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October 19, 2014, 09:37:05 PM +0100 - Dundrod - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Formula Two Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 7 +7.726
119.546mph
1 41:01.528
119.100mph
11 3:41.534
120.305mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 41B GPL F2 6 +7.356
119.745mph
2 +8.820
118.675mph
11 3:41.672
120.230mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 5 +6.714
120.091mph
3 +22.176
118.037mph
11 3:41.791
120.166mph
Dunlop  
GregT
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 1 3:35.215
123.837mph
4 +1:03.379
116.111mph
11 3:36.863
122.896mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Cooper T84 GPL F2 9 +8.782
118.982mph
5 +1:25.895
115.084mph
11 3:41.717
120.206mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 15 +35.408
106.342mph
6 +1L
107.840mph
10 3:55.847
113.004mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 10 +10.412
118.123mph
7 +3L
116.786mph
8 3:40.885
120.659mph
Disco
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 13 +25.395
110.767mph
8 +4L
102.822mph
7 4:02.609
109.854mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 2 +1.194
123.154mph
9 +8L
112.423mph
3 3:42.966
119.532mph
Disco
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 11 +21.394
112.640mph
10 +57.367
104.031mph
3 3:57.368
112.280mph
accident
Dunlop  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 16 +1:00.150
96.787mph
11 +10L
95.640mph
1 4:36.041
96.550mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS7 GPL F2 3 +1.770
122.827mph
12 +17.720
89.922mph
1 4:57.975
89.443mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 19 13 +30.618
86.172mph
1 5:03.276
87.879mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 
Cooper T84 GPL F2 4 +5.556
120.721mph
14 +11L
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Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 8 +8.636
119.060mph
15
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0 ---
---
Disco
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 12 +22.626
112.057mph
16
---
0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T84 GPL F2 14 +31.723
107.929mph
17
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0 ---
---
Disco
Dunlop  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 18 DNS ---
---
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 48 GPL F2 17 +1:10.686
93.220mph
19 ---
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Firestone  
9 UKGPL
 
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 15 20 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The one incident that involved a lot of drivers was just a cascade of events after 1 or 2 cars lost control over the jump. and those following were either closing too quickly or caught unawares when the car in front lost control and slowed.

I am calling this prolonged crashfest a Racing Incident not because it is easier, but because no-one actually did anything blatantly wrong...except allow ambition to exceed ability on the first laps.

But, there were a couple of unreported incidents where cars rejoined the track and caused other drivers some serious problems.

you know who you were and although it is always difficult on a track that is as fast and blind as Dundrod I think more care could have been taken.


Dean Logan was dropped by the server for making a prolonged search for a safe rejoining point and I believe he should have finished in 5th place.
So the server result will be adjusted to reflect this.

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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2014, 06:55:10 PM +0100 »

Had a brief spin round here (can't really say quick!),  but 1x reset per lap seems a bit expensive....!

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2014, 12:44:24 PM +0100 »

Maybe we should use 2 servers, as overtaking is very difficult here  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2014, 06:18:37 PM +0100 »

We will start a second server if we have enough heavies at 21:00 UK time!
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2014, 06:34:03 PM +0100 »

Maybe we should use 15 servers, as everything is nearly impossible here  Roll Eyes...

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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2014, 06:50:38 PM +0100 »

You know a race is going to be tough when the track looks like Bremgarten, but is harder.... and I guess learning the long tracks would be a good way to push back dementia indeed!

PS. Schottenring on Tuesday as well!  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2014, 07:42:23 PM +0100 »

You know a race is going to be tough when the track looks like Bremgarten, but is harder.... and I guess learning the long tracks would be a good way to push back dementia indeed!

PS. Schottenring on Tuesday as well!  Grin

Schottenring's longer compared to here... I rate this narrower than Spa and Bremgarten but way more fun!
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2014, 09:37:19 PM +0100 »

Shortest race for a while  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2014, 09:44:55 PM +0100 »

Shortest race for me also Bernie, did a stop and go then got DQ.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2014, 10:09:20 PM +0100 »

Just a couple of laps to go and........................screen freeze!!  Undecided

Apologies to Ronnie on lap 1. Sry mate I was fighting for control and you closed up so fast that when I tried to get out of your way, you had already moved to that side  Sad
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 10:19:16 PM +0100 »

Just a couple of laps to go and........................screen freeze!!  Undecided

Apologies to Ronnie on lap 1. Sry mate I was fighting for control and you closed up so fast that when I tried to get out of your way, you had already moved to that side  Sad

Fran, evil, Iestyn and myself experienced a freeze at exactly the same time, the cause of which I don't yet know. My race GPL install did the same thing to me earlier today on 8, it may be a byproduct of the track.

Whatever the case, that was some of the worst lap 1 driving I've ever seen.
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 10:20:40 PM +0100 »

ok, so I was out of the race anyway,  but stayed on the server.
My GPL locked up at 32mins 21seconds in.

Could have done with a practice drive today;  also with race fuel - I think that partially caught me out just before the jump.
Then just dropped it on the easy bit between the hairpin & start-line. Before 1/2 distance.

Shame,  was just starting to enjoy it.

Cheers,
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2014, 12:05:47 AM +0100 »

Congrats, Tommie!  You old devil!  Taking a BT14 to victory.  Gotta be sweet!  Smiley  I had wondered why it seemed that you were so off the pace on the straight bits.  I thought that perhaps you under-geared a ton and putting the tacho needle on the peg.  If I'd twigged to the real cause, I may have looked to close in the last laps to make a race of it.  Then, too, a couple of late lap close calls on my part didn't help my pursuit.  Happy with a P3(or perhaps, a P2?)finish.

Horrendous misfortune for Axel.  A last corner, last lap shunt costing the win.  Yes indeed, that last corner can so easily trip one up.  Hate to bring it up but a 15-second time penalty is likely to be applied to you for the reset, Axel.

I've never seen a sim race with so many shunts in viewing the replay cap.  The first lap carnage was something to behold.  Bad luck for all involved.

Point of Order:

I note that Dean Logan is credited with a P7 placing with the standings chart awarding him points and tokens.  He was DQ'd for reversing course beyond GPL's acceptable limits.  Surely, anyone disqualified goes to the bottom of the classification no matter where the finish on the road or how many laps they complete.  In short, no points and no tokens credited.  Correct?
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2014, 01:26:52 AM +0100 »

To finish first, you have to finish first....

Yes! I have added the 15sec and ended in a well deserved 3rd place.  Roll Eyes

This was a tribute to a night watching the Philip Island MotoGP races, being totally tired and exhausted.
For me it was a miracle how all the fast guys went off and I was suddenly in the lead after half a lap, I had never expected to survive this challenge. So I drove save and just as fast as necessary to keep Tommie and Doni in a "save" distance.
After the last hairpin I allready had some wobbles and said to myself "just cruise home", but this seemed wrong, as I slept into the last righthander and ran wide....



 
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2014, 02:11:43 AM +0100 »

In short, no points and no tokens credited.  Correct?

Hopefully not! Dean should surely be credited with 7th and his coins if not the 5th place it actually appears he finished. Is Jim Pearson a sadist? He sure likes to stick you out in the middle of nowhere when you go off in certain places with no place to return to track without backtracking 100's of meters. I was worried I might get a DQ too when I had to turn around at Quarterlands.
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2014, 03:16:43 AM +0100 »

First, I'd like to apologize to Dave R for sticking my nose back on the track in front of you. I floored it to get back to the side of the track and went too far. I couldn't think fast enough to back up. I was hoping nobody would hit me before I could react. But sure enough Dave comes along on the inside trying to stay out of trouble. Luckily, I only seemed to wreck Dave. I hope you're not too angry with me.

Congratulations Tom! Took the win in a crappy car! Congrats Axel and Donnie for avoiding all the carnage and making it to the flag in one piece. Axel's probably more disappointed with himself than I am with myself. It sucks to piss away such a good opportunity to win.

My apologies to you too Rob. After I got back on the track at Deers Leap, I had a green flag coming to the next rise but I immediately see a car stopped on the left. I swerved to avoid it and with there being another crest I don't see Rob and Fran's cars blocking the track until it's too late to stop. I tried to stop and then thread a needle between the two cars but I couldn't quite do it without slamming into Rob's car. Sad

I didn't have a good feeling about turn 1 after the start. With such a strong tow in the F2 cars, such a high speed turn 1, and the brothers Mercaldo breathing down my neck I didn't expect things to go well. I was glad to make it through in one piece and without causing a pileup. I had to wait much later to brake and turn into t1 than I wanted but thankfully Piero gave me a little bit of room. I took it too fast into Leathemstown Corner just a little while later. I ran wide into the grass losing a position to Piero. That really screwed me up in the turn before Deers Leap. I missed my line and lift point with Piero's car blocking my view. That put me in a slide that I couldn't correct once I hit the low spot.

Later in lap 1 at Wheeler's Corner, Marco and Rog came together and I couldn't avoid Marco's car. I actually helped point Marco's car in the right direction and the mechanical report lists him with no damage from the incident. Smiley After my violent spin at Deers Leap, sticking my chin out so Dave might take it off, nailing Rob, and hitting Marco, I can't believe the Matra was still in running condition. What a tough car!

After my 4:51s 1st lap, I still thought I had a chance to win. The race history graphs confirms that thought. I then proceeded to put in 5 good consistent laps. I started to get impatient trying to close such a huge gap that I made a mistake at Cochranstown spinning the car into the hedges. I tried for almost 30 seconds to dislodge it. That ruined any chance of me catching the leaders. I should have reset as soon I went into the hedge but it likely didn't change the outcome of the race. I do wish I had not used such a high gear for 5th. I never needed it to pass on the start-finish straight. I was probably losing a second a lap with that gear.

Thanks Dean for letting me pass. I wasn't expecting it at that point since it was for position. Sorry to slow you down so much. If I had known you'd do that, I would have passed sooner. Thanks again, that was kind of you. Thankfully we were both somewhat patient. It's a shame you went off soon after that. It's very difficult to follow another car here. I know I need a lot more practice to be proficient at it.

I'm glad and disappointed at the same time. Glad to finish 4th when I had only run one lap without a reset 2 hours prior to qualifying starting but disappointed that I pissed away another rare opportunity to win.

Great fun guys. Thanks again.

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