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  • S2767W Rouen: August 17, 2014
August 17, 2014, 10:38:31 PM +0100 - Rouen (1955-70) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Works Trophy (67)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 1:56.393
125.769mph
1 48:54.781
124.700mph
25 1:55.812
126.400mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.519
125.211mph
2 +29.181
123.472mph
25 1:56.780
125.353mph
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 8 +1.371
124.305mph
3 +38.322
123.093mph
25 1:56.781
125.352mph
Firestone  
AndyL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 5 +0.830
124.879mph
4 +59.652
122.216mph
25 1:58.395
123.643mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 13 +3.301
122.301mph
5 +1:43.053
120.470mph
25 1:59.120
122.890mph
Firestone  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Honda RA300 F1 1967 11 +2.104
123.536mph
6 +1:52.720
120.088mph
25 1:59.624
122.372mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 14 +4.416
121.172mph
7 +1L
119.211mph
24 2:00.943
121.038mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 +3.134
122.472mph
8 +9.771
118.817mph
24 1:59.360
122.643mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 15 +4.748
120.840mph
9 +13.087
118.684mph
24 2:01.168
120.813mph
Firestone  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 9 +1.508
124.161mph
10 +6L
121.177mph
19 1:58.795
123.226mph
unknown
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +1.709
123.949mph
11 +11:24.672
93.336mph
19 2:02.154
119.838mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +0.854
124.853mph
12 +13L
121.525mph
12 1:58.264
123.780mph
Disco
Firestone  
GregT
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 7 +1.119
124.572mph
13 +16L
121.450mph
9 1:58.676
123.350mph
Disco
Firestone  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 17 14 +3.172
121.096mph
9 1:56.943
125.178mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 16 18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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SUMMARY
A very clean race marked by a particularly civilised start. The pole sitter, Robert Fleurke, was relegated to the back of the grid when GPL ignored his lap times. This allowed Tristan to lead the field as the flag dropped and, apart from momentarily loosing the lead to Tim Muttram, Tristan stamped his authority on the race with a convincing win and an impressive fastest lap. Tim continued his career revival with a solid second place. A clean sweep of the podium for Lotus was completed by Jethro Walters who this time managed to convert his usual searing pace into a podium finish rather than a trip to the breakers yard.


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Lap 10 - Turn 1 - Robert Fleurke and Gregory Taber
Gregory catches the kerb on the inside of turn 1 and this throws him into a spin. As he pirouettes along on the grass, Gregory is a passenger and there is little he can do to prevent his car rolling back onto the track just as Robert is approaching. Contact is made and both drivers are out of the race.

In hindsight one can always identify something that could have been done differently which would have prevented the incident. However in the heat of the moment with the adrenaline flowing there was nothing either driver could reasonably be expected to have done to avoid the contact.

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« on: August 10, 2014, 10:59:59 PM +0100 »

Season 27 Works Trophy - Round 2 - Rouen-les-Essarts

Welcome to the well known Circuit Rouen-les-Essart for Round 2 of the Season 27 Works Trophy!

From its opening in 1950, Rouen-Les-Essarts was recognized as one of Europe's finest circuits, with modern pits, a wide track, and spectator grandstands. The circuit (which ran on public roads) had a few medium straights, a cobbled hairpin turn (Nouveau Monde) at the southernmost tip, and a few blind corners through a wooded hillside. The appeal was greatly enhanced by the climb from Nouveau Monde at 56 metres to Gresil at 149 metres.

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Race date = 17-08-2014
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time (21:30 GMT)
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Papyrus
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Pro
Race length = 25 Laps (50 minutes)
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2014, 10:01:35 PM +0100 »

First my 55.2 pole lap doesn't get recognized, after a messy quali. Starting dead last, biding my time losing 4s a lap...drove like a clown at times but still was back up to 7th with chance to salvage a podium. And then when a Honda spins off, I check up, and then he crosses back on the track...nowhere to go for me...

PS: I didn't change my IP, just rejoined, but had an other car number...never had taken away my time like that...what a (bad) joke...
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2014, 10:02:41 PM +0100 »

My apologies Robert. It was too much pressure for me and the Honda. Great fun until until I saw an Eagle get destroyed. Sad
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2014, 10:06:41 PM +0100 »

My apologies Robert. It was too much pressure for me and the Honda. Great fun until until I saw an Eagle get destroyed. Sad

No worries Greg, I'm sure you didn't mean to. Don't feel bad about it. There's always the next race Wink
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2014, 10:44:27 PM +0100 »

You didn't change your helmet colour when you rejoined did you Robert? I know that can cause re-numbering and loss of times. I think there were 3 of you on my Prib by the time the race started!

While I hate to gain places through internet woes I'm kind of glad, Tristan was unstoppable after his lap 2 pirouette at Nouveau Monde so 2nd was the best I could hope for. Thankfully I was ever-so slightly quicker than Jethro so when he appeared behind me at about half distance I managed to keep him at arms length.

I really need to sort my driving rig as having my wheel 10cm or so too high is killing my arms/shoulders in these races! God knows how I'll manage to stay alive at Charade  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2014, 10:51:34 PM +0100 »

You didn't change your helmet colour when you rejoined did you Robert? I know that can cause re-numbering and loss of times. I think there were 3 of you on my Prib by the time the race started!

No, I didn't...just rejoined changed nothing...noticed my car number was changed so I rejoined again...

Cheers Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2014, 11:45:22 PM +0100 »

Afaik, GPL can change your car # (and doesn't associate the "new" you with your "old" times) if anyone else joins the server after you. It can also be a "stealth" reassignment (it assigns you a new # that just happens to be the same # [because when you quit, your previous # goes back into the available pool of #s to give to drivers]). Your second quit/rejoin likewise invalidated your 1m56s lap.

If you had been the last to join, then set your time, and quit/rejoin (without joining in a different car, or changing your helmet colour, etc.) with no one else doing anything, you would have kept pole. Sometimes it does that anyway.

I also saw 3 of you on the provisional grid before the off.

About my race: I jumped out of a Ferrari 312 and into a Ferrari 303 on lap 2 while trying to get past TvO, then did my best to stay out of everyone's way for the remainder. As Prib was showing the number of laps left for the leader, not me, I had no idea how many laps I had actually completed until after the end of the race.

If anyone has a problem with my attempts, or feel I impeded them unfairly in any way, take it up with those who voted for or imposed the 50% rule, because I ain't listening.[/size]
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2014, 01:58:27 AM +0100 »

Congratulations Tristan, Tim, and Jethro! Nice drive.

I apologize again Rob. I had to watch the replay to see exactly how I screwed up. I thought I had made two mistakes but I wasn't sure. I knew I tried to carry too much speed into turn 1 and I downshifted late. When the nose was pointing to the right, I floored it to try to push me out of Jethro's way. That worked half decent. Then I let off the accelerator completely thinking the car would keep slowly going right, away from the track. Then I went brain dead. I didn't think to lock the brakes until I came to a stop. I never would have rolled back into the track like I did and that would have carried my slightly off the right side of the track. That was a real stupid mistake. I'll remember that and try not to do it again. I hate taking you out like that Rob.

You had some real bad luck Rob. I didn't realize you were put to the back of the field. You still had a real good opportunity to get a decent finish had my mistake not ruined it. It would have been tough to catch the Lotuses but I think you could have handled everybody else.

That was a tough race for me. I got a good start and picked up a position from Axel. I may have been able to open a little gap but Andy was slowing me terribly heading towards and through the hairpin. There was no way I could get around him without him making a big mistake. That kept Axel on my tail for a while. I thought about letting him by at one point but I kept hoping Andy would make a mistake. I started worrying the engine is not going to take too much more of this abuse. Next thing Jethro comes up quickly and I start thinking I'm going to have to let him by. I could no longer put any pressure on Andy with Jethro pressuring me. If I let Jethro by, I might have to go ahead and let Axel by too? I had no clue Rob was just behind them. If let Axel by, then I surely would have wanted to let Rob by too. That would have put my in a comfortable 7th with the ability to still pressure Axel and Andy. I had nothing for the Lotuses or Eagle except maybe early, if I could have got by Andy, I may have been able to stay close to Tim until he started running 57's consistently. My indecision killed me. I also couldn't handle the pressure of Lotuses and Ferraris with the Honda. That was too much for me.

Thanks guys.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2014, 11:22:15 AM +0100 »

@ Dean: thanks for explaining. If I don't have to reconnect I won't in the future...I didn't see Tristan on the server, wondered where he was...maybe he couldn't join server and did want to check iGOR chatrooms to see if he was there with probs, me being Works Owner...but when back on the server Tristan was present...oh irony...then other carnumber, set a time and wondered again where my laptime was...rejoined again, another carnumber...no time at all...

@ Greg: watched replay, no worries. Initially I saw you spin of on the right side of the track, Axel checked up, I checked up slightly...but as you were on the right side/grass I chose the left lane and floored it again...in hindsight I should have checked up more, or never have checked up...then I would have missed you...just bad luck...

Also like to say sorry to Arf for my pass in T1, should have been more patient, bad place to make a pass stick. We touched wheels I noticed, that was my bad. Glad you didn't spin off but it did cost you at least some time. Also another attempted pass on Tommie in T2 was bad, but managed to go on the grass in order not to wreck. And outbraking Clive, and myself, and Clive went by again...

Red mist uh?

I was impressed by the disciplined start by the whole field, that was class IMO! We always should make sure we have these sort of starts! Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2014, 12:08:27 PM +0100 »

Hi ....

Rob, sorry to have been late on qualif, but I was finishing a late dinner......and get only 15 mn qualif !....not mutch to be warm enought ......
When I see you conect-disco....connect-disco.....I think you have connect problems .....and in the end Isaw that the pole is for the unknow pilote ??!....well,....and the unknow pilote was not on the grid !?......to bad for the fight :/
....The race was OK , exept a nice ( or 2 ...? ) 360┬░ at the bracking point of the airpin and let the lead to Tim for few laps ....and few little mistakes on the last 3-4 laps ( I have to check the reaplay )...

....for the next one _Charade_ Idon't know if Iwill be able to race 'cause I have a race in the French champ F1LEGENDS....who normaly must be finish at 10h ( french time ).... it still possible, but 2 races in a row is not easy ( for the botom Smiley......so will see what append....

thx all  CU Cool
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2014, 03:58:58 PM +0100 »

Rob, sorry to have been late on qualif, but I was finishing a late dinner......and get only 15 mn qualif !....not mutch to be warm enought ......
When I see you conect-disco....connect-disco.....I think you have connect problems .....and in the end Isaw that the pole is for the unknow pilote ??!....well,....and the unknow pilote was not on the grid !?......to bad for the fight :/

No problem at all Tristan, you can choose when you want to join...it's a a shame once again we were denied a proper fight, and I'm looking for races to fight with you until the end in the future, and that will happen for sure! Smiley

Congrats for the win, and Tim and Jethro for their well deserved podium spots, even though arguably I could have salvaged a podium...Jethro was just in front of Axel, and I was about to get in touch with Axel when I had to retire...

Also well done to the rest of the finishers Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2014, 06:47:44 PM +0100 »

Qualifying was difficult, could not get a clean lap in without a mistake. Race start was excellent (revs just held nicely in 1st to nearly squeeze past someone), then got involved in a nice tussle for 3rd with 4 other cars, until that became two when I got past Axel and Greg gave me a scare at T1... I so nearly t-boned him!

After that, I tried keeping it on the black stuff and trimming the lap time. The gap to Tim stayed mostly constant, some laps increasing, some laps decreasing, then he found a new wind and kept pulling ahead. Tristan was again in a league of his own!

Congrats to all who finished, apologies if we disrupted you in chat. I had clean forgotten to wait for the "session complete" notice and joined in. Mea culpa. Sad
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