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November 09, 2014, 10:36:25 PM +0000 - Road Atlanta (Full 2007+) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Works Trophy (67)
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:21.839
111.170mph
1 48:28.045
109.500mph
35 1:22.280
110.574mph
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.227
110.862mph
2 +11.123
109.083mph
35 1:21.972
110.989mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 7 +1.653
108.969mph
3 +28.015
108.455mph
35 1:22.236
110.633mph
Firestone  
Col Bentley
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 8 +1.769
108.817mph
4 +34.609
108.212mph
35 1:22.559
110.200mph
Firestone  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +2.443
107.947mph
5 +1:07.156
107.028mph
35 1:23.672
108.734mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 14 +3.127
107.078mph
6 +1L
104.305mph
34 1:23.639
108.777mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +2.274
108.164mph
7 +3.230
104.191mph
34 1:24.934
107.119mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 15 +3.951
106.050mph
8 +2L
102.042mph
33 1:27.371
104.131mph
Firestone  
ivandjj
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 16 +46.549
70.863mph
9 +4L
100.138mph
31 1:27.088
104.469mph
accident
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.198
109.566mph
10 +6L
89.006mph
29 1:39.141
91.768mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 4 +0.826
110.059mph
11 +27L
103.629mph
8 1:23.131
109.442mph
Disco
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 6 +1.297
109.435mph
12 +28L
101.753mph
7 1:24.975
107.067mph
Header
Goodyear  
GregT
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +0.399
110.630mph
13 +31L
106.092mph
4 1:24.012
108.294mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 13 +2.920
107.340mph
14 +34L
95.140mph
1 1:32.563
98.290mph
Disco
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +2.213
108.243mph
15 +35L
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accident
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 +2.503
107.870mph
16
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
UKGPL 8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 17 17 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY
A dominant flag-to-flag victory for Robert Fleurke on a deceptively demanding circuit. Jethro put in a very impressive performance to claim second spot and a stunning fastest lap. The final step on the podium was taken by Tim Muttram who recovered well from a difficult first lap.

A special mention must go to Col Bentley in his first league race with UKGPL, he finished fourth in a Cooper despite losing a lot of time on lap 1. On that showing it won't be long before he is challenging for a race win should he decide to become a regular competitor.

Dean Logan was very unlucky, his Repco engine developed a serious miss fire as the start flag dropped and his Brabham crawled off the line. He realised there was a problem and he stayed right to avoid any possibility of being rear ended. Very considerate and commendable driving, thank you Dean.


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

Lap 1 - Turn 1 - Ronnie Peterson, Tim Muttram and Doni Yourth
Ronnie makes a good start from the left hand side of the grid and sensibly takes the wide line through Turn 1. Unfortunately he was slightly too wide and his nearside rear tyre strayed onto the grass. This caused him to lose control and slowly pirouette across the track into the path of Tim Muttram. Tim couldn't avoid contact and Ronnie was punted back across the track into the path of Doni Yourth. Fortunately everyone was able to continue, apparently unscathed.

Ronnie was driving well and was unfortunate to be caught out by the very slippery white lines on this circuit.

Tim and Doni did their best to avoid the spinning Eagle but there was nothing more they could have done.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m41s

Lap 1 - Straight between Turns 5 and 6 - Doni Yourth and Andrew Livingston
Having lost time in Turn 1, Doni and Andrew find themselves at the back of the field, even behind Dean in his very sick Brabham. As he exits Turn 5 and races down to Turn 6, Andrew closes on Dean and prepares to make a pass on the left. Doni has made a much better exit out of Turn 5 and is alongside Andrew as they approach Dean but unfortunately Doni is in Andrew's blind spot. As Andrew moves left to drive by Dean he moves over into Doni and contact is made. They are both out of the race.

Andrew caught a brief glimpse of Doni in his mirrors as they exited Turn 5 but along the straight there was no sign of him. Andrew didn't expect Doni to have got along side by the time they came to overtake Dean. Whilst this does not absolve Andrew of any blame it was clearly an error of judgement rather than a complete lack of awareness. Andrew simply didn't expect Doni to have made up the gap in such a short period of time. Normally the engine noise of an opponent's car would be a clue to where they are, but given that both Doni and Dean were in Brabhams, the engine noise was of little assistance to Andrew. A caution rather than a penalty is appropriate in this case.

Doni did nothing wrong and was very unlucky to be involved in a second incident in half a lap in which he was totally innocent.


Server replay time: 0h01m49s

Lap 1 - Fox Corner - Andreas Gebhardt and Ivan Djjodjjo
Andreas takes a slightly tighter line as he follows Ivan into Fox Corner. This causes him to close up on the apex and he clips Ivan's gearbox sending the Cooper into a spin. Both drivers recover without any apparent damage.

Andreas wasn't trying to overtake, he simply misjudged the line Ivan was taking and ended up making contact. It is important to leave a little extra room on lap 1 to account for cold tyres and to learn the lines the opposition is taking. Only close up when you are ready to mount a serious attack having studied the opposition and picked an opportune place.

Ivan did nothing wrong.

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« on: November 03, 2014, 03:46:00 PM +0000 »

Season 27 Works Trophy - Round 7 - Road Atlanta

Welcome to Round 7 for the Season 27 Graduates Works Trophy! After the glamour of Monaco we're heading to Georgia in the USA.

Road Atlanta is a 2.54-mile (4.088 km) road course located just north of Braselton, Georgia. The facility is utilized for a wide variety of events, including professional and amateur sports car and motorcycle races, racing and driving schools, corporate programs and testing for motorsports teams. The track has 12 turns, including the famous "esses" between turns three and five; and Turn 12, a downhill, diving turn. The track is owned by NASCAR through its subsidiary Panoz Motorsports, and is the home to the Petit Le Mans, as well as AMA motorcycle racing, and smaller events throughout the year.

We are using the new Road Atlanta '71 track! Note that the above lap records are still for the older GPL version of the track. I recommend GPLRank for laptime pointers.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address = tbc
Race date = Sunday 9-11-2014
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time (21:30 GMT)
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Road Atlanta '71
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Pro
Race length = 35 Laps (50 minutes)
Password: see above

Replays Available here

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated from the start to the exit of T7 on Lap 1. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Works standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Please Note:
The kerbs on this track are very low and can easily be ridden in order to improve laps times.  Drivers are reminded that riding the kerbs is permitted but there must always be at least two wheels within the track boundary at any one time.  If three or four wheels have been placed outside the track boundary then a driver is deemed to have left the track and will subsequently have to perform a rejoin with the necessary caution this dictates.  If you have knowingly overdone the kerb riding or left the track for any othe reason in practice, please abort the lap in order to not post an illegal lap time.

The only exception is Turn 11, Bridge Corner.  It is possible to run wide here and use the pit lane entry to recover to the track without loosing momentum.  However it is not clear if this line is any quicker than maintaining the racing line within the track boundary.  Consequently drivers will not be penalised for running wide here and any affected practice lap times will be allowed to stand.  However the wide line will technically involve a rejoin and consequently any contact incurred will be the responsibility of the rejoining driver.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2014, 11:13:52 PM +0000 »

D'oh, just missed the start, went for dinner with my mum, got back just in time, but my PC was too slow to get race ready... Roll Eyes

I see Col raced today.. can I nominate him as my replacement? angel

My strategy is royally screwed.. I had 2 Ferrari, 2 Lotus.. now I have 3 Lotus? Lips Sealed

Grats guys!
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2014, 11:15:41 PM +0000 »

Happy to survive. I had one grasstrip that cost me 5 secs apart from that I was way to early lifting to let lappers come by on straights. 3-4 secs behind means I could go for another half lap. should have managed 6 th but I enjpyed chasing Evil who obviously was arguing a bit with his Honda .Big gz to Podium..Robert, Jethro and Tim.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2014, 11:16:53 PM +0000 »

D'oh, just missed the start, went for dinner with my mum, got back just in time, but my PC was too slow to get race ready... Roll Eyes
What did you eat?
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2014, 01:17:21 AM +0000 »

Sorry to hear Iestyn. Yes asked Col to run with us, and of course he did splendidly well. Smiley I'm next 3 races probably in the Eagle Wink

Quali was tough with a lot of Yellows and traffic, but finally pulled off a sub22 which was good enough for Pole, but it was close.

Start was OK, but first few laps were really slippery on cold tires, with Jethro on my tail. When the tires came in, I was able to push a bit more and was able to create a gap that I could gradually increase. Last 10 laps took it more easy, didn't want to throw the race away.

Great track, yet challenging, happy to have pulled off a consistent race without major errors. Great job Jethro and Tim, and finishers! Great job Col with P4 in the Cooper and Tommie in the BRM for 5th! Smiley Thanks to the lapped cars for room

Commiserations to all the early retirements...
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2014, 01:30:53 AM +0000 »

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Dean Logan - spotters reporting:
the car has an engine problem.

Leader of the race starts lap 1...

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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 06:20:08 AM +0000 »

Congrats Rob, Jethro, and Tim! Well done.

Never change your shifting patterns just before qualifying starts. Thought I found a new pattern that might make me more consistent without losing any time. Apparently the engine didn't care much for it. Identical explosions in practice and the race ruined any chance of me scoring some points. Oh well. The season started lousy for me and now I don't think it can go much further down hill. Rob said he thought I had a chance to win. Luckily I never deluded myself in such a way. I thought I might get lucky and make the podium but I no real confidence in doing that.

Now that I have little chance of a nice point total for the season, I can do some experimenting. I'll give the Lotus a try soon and see if I can keep the DFV in one piece. My expectations aren't high but it's something I need to learn.

Thanks guys. See you next time.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 11:31:13 AM +0000 »

Was very surprised when i tried to join the race and couldn't because i didn't have new Road Atlanta version on my gpl.

Tried to figure it out in the 10 mins of qualy i had left, but didn't manage to decode last turn and the dip before it.
I guess i had far too low ride height and was losing lots of time there.

Had a bit of a race with AG until i went off twice at, yes, last turn.
Plodded to the finish, while being lapped by the world and his dog.
Not exactly to the finish, as i blew the engine 2 laps from the end.

Congrats to the podium and to smoky braby for perseverance.
In the end he didn't catch me by just 2 laps.

Lets see if 20 tokens and Watkins Glen bring any difference  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2014, 07:13:16 PM +0000 »

I struggled to set the car up adequately so that it didn't bottom through the dip and in the end that was my downfall.  After practicing earlier in the day I successively tried to raise and firm-up (ooo errr) the rear of the fezza and eventually seemed to achieve this on full fuel, but depending upon my line I still managed to ground it.  I'm curious as to the settings of the other drivers, I raised the rear wheel rates to around 150lbs, rear roll bar 200lbs, ride hight 3.6", rear bump rubbers >2", bump = 4, but still this was marginal.  It also took me an age to get to this after making changes incrementally from a Silv setup, perhaps I need to be more patient.


For some reason I also had connection issues...other cars appearing to jump across the screen = I HAVE WARP.  Not sure why, I plugged in.

WD all finishers, c u next time,


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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2014, 07:36:14 PM +0000 »

I'm curious as to the settings of the other drivers, I raised the rear wheel rates to around 150lbs, rear roll bar 200lbs, ride hight 3.6", rear bump rubbers >2", bump = 4, but still this was marginal. 

95/115 springs front/rear
1.5 inch bump rubbers
3.5 inch ride height
3/4 bump/rebound

In the Brab, which is light so doesn't bottom out as soon as other cars. Also I lifted early to have less compression. With these settings I never bottomed out, starting on racefuel.

Your front end might have been too soft? I always try to keep about the same ratio front/rear.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2014, 08:58:40 PM +0000 »

I'm curious as to the settings of the other drivers, .....
Bob, I'm not as fast as the works drivers but I didn't have any bottoming problems with my setup:

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Chassis: 1967 Ferrari 312-Ferrari V12 F1

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Front Tire Pressure, psi                   20            20
Front Wheel Rate, lbs/inch                 100           100
Front Bump                                 2             2
Front Rebound                              2             2
Front Camber, degrees                     -0.75         -0.75
Front Bump Rubber, inches                  1             1

Front Toe In, inches                      -0.275
Front Roll Bar, lbs/inch                   160
Front Ride Height, inches                  4

Front Brake Bias                           53
Steering Ratio                             5
Fuel Level, gallons                        20

Rear Toe In, inches                        0.125
Rear Roll Bar, lbs/inch                    120
Rear Ride Height, inches                   4.500001

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Rear Tire Pressure, psi                    20            20
Rear Wheel Rate, lbs/inch                  115           115
Rear Bump                                  3             3
Rear Rebound                               2             2
Rear Camber, degrees                      -0.25         -0.25
Rear Bump Rubber, inches                   1             1

Power Angle, degrees                       85
Coast Angle, degrees                       30
Clutches                                   2

Gear 1                                    14/33          2.3571
Gear 2                                    16/32          2
Gear 3                                    17/30          1.7647
Gear 4                                    18/26          1.4444
Gear 5                                    23/29          1.2609
Gear Differential                         10/31          3.1
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2014, 11:44:57 PM +0000 »

Wheel rate 110 F 115 R
Ride height 3.2 F 3.3 R

I needed to lift slightly once the track start descending steeply before the big compression.

I saved a nice replay of the Eagle fully compressing, throwing the car into a slide. Then I did a nice 360 and brought the car out of the slide in the middle of the bridge turn to cleanly drive away without a bit of trouble. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2014, 12:13:36 AM +0000 »

2.5 ride height  :'(

And that was meant for former Road Atlanta without the compression.
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2014, 06:57:22 PM +0000 »

Happy with second place, but this is a hard track to get right, so easy to go off.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2014, 08:51:06 PM +0000 »

D'oh, just missed the start, went for dinner with my mum, got back just in time, but my PC was too slow to get race ready... Roll Eyes
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Nothing special, in fact the pub/restaurant was out of Beef and ale pie.. hence trying to eat a half chicken quickly, obviously not quickly enough! More so it's that I only see my mum every 3 or 4 months or so.
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