Quarterly cost: �0
 
nonchalant-unilinear
April 23, 2024, 11:40:56 PM +0100 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
Series
S4455GPP
S4455GPW
S4466CA
S4467F1P
S4467F1W
S4467F2A
S4467F2P
S44JSMT
Recent
S44JSMT Boreham Airfie…
S4455GPP Roy Hesketh (…
S4455GPW Roy Hesketh (…
S4466CA Bathurst
S4467F1W Mont-Tremblant
S4467F1P Mont-Tremblant
S4467F2P Snetterton (L…
S4467F2A Snetterton (L…
Forthcoming
S4455GPP Reims (1954-7…
S4455GPW Reims (1954-7…
S4466CA Michigan
S4467F1P Aintree
S4467F1W Aintree
S4467F2P Sempione (193…
S4467F2A Sempione (193…
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register     LM2 Replays Rules Links Circuits Teams  
Linked Events
  • S2767W Monza: September 28, 2014
September 28, 2014, 10:37:04 PM +0100 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Works Trophy (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 1 1:27.271
147.394mph
2 48:46.109
145.068mph
33 1:27.878
146.376mph
Goodyear  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 5 +0.832
146.002mph
3 +24.872
143.846mph
33 1:28.279
145.711mph
Firestone  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 12 +1.557
144.810mph
4 +42.260
143.003mph
33 1:29.188
144.226mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +1.417
145.039mph
5 +50.357
142.614mph
33 1:28.952
144.608mph
Firestone  
AndyL
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 7 +1.064
145.618mph
6 +59.960
142.155mph
33 1:28.548
145.268mph
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 9 +1.312
145.211mph
7 +1:09.606
141.698mph
33 1:28.744
144.947mph
Firestone  
GregT
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 6 +0.869
145.941mph
8 +1L
143.507mph
32 1:28.229
145.793mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 14 +3.766
141.296mph
9 +1:05.329
140.312mph
32 1:30.424
142.254mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 13 +1.900
144.253mph
10 +15L
84.327mph
18 1:30.375
142.331mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.618
146.357mph
11 +25L
136.362mph
8 1:30.611
141.961mph
Disco
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 8 +1.186
145.418mph
12 +32L
124.281mph
1 1:41.338
126.934mph
Disco
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 3 +0.466
146.611mph
13 +33L
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 11 +1.450
144.985mph
14
---
0 ---
---
accident
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 15 DNS ---
---
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 16 ---
---
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 15 17 ---
---
Goodyear  
MagicArsouille
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.222
147.020mph
Excluded +0L
145.100mph
33 1:27.988
146.193mph
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY
A well deserved win for pole position sitter Robert Fleurke after the man who actually passed the chequered flag first, Tristan Bot, was disqualified for not having enough tokens to pay for his chosen chassis. Tristan's unfortunate mistake also promoted Bob Whitwell and Tommie van Ostade up to second and third place respectively.


Server replay time: 0h01m21s

Lap 1 - Lesmos 1 - Jethro Walters, Axel Cookie, Gregory Taber, Ronnie Peterson, Dean Logan, Andrew Livingston, Doni Yourth and Andreas Gebhardt.

Jethro gets a slow start and is passed by Bob Whitwell and Axel Cookie before Curva Grande. However Jethro fights back and takes a wide line round Della Roggia to position himself to pass Axel on the inside at Lesmos 1. Jethro outbrakes Axel and steals the inside line but Axel doesn't know he is there and he takes the normal racing line. Contact is made and both cars spin. The unfortunate Gregory Taber is following close behind and cannot avoid the carnage. Complete mayhem ensues as the rest of the field try to negotiate a way round the heaps of expensive machinery littering the track.

Axel is leading Jethro into Della Roggia but he loses sight of him in his mirrors as Jethro takes a wide line through the corner. Axel has no idea where Jethro is and consequently he doesn't leave him any room.

Jethro is obviously keen to make up the places he has lost and seizes an opportunity to attempt a pass. He leaves his braking to the latest possible moment but he still managed to keep to the inside line and didn't drift wide.

This wasn't an easy pass to attempt but Jethro managed to slow the car sufficiently to maintain the inside line and secure more than 50% overlap at turn in. However he didn't manage to achieve the 100% overlap necessary to claim the corner outright. Axel wasn't expecting an attack at this corner but he should have been sure there was no car on his inside before taking the racing line. This has to go down as a racing incident (Contested Overtake - Scenario 1) but it could have been avoided if Jethro had been a little more patient and Axel a little more aware. It could be argued that a greater proportion of the blame resides with Jethro as he instigated the attempted pass but it wasn't a reckless attempt, he did achieve a significant overlap and he didn't run wide. Drivers have to be allowed to race and it is not in anyone's interest to penalise drivers in borderline situations such as this. All drivers, not just Jethro and Axel, should learn from this incident and recognise that the only way to race at close quarters is when both drivers are fully aware, don't take unnecessary risks and leave room where appropriate.

  • Racing incident

Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Works Trophy (67) - Monza - Sep 28  (Read 5142 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
FullMetalGasket
Director, AC
SimRacing.org.uk Staff
Hero Member
****
Posts: 4238



View Profile
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2014, 08:45:28 PM +0100 »

I missed this as I was asleep - Hope you lot had fun  whistling

(I won't be going hiking on a race night again!  Grin )
Logged
Doni Yourth
Full Member
***
Posts: 1295


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2014, 08:55:13 PM +0100 »

Yes, apologies to Jethro for that little slap up the side of the head especially as the moderators have yet to rule.  That link was posted half in jest and half in anger.  Still...  I've learned enough over the years to never even begin to contemplate a pass on an equally-talented and equipped rival going into Lesmo1.  A recipe for disaster.

No hard feelings.
Logged
kinghiro
Full Member
***
Posts: 228


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2014, 11:48:17 PM +0100 »

Fun to be back:). I didn t think I would get as much adrenaline as I did. Felt sorry for the unfortunates in lesmo1.That means Evils and mine reaction evens out and cosmos is in balance.
Also sorry for the Token miss. Reminds me when I misunderstood number of laps and never read it in actual race.
I had an awsome race chasing Deans Fezza until some few laps to go when I went hard into curva grande and Gforces made me pull a bit hard on my stick (the gearshifter Wink ) and it ended in second instead of fourth. I should have been able to correct it but a bit of a panicreaction made me loose it and I spun. Luckily  and unrealisticly I was still in one peiece and finished to an ok 6 th , but would have love to at least continue to make Dean sweat for his position.
Logged
Turkey Machine
UKGPL Assistant Divisional Moderator
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 1724

Elitist psychopath with AS.


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2014, 06:15:31 PM +0100 »

Well, I had done no preparation for this race ( nothing too unusual there as I rarely practice a known track), but I have to confess the wall to wall Lotii and Eagles was a little surprising. Although I suppose, given the level of competition in Works these days, not to be unexpected.

Perhaps I was being unduly pessimistic but I was anticipating a crash fest at some point, and decided to save my tokens and take the BRM. I have never had any joy with this car and I felt that it was about time I spent some time getting to grips with it. Monza is a relatively simple track, so my aim was to start at the back and be sure to finish. Maybe if there had been something other than an Eagle or Lotus to race I might have had more fun, but I could not hustle that BRM at a pace that would trouble the faster cars.

having said that, I did arrive at Lesmo 1 in 13th place on lap 1, and exited Lesmo 2 in 4th!!  The wall of scrap metal simply parted as i arrived and I drove straight through... and YES I did laugh!!!! lol lol lol

It took a good few laps for those who survived the melee to either drop out or catch up and for a while I wondered if I might scoop some serious points for the cost of only a couple of tokens. But slowly cars caught and passed me to relegate me to 8th at the end.

I would be grateful for anyone's BRM setups for Monza as I never bettered 1:30 in the race, although I was never pushing at 100% as anything involving a slide just ignited the rear tyres and sent the handling into the "random" category.

Grats and hard luck to Tris ( check the tokens next time Tris  Undecided ) and grats to a good haul of points to Robert and the finishers. I was quite surprised that so many cars made it to the finish as there were some notoriously fragile engines out there...as Greg found out!!

For what it's worth Clive I've only dipped ONCE below 1:30 in the BRM and that was a fluke qualifying lap last time we were at Monza.
Logged

Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10. Why the hell do I keep crashing then?!
Phil Thornton
UKGPL Consigliere
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 8035


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2014, 10:39:57 PM +0100 »

Mod report published
Logged
Tom van Ostade
Full Member
***
Posts: 397


"anything can happen, and it usually does"


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2014, 04:36:28 PM +0100 »

Thank you Phil!
Logged

Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Hosted by DaveGymer.com
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.586 seconds with 57 queries.
anything