EvilClive
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« on: March 26, 2014, 06:33:42 PM +0000 » |
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The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham. The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx. Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance. At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow. More like something you would find in a GPL race than a real F1 event! Race List = IGORServer = tba IP address = tba Race date = 28-03-2014 Race Time = race starts at 21:05 UK time Qualifying Time = Between 20 starting no later than 20.45 UK time Track = Papyrus original Variant = F2 and 69x Damage Model = inter Race length = 20 minutes (laps F2 14 69x 16 ) Password: see above Heavies Lights F2's Free Choice Ferrari, Bt14 and Cooper 69x Free Choice Lot49, Lot 63, BT20, BT24, Cooper T86B, Eagle AAR101 Red zone to the exit of Moss on Lap 1
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 08:21:35 PM +0000 » |
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a Paul Simon tune springs to mind.
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« Last Edit: March 26, 2014, 08:28:14 PM +0000 by Gareth »
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014, 09:19:31 PM +0000 » |
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Can't very well miss my 'home' race. I'm in!
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 02:47:19 PM +0000 » |
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The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham. The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx. Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance. At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow.
As far as I remember (it happened 45 years ago !!), Jackie Stewart crashed after a collision with the leader Jacky Ickx.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 03:18:31 PM +0000 » |
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The incident you recall, Dave, was in the 1969 event.
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Tom van Ostade
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 07:12:50 PM +0000 » |
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The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham. The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx. Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance. At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow.
As far as I remember (it happened 45 years ago !!), Jackie Stewart crashed after a collision with the leader Jacky Ickx. I think you are right Dave, however, I think he tangled with Pease two times before that, causing him to fall back behind Ickx.
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Tom van Ostade
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 02:15:10 PM +0000 » |
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I've done some practice. The BT14 is hard to set up, it's like a dinky toy, so light and powerless none of the settings really do anything :p . But I've found that decreasing the rollbar does have a profound effect on the handling, I like a slightly oversteery car so decreased that quite a lot untill I got the desired result. Then I tried the Eagle for the 1969 race. It was really easy to set up, but I had a hard time eclipsing my own BT14 time! In the end I was two tenths faster :p . So that means I'm going to be in excess of 10 seconds slower. Per lap . So I probably will get lapped at least one time.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2014, 03:01:20 PM +0000 » |
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Then I tried the Eagle for the 1969 race. It was really easy to set up, but I had a hard time eclipsing my own BT14 time! In the end I was two tenths faster :p . So that means I'm going to be in excess of 10 seconds slower. Per lap . So I probably will get lapped at least one time. Hope so
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2014, 08:03:33 PM +0000 » |
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Here's a little piece that I posted elsewhere many years ago, chaps. Give it a read and I hope that you enjoy. It was a special day as I and some buddies took in the Canadian GP at Mosport in 1969.
"It was a typically crisp, cool autumn morning for Ontario. The leaves were turning from their soft green summer-time hue to every shade of the rainbow. Clear skies greeted Nick, Mike, Jimmy and I as we'd gotten up quite early to get to Mosport for the 1969 running of the Grand Prix. We wanted to get right down to the fence line at the hairpin at Moss'and did so, planting our lawn chairs at a prime spot to see the cars come down the chute from turn four and roll into the hairpin. We hadn't made it to the practice or qualifying rounds so this would be our first taste of seeing winged F1 cars. I don't recall if there was any prelim heats for sports or touring cars that day...it was so very long ago...but I'm kind of thinking no, the morning started very early on with a warmup for the F1 cars. As we four waited patiently along with hundreds more and more ever gathering at this traditional spot, we finally heard a motor spin to life up in the paddock. That's a good km away but on a morning like this, it was easy to pick up. It wasn't long before we heard a car acclerating away from the pits. Sounds like a Cossie. We can follow its progress...down through T1, up the hill into T2 and down again as it rolls into T3. Coming off T3, it's apparent that whomever this is, he's clearly on it as we can hear the engine note rise sharply. Only a moment to wait now and we'll see whom it is.
Ah, the car crests the top of T4 and rolls down into the chute. It's Jo Siffert in the lovely deep blue Rob Walker Lotus 49B. But wait! Something is terribly, terribly wrong! The car's tail is cocked out at seven or eight or maybe even ten degrees to the right and as we can look down into the cockpit from our vantage point, we can clearly see that Jo has full opposite lock applied. He hasn't even lifted the throttle one bit as we can still hear the DFV howling. This car is utterly out of control and is travelling at a speed that is easily approaching 400 mph and in a heartbeat, it's now COMING STRAIGHT AT US!!! As if one mind, the four of us surge forward in our lawn chairs in a panic and grab hold of the fence. WHAT TO DO?!?! JUMP LEFT??? JUMP RIGHT??? HIT THE DECK??? The Lotus is clearly going to sail up the hill into the hairpin and at the velocity it's travelling, is going to sail straight on over the berm and plow through us like a sythe through wheat. Those front canards are going shred us to ribbons! But it's too late. He's on top of us! We're done! Out of nowhere, the impossible. We hear Jo smash down through the gears and at what could only be described as beyond the last possible moment, flings the car to the right and tracks the car on opposite lock through the first part of the hairpin. We're in shock as the Lotus pulls grip out of thin air and Jo slides the car round the tight exit of the Moss' and hammers the throttle to go up the straight.
The four of us all turn at each to each other in utter amazement. Faces are ashen and jaws slack. There's giggles from each of us...that giggle of releif that you get when you know that you just faced certain death and somehow managed to come through it alive by some fluke, by some act of grace alone. I think that all of said in a long drawn out tone, 'FFFFFUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK!!!' We settle down back into our chairs, nerves still jangling. Of all the hundreds of races I've attended since Mosport opened in 1961, this is my fondest memory.
Merci, Jo."
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2014, 10:22:03 PM +0000 » |
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Slow-ass car? Blue flags because you're a lap down already? Whatever.
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Tom van Ostade
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2014, 10:50:10 PM +0000 » |
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Remarkably, I didn't get hit from behind even though I was driving the Eagle, but rather hit someone else! Apologies to Bernie and Paul!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2014, 11:11:05 PM +0000 » |
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That was intense! The F2 race was a lot of fun. I gave Mark a good race. The 69x race was wild. I worried I'd lose it early on cold tires. Axel had some trouble, can't remember what because my mind is in a daze, and I was able to get by. It took everything I had to keep the car on the track for the next lap with Axel on my tail. I was sliding all over the place. Once I got a little heat in the tires I was able to drive consistently and opened a little gap on Axel. I tried very hard to gain on Mark but we seemed to be about even. I was hoping I'd get on his tail exiting the hairpin. His heavy car wouldn't have been able to hold me off down the straight. That situation never occurred since he spun in turn 2. I couldn't decide which way to try to go around him. I went outside and spun myself. I should have tried to stick the car on the inside. It would have been difficult for him or Axel to catch me if I had gotten by then. I lost my rhythm after the spin and struggled to the end just barely holding off Martin.
It was a lot of fun guys and I'm glad I'm starting to get adjusted to driving the 166 and 49. My lack of experience with them has made me somewhat dangerous with them but today I didn't seem to cause anybody else any trouble because of mistakes.
Congratulations Mark and Axel! You guys are hard to beat!
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2014, 12:10:27 AM +0000 » |
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Axel had some trouble, can't remember what because my mind is in a daze, and I was able to get by.
Yeah, I was rocking my rig so much in the race that it moved forward and my wheel moved under the desk plate until I could not bring my fingers behind the paddles I solved it on the straight by pushing me backwards and succeeded The F2 was a phantastic battle with David for 8-10 laps in a distance of under 10m but he defended great and I could not pass him The 69x was very balanced in speed and if not my problems I would have fought better. Great pace of Greg in the 49 profiting of the superior top speed on the straight, (damn I brought you on the idea of using the front wing...) Mark was just too fast again Hope to be more competitive in GTs and CA next week
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2014, 12:31:43 AM +0000 » |
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Remarkably, I didn't get hit from behind even though I was driving the Eagle, but rather hit someone else! Apologies to Bernie and Paul!!
No problem Tommie - you got me twice! lol. Pull a shade over the F2 - couldn't keep the car in a straight line... not sure why. Bailed. So 69X... I got bogged down off the line and Fran made a beeline for me - not sure if he got me first or Tommie but they had nowhere to go. That was just unfortunate. Got going and picked up a few places. Had Dean just behind and needed to get a good exit from Moss. Sadly for me I clipped the grass and span but had enough time to get going in front of Iestyn. Couple of laps later clipped the grass again and span at the last... that put me behind Tommie and Bernie. Got past Tom easily enough on the straight... and then caught Bernie on the way down to Moss. Mr Darwin was VERY cautious and I nearly rear ended him... and then Tom obviously felt I should have That was also unfortunate but I think that the excessive lag I was experiencing wouldn't have helped. Had to reset after that and a few cold tyre spins put me into the clutches of the leaders. Let the first three past and then got back past Greg once he spun. I was up to speed now and held him off without too much trouble. Pity I was a lap down... Caught Tom with two to go and planned to take him on the last run up the back straight. Thought he would cover the inside.... he didn't and I had to bail out. Finished the race spinning across the line which seemed rather apt. Apologies to Dave for baulking him at Moss when recovering from our three way tangle. May well have been the damage that cost you a place. Sorry mate. Enjoyable race though. Hats off to Tommie for taking a chassis with the brakes set on... I enjoy trying to get past you, hope I gave you some laughs at my attempts to get past!
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2014, 12:54:06 AM +0000 » |
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Things worked out well for me in the end. Had a bad start in the F2's due to some network issue and was very grateful to not cause a pileup into turn 1. Managed to work my way back to the lead. I was a bit unsettled in the Lotus 63, but managed to dodge Axel and take 2nd, which became the lead when Martin spun. I suspect Greg would've got me eventually with his better speed on the straight, which is why I was pushing hard in the twisty bits. Too hard, and apologies to Greg for the spin. Hung on grimly to the end.
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