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July 06, 2015, 08:41:35 PM +0100 - AVUS (1951-67) - UKGTL Season 15 Fifties Sprints
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Bill Grewcock
 Team RaceConnect
Jaguar D-Type (#8) GTC-65 5 +2.165
140.507mph
1 44:28.892
138.605mph
20 2:11.704
140.437mph
Dunlop  
hayman3131
 
Jaguar D-Type (#9) GTC-65 6 +2.691
139.947mph
2 +1:00.937
135.511mph
20 2:14.130
137.897mph
Dunlop  
Bob M.
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Aston Martin DBR1 (#8) GTC-65 10 +6.263
136.265mph
3 +1:31.510
134.011mph
20 2:15.389
136.615mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Jaguar D-Type (#9) GTC-65 9 +5.306
137.232mph
4 +1:46.307
133.296mph
20 2:13.070
138.996mph
Dunlop  
55steve55
 TEAM-GTLDK
Jaguar D-Type (#10) GTC-65 5 +1L
130.047mph
19 2:14.672
137.342mph
Dunlop  
misnoimis
 
Jaguar D-Type (#10) GTC-65 8 +4.618
137.936mph
6 +46.413
127.851mph
19 2:16.063
135.938mph
Dunlop  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Jaguar D-Type (#9) GTC-65 1 2:09.474
142.856mph
7 +1:27.444
125.971mph
19 2:19.561
132.531mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Jaguar D-Type (#7) GTC-65 4 +1.608
141.104mph
8 +1:28.395
125.928mph
19 2:10.938
141.259mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Jaguar D-Type (#10) GTC-65 11 +21.536
122.483mph
9 +1:39.854
125.413mph
19 2:13.828
138.208mph
Dunlop  
chmichel
 
Jaguar D-Type (#9) GTC-65 7 +2.777
139.856mph
10 +8L 12 2:16.248
135.754mph
unknown
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Jaguar D-Type (#9) GTC-65 2 +0.223
142.610mph
11 +19L 1 2:23.968
128.474mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Ati7
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Jaguar D-Type (#7) GTC-65 3 +0.470
142.339mph
12 1 2:43.180
113.348mph
suspension
Dunlop  
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« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2015, 09:43:24 AM +0100 »

Still coming to terms with my inept display last night, when I felt that I had a shot at the podium.

Particularly ironic that it was Erling that was involved in my rejoin  Undecided The top 2 drivers in the table? what are the chances??
As I was rejoining, I knew it was going to be risky with cars coming off the banking at escape velocity, but I was at a standstill and had no choice but to just nail the gas and go, sitting there was not a better option. I guess I must have appeared to stationary to Erling, but I can assure you that I was under max acceleration for a good 2-3 secs before we took our seats in the stands!!

My 2 short test runs in previous days confirmed that the layout was much as I expected from GPL experience and I only got down to some serious lapping 30 mins before joining the server last night.
The only car for this track had to be the Jag with the superior top speed and such long straights ( although I still get worried when I see the red rev limit light come on halfway down a straight and get the urge to back off and protect the engine!!). The setup evolved around getting the absolute max top speed and sacrificing as little of that as possible for stability under braking for the 1st hairpin.
I soon discovered that the optional route was too risky with a car that objected to directional input under brakes, and that it was up to 1.5 secs faster to brake a fraction early and flick the ass around the armco with a dab of power to aim the car back up the next straight, then nail the gas. Not sure if it was my imagination but the tarmac of the road appeared to give more grip than the wide concrete apron?? and I was able to be more aggressive with the gas?
After about 10 laps running solo off line I was getting low 2:09's and with a slight change in approach to the banking I stuck in 2 mid 2:08's on race fuel.
Like Erling I had read the forum and projected 2:14's??  ahem... a little sandbagging from Ati I suspect Roll Eyes.

Once on the server I wanted to pick up a good slipstream and see how that affected speed and braking distances before the race started, and with a quick calculation I reckon that with cars in the right place and hitting all my brake points etc a sub 2:06 was possible.  Unfortunately, a) I never caught cars at the right place and b) someone moved my brake markers!!. In fact I resorted to counting the seconds after a particular tree before downshifting for the kink before the banking...how desperate is that??!!

Pole would have been nice, but frankly no-one was going to escape from the pack on lap 1 with all of that slipstream, so I was content to be on the front row, intending to sit behind Erling for a lap or two until the dust settled.
But, when he was still drinking his coffee and eating his bun as the flag dropped, and I pulled a couple of seconds lead straight off the line, I did try to break away early.......no chance LOL the pack were all over me on the approach to the hairpin.
The aforementioned Kamikaze Brigade did their thing and Ati slipped around the inside to take the lead back up towards the banking. I picked up the draft and it was too easy to pass...so I did. Maybe had I been more patient there would not have been the contact that put Ati out as we turned towards the banking.  Undecided.

That contact slowed me enough for Bill G to get close and I could do nothing about the gap or slipstream that he had until we reached the hairpin. The car slipped around there really well and I pulled a few tenths.......maybe I can get clear of the slipstream zone if I push to the max for a few laps??
Well all of that came to nothing as I left the banking and clipped the very end of the fencing.
In my defence, my virtual mirror which is central on the top of the screen effectively obscured the exit from the banking in cockpit view, and I was aiming the car at where I thought the gap was long before I could actually see the road to the finish line. Sad

Grat to all who survived a "simple" circuit and to a great 3rd place in the Aston Martin!!!
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« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2015, 10:17:51 AM +0100 »

Didn't expect to see the chequered flag. Had only one reasonably satisfying lap during free practice,
all other laps included at least one fault.

So I started from 11th spot and surprisingly found myself running in 4th position after lap 1 or 2.
Then I had some minor faults, damaged the car's aerodynamics and dropped to last place during the race
as my car could just reach a maximum speed between 130 and 140 mph (about 175 mph during the
opening laps of the race, when I reached a new pb of 2:13).
However I decided against a pit stop but was hoping not to drop to last spot  Sad

Close competition on top of the championship  Shocked

Results to be posted tonight when I'm at home.

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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2015, 12:05:58 PM +0100 »

How much concentration do you need for a track with only three turns? Answer = A lot!

After the initial lap I found myself high up the order and soon had third place sorted. Lot's of dicing with Hayman where we would draft passed each other for lap after lap. Then he had a bad off and damaged his car as he was a bit slower so I managed to pull away. I was in 2nd place now but had no hope of catching nitrous Bill so just kept my eyes on the track. Still managed to miss my braking point for the only right hander and hit the wall hard. My car was in the air for an eternity and eventualy came back down to earth. Now I was down 10mph on my previous top speed and had dropped to 5th (I think?). Managed to make up one place but no more than that as the guys in front were many seconds ahead of me. So just settled down and bought the car home. Happy to finish 4th but looking forward to a proper race track (Monza) which is next.
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« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2015, 12:14:11 PM +0100 »

I soon discovered that the optional route was too risky with a car that objected to directional input under brakes, and that it was up to 1.5 secs faster to brake a fraction early and flick the ass around the armco with a dab of power to aim the car back up the next straight, then nail the gas. Not sure if it was my imagination but the tarmac of the road appeared to give more grip than the wide concrete apron?? and I was able to be more aggressive with the gas?

I think you're correct about the better grip.  I fiddled with my brake balance shortly before the race.  Found I could shift it backwards a fair bit, with the vintage tyres I was on.  I could definitely brake later on the tarmac than on the concrete, although not quite as late as I (inadvertently) tried on L1...  Roll Eyes

Truly bad luck that we should collide.  I could see that your car was moving, but with the speed with which I was approaching, it might as well have been stationary. With the reluctance of the Jag with regards to both braking and changing direction (even worse on vintage), I was powerless to avoid it (if only I had spotted you earlier..  :'( )

However I decided against a pit stop but was hoping not to drop to last spot  Sad

Probably a wise decision Kurt. I seemed to have the same problem as you, but pit repairs didn't help one bit, so just a waste of time.

Cheers,
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« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2015, 01:42:53 PM +0100 »

 "2:14's??  ahem... a little sandbagging from Ati I suspect" Yes,only a few test.Very surprised laptime.... Shocked And very grats Bob,great accomplishment.
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« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2015, 03:07:02 PM +0100 »

Thanks for the "atta boy's" guys.  I just did my thing and drove the track as best I could.  The AM is much more stable than the Jag so I thought before the race that 3 or 4 would crash out.  I also was fortunate to have Jags pass me on the straights and I could snag a draft off them.  The corners was where the AM really shined though.  At the hair pin I could outbrake the Jags and sneak close to the armco and whip it around. Then while the Jags were chugging with the 4 speed the AM would pull away even more.  At the banking end right hander I only had to lift for a second and nail it, go to the far right even into the concrete pad along side the track.  Crank it left and she just drifted around no problem all the while at full throttle. At the apex of the bank drop to 4th gear and power away. Scuffed the wall slightly at both ends but no harm done to the car.  Good track for these old cars and has my vote for next season!

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« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2015, 09:03:28 PM +0100 »

Results

Late, but not too late  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2015, 10:49:56 PM +0100 »

Never too late Kurt, thank you.  thumbup1
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« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2015, 01:32:24 PM +0100 »

Yep, no worries about timing Kurt.
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