  That's a good km away but on a morning like this, it was easy to pick up.  It wasn't long before we heard a car acclerating away from the pits.  Sounds like a Cossie.  We can follow its progress...down through T1, up the hill into T2 and down again as it rolls into T3.  Coming off T3, it's apparent that whomever this is, he's clearly on it as we can hear the engine note rise sharply.  Only a moment to wait now and we'll see whom it is.

Ah, the car crests the top of T4 and rolls down into the chute.  It's Jo Siffert in the lovely deep blue Rob Walker Lotus 49B.  But wait!  Something is terribly, terribly wrong!  The car's tail is cocked out at seven or eight or maybe even ten degrees to the right and as we can look down into the cockpit from our vantage point, we can clearly see that Jo has full opposite lock applied.  He hasn't even lifted the throttle one bit as we can still hear the DFV howling.  This car is utterly out of control and is travelling at a speed that is easily approaching 400 mph and in a heartbeat, it's now COMING STRAIGHT AT US!!!  As if one mind, the four of us surge forward in our lawn chairs in a panic and grab hold of the fence.  WHAT TO DO?!?!  JUMP LEFT???  JUMP RIGHT???  HIT THE DECK???  The Lotus is clearly going to sail up the hill into the hairpin and at the velocity it's travelling, is going to sail straight on over the berm and plow through us like a sythe through wheat.  Those front canards are going shred us to ribbons!  But it's too late.  He's on top of us!  We're done!  Out of nowhere, the impossible.  We hear Jo smash down through the gears and at what could only be described as beyond the last possible moment, flings the car to the right and tracks the car on opposite lock through the first part of the hairpin.  We're in shock as the Lotus pulls grip out of thin air and Jo slides the car round the tight exit of the Moss' and hammers the throttle to go up the straight.

The four of us all turn at each to each other in utter amazement.  Faces are ashen and jaws slack.  There's giggles from each of us...that giggle of releif that you get when you know that you just faced certain death and somehow managed to come through it alive by some fluke, by some act of grace alone.  I think that all of said in a long drawn out tone, 'FFFFFUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK!!!'  We settle down back into our chairs, nerves still jangling.  Of all the hundreds of races I've attended since Mosport opened in 1961, this is my fondest memory.

Merci, Jo."

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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2014, 10:22:03 PM +0000 »

Slow-ass car? Blue flags because you're a lap down already? Whatever.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2014, 10:50:10 PM +0000 »

Remarkably, I didn't get hit from behind even though I was driving the Eagle, but rather hit someone else! Apologies to Bernie and Paul!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2014, 11:11:05 PM +0000 »

That was intense! The F2 race was a lot of fun. I gave Mark a good race. The 69x race was wild. I worried I'd lose it early on cold tires. Axel had some trouble, can't remember what because my mind is in a daze, and I was able to get by. It took everything I had to keep the car on the track for the next lap with Axel on my tail. I was sliding all over the place. Once I got a little heat in the tires I was able to drive consistently and opened a little gap on Axel. I tried very hard to gain on Mark but we seemed to be about even. I was hoping I'd get on his tail exiting the hairpin. His heavy car wouldn't have been able to hold me off down the straight. That situation never occurred since he spun in turn 2. I couldn't decide which way to try to go around him. I went outside and spun myself. I should have tried to stick the car on the inside. It would have been difficult for him or Axel to catch me if I had gotten by then. I lost my rhythm after the spin and struggled to the end just barely holding off Martin.

It was a lot of fun guys and I'm glad I'm starting to get adjusted to driving the 166 and 49. My lack of experience with them has made me somewhat dangerous with them but today I didn't seem to cause anybody else any trouble because of mistakes.

Congratulations Mark and Axel! You guys are hard to beat!
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2014, 12:10:27 AM +0000 »

Axel had some trouble, can't remember what because my mind is in a daze, and I was able to get by.

Yeah, I was rocking my rig so much in the race that it moved forward and my wheel moved under the desk plate 
until I could not bring my fingers behind the paddles Shocked I solved it on the straight by pushing me backwards and succeeded Grin

The F2 was a phantastic battle with David for 8-10 laps in a distance of under 10m but he defended great and I could not pass him thumbup2

The 69x was very balanced in speed and if not my problems I would have fought better.
Great pace of Greg in the 49 profiting of the superior top speed on the straight, (damn I brought you on the idea of using the front wing...)
Mark was just too fast again  Cool

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2014, 12:31:43 AM +0000 »

Remarkably, I didn't get hit from behind even though I was driving the Eagle, but rather hit someone else! Apologies to Bernie and Paul!!

No problem Tommie - you got me twice! lol.

Pull a shade over the F2 - couldn't keep the car in a straight line... not sure why. Bailed. So 69X...

I got bogged down off the line and Fran made a beeline for me - not sure if he got me first or Tommie but they had nowhere to go. That was just unfortunate. Got going and picked up a few places. Had Dean just behind and needed to get a good exit from Moss. Sadly for me I clipped the grass and span but had enough time to get going in front of Iestyn. Couple of laps later clipped the grass again and span at the last... that put me behind Tommie and Bernie. Got past Tom easily enough on the straight... and then caught Bernie on the way down to Moss. Mr Darwin was VERY cautious and I nearly rear ended him... and then Tom obviously felt I should have Wink That was also unfortunate but I think that the excessive lag I was experiencing wouldn't have helped.

Had to reset after that and a few cold tyre spins put me into the clutches of the leaders. Let the first three past and then got back past Greg once he spun. I was up to speed now and held him off without too much trouble. Pity I was a lap down...

Caught Tom with two to go and planned to take him on the last run up the back straight. Thought he would cover the inside.... he didn't and I had to bail out. Finished the race spinning across the line which seemed rather apt.

Apologies to Dave for baulking him at Moss when recovering from our three way tangle. May well have been the damage that cost you a place. Sorry mate.

Enjoyable race though. Hats off to Tommie for taking a chassis with the brakes set on... I enjoy trying to get past you, hope I gave you some laughs at my attempts to get past!
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2014, 12:54:06 AM +0000 »

Things worked out well for me in the end.  Had a bad start in the F2's due to some network issue and was very grateful to not cause a pileup into turn 1.  Managed to work my way back to the lead.  I was a bit unsettled in the Lotus 63, but managed to dodge Axel and take 2nd, which became the lead when Martin spun.  I suspect Greg would've got me eventually with his better speed on the straight, which is why I was pushing hard in the twisty bits.  Too hard, and apologies to Greg for the spin.  Hung on grimly to the end.
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