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August 05, 2014, 09:37:34 PM +0100 - Adelaide (1985-95) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Amateurs Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Johnny.P
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 1 1:35.476
88.565mph
1 45:33.976
86.600mph
28 1:35.824
88.243mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.349
88.242mph
2 +16.428
86.083mph
28 1:36.762
87.388mph
Dunlop  
Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 7 +3.169
85.720mph
3 +16.975
86.066mph
28 1:35.802
88.263mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 5 +2.141
86.622mph
4 +52.650
84.964mph
28 1:36.904
87.260mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +1.689
87.025mph
5 +1:09.906
84.441mph
28 1:36.303
87.804mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +2.180
86.588mph
6 +1:08.658
84.479mph
28 1:37.242
86.956mph
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +4.824
84.305mph
7 +1L
82.403mph
27 1:39.305
85.150mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +6.219
83.149mph
8 +54.891
80.802mph
27 1:39.635
84.868mph
Goodyear  
Boggy
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +8.011
81.709mph
9 +19L
75.512mph
9 1:40.878
83.822mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Kai J.Daum
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 3 +1.222
87.446mph
10 +21L
83.654mph
7 1:37.812
86.450mph
Disco
Dunlop  
UKGPL 3
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 11 11 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

No incident during red zone and no reported incident except one shift-R during last lap and one incorrect shift-R.

Good job !


Server replay time: 0h14m22s

Billy lost a wheel and joined the pits where he did the shift-R.
The rule is to do the shift-R and then join the pits for the stop'n'go.

In this case, Billy did not really take an advantage.
I will penalize him with only 5 seconds so he will better remember the rule for next races ;)

  • Billy Nobrakeswarning — Incorrect Stop and Go — 5.000 seconds added


Server replay time: 45h42m00s

Dave Curtis did a shift-R on last lap.
The rule indicates a 15 sec penalty in such a case.

Maybe he could have stop in the pits just before the cross the finish line ?!

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:35.476
88.565mph
Johnny.P
Qualifying
BRM P261 (1965)August 05, 2014, 09:37:34 PM +0100
S27Am
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:35.802
88.263mph
Walter Conn
Race
BRM P261 (1965)August 05, 2014, 09:37:34 PM +0100
S27Am
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« on: August 02, 2014, 08:54:43 AM +0100 »

Season 27 Amateurs Trophy - Round 2 - Adelaide

Welcome to the Season 27 Amateurs Trophy.

Second round of the Season 27 championship for the Amateurs will be in Adelaide (Australia).

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under INT rules and only one reset is allowed.


Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Tuesday 05-08-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track
Race length = 28 laps
Variant = 1965
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = minimum of 30 minutes

Password see above
Replay will be here

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

The red zone will be fully moderated for the full lap 1 only.
 Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.

Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 11:39:40 PM +0100 »

Fun track, I enjoy it much better now than when I first joined UKGPL in season 25 (http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11828.0 ). I had such a hard time with the track that I postponed my UKGPL debut until the next race (Monaco).  

Congrats John P. and Rog! I surpassed my humble expectations today by finishing third. I joined the qualifying round with 8 minutes left, and I mostly wanted to get into a rhythm before the race. I started near the back, and the race looked fair and clean from my vantage point. I was very happy with the way that my BRM was going through the corners. I only over-rotated once. I caught up with Rog with a few laps left in the race, and he drove solid under pressure. I was only able to make one overtake attempt into the hairpin, but I did not want to leave my braking too late while on the inside line. Good race, I could not ask for a better group of people to race against.

-WC

    
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 09:13:53 AM +0100 »

I was away yesterday, so sad to miss it. I will import the result tonight but the replay is up.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 10:09:38 AM +0100 »

Couldn't get to grips with this track at all , far too micky mouse for me , I got eye stagma after a short while and felt dizzy , too many corners , most look the same , could't tell one from another   Huh

Apart from that my race was so dull I could have brought a book with me to read , only excitement was being lapped  Roll Eyes

Grats to the podium boys
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 08:48:36 PM +0100 »

Hi
Yesterday  was my First Race in the UKGPL. I only raced 7 Rounds but I had Fun and the Drivers are very fair and recpectful. Congradulation to the winner also to the 2nd and the 3rd. Now in the next Four Weeks i train  very hard and I hope in the next Race I finished after the full distance. I think it is the green hell from the N├╝rburgring. So it is very very difficult.

P.S. I started as Josh64, but I changed my Name to Kai J.Daum65.

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 08:59:46 PM +0100 »

I did a lot behind the scenes for this race, it took quite a lot of offline practice to get the car to drive well. I had difficulty stopping in a straight line and cookie kindly gave me a baseline setup that was far better than mine but still far too nervous for me, It eventually came good with soft rear rebound and dampers. I used my game pad for this one too as try as I might I cannot get to grips with wheel and peddles but I'll keep trying.

The race was fairly steady once I had got away, I had 2 spins on one lap but a good run other than that. This circuit is much harder than it looks as the car seems to wander a lot and its all too easy to enter a turn rear end first. Well done to Rog in the BT7 for keeping Walter at bay- a great effort and also to Walter for fastest lap- I thought I might have got that.... Thanks all see you next time.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 09:23:05 PM +0100 »

After Reims now I'm back to my standard...
Grats to everybody raced.
I will miss next one unfortunately.
See you all soon
Cheers

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 11:12:41 PM +0100 »

Hi
Yesterday  was my First Race in the UKGPL. I only raced 7 Rounds but I had Fun and the Drivers are very fair and recpectful. Congradulation to the winner also to the 2nd and the 3rd. Now in the next Four Weeks i train  very hard and I hope in the next Race I finished after the full distance. I think it is the green hell from the N├╝rburgring. So it is very very difficult.

Best regards
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In this series you can take one Reset [Shift R] followed by a compulsory STOP & GO.
Good to have you along. We have a great league - competitive & fair.
Next race will be your home Grand Prix & will take lots of practice for all of us.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2014, 03:29:22 AM +0100 »

...This circuit is much harder than it looks...

That's still true for the pros. There are a lot of hidden bumps (especially Stag corner, that I can never take quickly, comfortably, so I'm always too slow, just safe, as long as I stayed off the curbs), true reflection of a street track (a crappy one imo Tongue).

Your observations that Cookie's setup seemed "nervous" and the car wanders a lot: fast race cars will almost always feel that way. They are not designed or set up to be stable, where street cars are. You might try lowering the amount of toe-out (front) and toe-in (rear)  (this will cost quick turn-in and maybe some mid-corner "bite", but should be more stable), along with softening the springs/dampers/bars, until you're more comfortable.

As always, try the changes one at a time so you have an idea what each change feels like. Change multiple things at once, and you won't know which change made the car feel better or worse.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 09:52:08 AM +0100 »

Hi
Yesterday  was my First Race in the UKGPL. I only raced 7 Rounds but I had Fun and the Drivers are very fair and recpectful. Congradulation to the winner also to the 2nd and the 3rd. Now in the next Four Weeks i train  very hard and I hope in the next Race I finished after the full distance. I think it is the green hell from the N├╝rburgring. So it is very very difficult.

Best regards
Kai,
In this series you can take one Reset [Shift R] followed by a compulsory STOP & GO.
Good to have you along. We have a great league - competitive & fair.
Next race will be your home Grand Prix & will take lots of practice for all of us.

Fixed that for you mate !
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 04:52:43 PM +0100 »

Grats to JP on win.
Have raced here before and hated it, but this time enjoyed race, prob because of car setup, used Hristo race setup as base and it worked well, the BRM did slightly faster lap time for me in praccy but had more offs so decided to go with the BT7. Tried to keep up with JP but that was not to be he kept extending his lead, latter part of race had some good racing with Walter who caught me, a few more laps and you prob would have passed, see you all at Nurburgring.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2014, 04:04:20 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2014, 05:17:59 PM +0100 »

Time penalty is fair - but should both Dave C & I get penalty points for an incorrect Stop & Go?
We're getting the team a bad name!
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2014, 05:44:11 PM +0100 »

Thx for your job Dave
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2014, 05:52:00 PM +0100 »

Time penalty is fair - but should both Dave C & I get penalty points for an incorrect Stop & Go?
We're getting the team a bad name!


Eh? 2x penalty points for that?!   I thought this was acceptable behaviour seeing as it was the last lap?
I even submitted a report for that myself;  maybe I should have remained a bit quieter... Wink

Cheers anyway,  good job.

Cheers,
Dave.
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