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September 16, 2014, 10:36:27 PM +0100 - Pacific Raceways - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
uli
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 1:21.237
99.447mph
1 45:48.464
97.000mph
33 1:21.887
98.658mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.489
97.657mph
2 +2.786
96.902mph
33 1:21.949
98.583mph
Goodyear  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.079
99.351mph
3 +11.817
96.585mph
33 1:21.528
99.092mph
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.074
98.150mph
4 +38.546
95.658mph
33 1:22.498
97.927mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.792
97.301mph
5 +40.524
95.590mph
33 1:22.531
97.888mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +2.125
96.912mph
6 (+1) +1:22.696
94.167mph
33 1:23.766
96.445mph
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +3.830
94.970mph
7 +1L
92.236mph
32 1:25.228
94.791mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +2.671
96.282mph
8 (+1) +9L
95.388mph
24 1:23.176
97.129mph
Disco
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +1.462
97.689mph
9 +12L
94.675mph
21 1:23.051
97.275mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.605
98.712mph
10 (+1) +18L
96.188mph
15 1:22.265
98.205mph
Disco
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 4 +0.925
98.328mph
11 +22L
96.178mph
11 1:22.799
97.571mph
Disco
Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 10 +2.499
96.479mph
12 +25L
91.615mph
8 1:25.299
94.712mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +7.175
91.377mph
13 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
UKGPL 8
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 14 14 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Corner 3A was very troublesome - in fact every incident is 3A. The racing line requires cut hard across the apex at which point the cars are less than 40mph. Following drivers have seen an opportunity to run up the inside, not fully allowing where the leading car will be.


Server replay time: 0h01m19s

Norm has the lead into straight. Dean is a bit quicker, possibly because Norm was little untidy into the previous turn or he was reacting to traffic ahead. Dean has the inside, I'm not sure if this was an attempted overtake as Dean was on the brakes & there is a element of warp here. Norm has the worst of the accident.


Server replay time: 0h02m50s

Next lap - Arf gets a run on Dean & Doni into 3A & ends up making the first pass but not the second. Arf has 2 wheels off track, whilst this does not appear to affect incident he has gone into the corner too fast.


Server replay time: 0h12m41s

Dean & Doni - another contact in 3A. Doni did brake a little early but Dean should have been more cautious. Following cars can't expect everyone to drive like robots having the exact same speed or braking point every lap. We always need to be able to adapt to the speed of the car in front if needed, going into a corner.


Server replay time: 0h16m28s

Cookie & Tristan. Tristan was out of shape & has to correct his entry to 3A. Nevertheless Axel should have been more cautious.
Tristan has asked for no penalty. Where no other driver has been affected this would normally be taken account of but it would seem odd not to penalise the fourth very similar incident.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:21.237
99.805mph
uli
Qualifying
Ferrari 512September 16, 2014, 10:36:27 PM +0100
S27Pro
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:21.528
99.448mph
Robert Fleurke
Race
Brabham BT11 (Climax)September 16, 2014, 10:36:27 PM +0100
S27Pro
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2014, 01:56:26 PM +0100 »

No worries Clive. I admit I was pretty frustrated after the race, but it was more my own driving...

First gave too much room after the start and hit the sand at the kink and lost 3 spots having a tankslapper. Then made an awkward pass on Axel, going wide, he happily noticed me, but Tim went sideways and Jethro couldn't avoid him...I think that was a chain reaction...

Then got stuck behind Tristan who was warping, especially when I got to his bumper, he warped a few times into my car leaving me to check up and I lost out on the exits, as I didn't want to wreck him...then spun, lost about 10s, but got back to Jethro when he had a halfspin. Then got back up to Clive, who made a mistake, we went 2 wide, I thought I gave enough room, but we touched. Racing incident so won't report it... Wink

Got back to Clive again, I was better in the curvy parts but it's so tight you can't make a clean pass without cooperation and Clive just ran very smart. He had better topspeed (I ran too low tirepressures), struggled to get a tow, also he was good out of the last turn. Spun again, and got back to Clive once again, couldn't get a run when he was mirrordiving towards the hairpins, but I'm happy I didn't wreck him. Had to check up a lot, and couldn't run close to him in the fast chicane.

Towards the end I had a run having a tow, but misjudged it as Clive took the outside lane leaving me on the grass...was very frustrated TBH, ofcourse Uli managed his race but I think I should have raced for the win...

Grats Uli and very good job Clive not breaking under the pressure. You ran better the longer the race and you're just a great racer! Well done finishers and commiserations to the retirements..

PS: I hope you can fix your wheel Ray, or get another one Wink
« Last Edit: September 17, 2014, 03:21:56 PM +0100 by Robert Fleurke » Logged

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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2014, 06:07:39 PM +0100 »

Warp factor "whereareya" took hold on L2 as I was behind FMG, and then he got a swap on that I could not avoid.

It wasn't necessarily lag Jethro, Cookie had a bit of a wobble and I had to back off suddenly - In my replay you were unsighted of him so would have had no chance to avoid me anyway.

I started to regain places after rejoining but then my GF came home and spent 10 minutes berating me over the fact a spider had built a web across the garden path  Roll Eyes - All of this during an extended 3 way battle with Doni and Dean (I think).
This resulted in my driving unsurprisingly going to pot as I was then expected to discuss the fitment of locks to a gate and what's in the cinema etc..  death

I never got my concentration back and after several spins exited upside down after messing up the fast chicane section and running up the wall Sad
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2014, 10:33:35 PM +0100 »

Again, the pole has brought the victory!
But it was hard to realize. Robert starts very powerfull - absolutely World-Record in his first run set me under heavy pressure. To improve my personal besttime I needed four efforts until I finally found the scarce tenth! Fantastic practice fight, thanks to you Robert!
But that was already my highlight for this race.
After I won the start, it was very easy to hold the lead because of the hard duels of all my followers.
Congratulations to you Clive and you Robert, fantastic race you both did.
Looking forward in East London
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2014, 10:50:42 PM +0100 »

Thank you Uli, it's always great to have you around, you push and motivate me too Smiley Really good controlled win, I'm sure we will have battles coming races at the front Wink

In hindsight I regret not enjoying the race as much as I should. But now I do  Grin Watched replay and there was some good driving and racing going on. Now I can laugh about it, the mistakes, the contact and pushing like hell.

Thanks guys, it's fun to race in UKGPL Pro Smiley

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2014, 06:33:56 PM +0100 »

Hi Smiley   .....well ....what to said !?...   that I was training on the wrong track before discover my error, but it's not so important "cause the 2 track are very similar .....
.....I take a good start and soon gain 2 places and I was second behind Uli after 12 laps ( the race is still very long....) and as everybody seen , it's realy not so easy to overtake, even when you don't close the doors.......so you need mutch patience even if you think you'r quicker.....and very carefull when you race so close.....      .....and I'm a little bit surprise from you Cookie , you have enought experience to know that it's not possible to overtake in this airpin....  !!... and again , the race was far away to be finish......    ......so after a rear stunt, I finish on the helmet, 4 wheels in the air.......np Cookie :/ .......but I have to report it......hum....you know, I don't like to do sutch thing but ....................it's the lowwwwwwwwwwww of the west !  Wink

cya at East London.......
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2014, 11:23:26 PM +0100 »

Mod report published.
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2014, 08:38:33 PM +0100 »

From the mod report: "Server replay time: 0h01m19s Norm has the lead into straight. Dean is a bit quicker..."

Why are drivers notified about driver reported incidents, so they have a chance to have their side of the story heard, but not red zone incidents?

As this is not a case of being penalized for interfering with a driver who has an unpredictable sloppy (and ends up ending my race later, many thanks for the apology, btw), it's more curiosity than complaint.


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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2014, 11:58:24 PM +0100 »

Dean,
In the reporting system, if your name is ticked as being involved in an incident then you get an automatic notification.
Red zone is fully moderated so if you are involved in a red zone incident & you want to make your views known then please file a report.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2014, 07:46:47 PM +0100 »

Sorry to Doni for lap 9, I was further over than I thought. Contact was my fault.

As for the earlier incidents, I think the mods missed a teaching moment about the value of not moving over into a space you can rightly expect someone else may be occupying. The incidents on lap 1 and 2 are almost identical in set-up. I didn't move over when Arf disappeared from my mirrors (though according to the rules here I would have been justified in doing so), and I didn't get taken out.  angel
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