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December 14, 2014, 09:36:06 PM +0000 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Formula Two Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 3 +0.566
79.396mph
1 40:18.573
78.500mph
27 1:28.098
79.818mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 
McLaren M4A GPL F2 2 +0.158
79.763mph
2 +47.608
76.985mph
27 1:28.147
79.773mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS7 GPL F2 5 +4.121
76.332mph
3 (+2) +1:11.929
76.233mph
27 1:29.975
78.152mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +1.776
78.326mph
4 +1L
74.703mph
26 1:30.710
77.519mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 7 5 +24L
70.925mph
3 1:33.996
74.809mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 1 1:28.000
79.906mph
6 +25L
72.204mph
2 1:33.305
75.363mph
Disco
Goodyear  
9 UKGPL
 
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 6 7 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0h04m25s

David is closing on Bernie as they start a new lap and Bernie runs wide at St Devote rubbing the barriers. David gets closer as a result. At the top of the hill as Bernie turns into Casino Square he runs wide again, mounting the kerb and running along the armco.
This offers David a clear track around the normal racing line and he takes the opportunity to pass Bernie who is grinding his way along the armco wrestling with the steering wheel.
Just as David draws alongside Bernie's car has slowed enough for the steering to be effective nad he lurches across the track and side swipes David. David is thrown into Casino Square but is able to collect the car and take the right turn on the outside. Bernie meanwhile has decided to get himself going and fires his car around the inside of the same right hand corner, although he can see David's front wheel right alongside. Another contact spins David into the armco and he retires...Bernie carries on.

This all starts with a bad rejoin by Bernie when he should have simply yielded the position to David who was in full control and travelling much more quickly.

Blatant Bad Rejoin: Penalty 2 Places
The rejoining driver was NOT in full control but nevertheless attempted to drive straight back onto the racing line without any consideration for other drivers and contact was made.

December 14, 2014, 10:37:58 PM +0000 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Formula Two Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 2 +0.047
81.872mph
1 39:03.459
81.000mph
27 1:25.940
81.806mph
Goodyear  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Cooper T84 GPL F2 5 +0.849
81.115mph
3 +43.011
79.540mph
27 1:26.975
80.832mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 4 +0.803
81.158mph
4 +43.836
79.513mph
27 1:26.652
81.133mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 8 +1.288
80.706mph
5 +45.984
79.441mph
27 1:26.806
80.990mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Matra MS7 GPL F2 6 +1.061
80.917mph
6 +50.270
79.299mph
27 1:26.533
81.245mph
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
McLaren M4A GPL F2 9 +1.324
80.673mph
7 +1:08.196
78.710mph
27 1:27.778
80.093mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 10 +1.688
80.337mph
8 +1:08.520
78.699mph
27 1:27.361
80.475mph
Goodyear  
GregT
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 7 +1.121
80.861mph
9 +1:12.975
78.554mph
27 1:26.944
80.861mph
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 12 +2.604
79.505mph
10 +1L
77.463mph
26 1:27.556
80.296mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Matra MS7 GPL F2 11 +2.413
79.677mph
11 +11L
73.676mph
16 1:28.769
79.199mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 3 +0.372
81.564mph
12 +26L
77.469mph
1 1:30.155
77.981mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 15 ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Brabham BT14 GPL F2 14 16 ---
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Dunlop  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 1 1:25.823
81.917mph
Excluded +0L
80.237mph
27 1:25.207
82.509mph
Goodyear  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 13 +6.109
76.474mph
Excluded DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0

Iestyn transgressed the rule that a driver cannot change his car selection once he has completed a timed lap in qualifying and is therefore excluded from the results.

  • Iestyn Daviespenalty — change of chassis during qualifying — excluded
  • Iestyn Daviespenalty — change of chassis during qualifying — excluded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:25.823
82.011mph
Iestyn Davies
Qualifying
McLaren M4ADecember 14, 2014, 10:37:58 PM +0000
S27F2
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:25.207
82.604mph
Iestyn Davies
Race
McLaren M4ADecember 14, 2014, 10:37:58 PM +0000
S27F2
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« on: December 10, 2014, 04:28:19 PM +0000 »

Welcome to the S27 F2 Championship - Round 10 - Monaco

The last round of the S27 Formula 2 Trophy.
Circuit de Monaco is a street circuit laid out on the city streets of Monte Carlo and La Condamine around the harbour of the principality of Monaco. It is commonly referred to as "Monte Carlo" because it is largely inside the Monte Carlo neighbourhood of Monaco. A very challenging tight twisty circuit, few opportunities for passing but plenty of chances to hit the scenery. You’ve heard this before but please take care, especially on Lap 1!
There will be no handicaps this season but, much like the 67-based series, tokens will be used!

Matra MS7 FVA :       16 tokens
Matra MS5 FVA :       14 tokens
Brabham BT23 FVA : 14 tokens
Lola T100 FVA :        14 tokens
Lotus 48 FVA :         14 tokens
Lotus 41B FVA:        12 tokens
McLaren M4A FVA :   12 tokens
Protos 16 FVA :        10 tokens
Lola T100 BMW :      10 tokens
Cooper T84 FVA :      6 tokens
Ferrari 166 :              3 tokens
Brabham BT14 LF :    0 tokens

Please check the Season 27 pages for details regarding rules and the Formula 2 Trophy pages in particular.

For this race we use 2 separate grids for lights and heavies because of the limited possibilities to pass!

You have ONE SHIFT-R with a Stop n Go of 0 seconds!
Only Reported incidents moderated outside the Red Zone
Full moderation of lap one Red Zone

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8 for the light brigade - IP address 95.113.253.114
Server = UKGPL_9 for the heavy brigade - IP address 37.157.48.87
Variant = 1967 Formula 2
Damage Model = Intermediate
Track =  Monaco (Papy)
Race length = ~40min -> 27 laps
Race date = Sunday 14-12-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Qualifying time = 45 - 30 minutes
Race time = ~21:30 UK time
Red Zone =from the start to the exit of Portier on Lap 1.
Replays = you get here

Please restrict chat to only urgent messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave a full (19 driver) server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please ensure you have enough tokens in your bank to be able to take the desired chassis!

Good luck all!
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2014, 06:47:43 PM +0000 »

UKGPL9 set for 27 laps long and listening. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2014, 09:45:24 PM +0000 »

2 accidents in early laps put me out of race, will blame it on late home/ yuk setup anything, truth is my poor driving.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2014, 10:00:47 PM +0000 »

I got the pole with difficulty, only 0,16sec from Bastian.
Unfortunately Bastian rear ended me on the 1st lap.
I restarted last but, on the second lap, there were several side by side contacts with Bernie.
So I prefered to retired as I had no motivation anymore.

It's a pity we were only 5 at the start.

   
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2014, 10:18:59 PM +0000 »

I'm so sorry, just braked as in qualy but it was too late for your racing line.
i didn't know and took to much risk.
Didnt want it to end that way. some more mistakes later. grats to Dave Curtis, no mistakes.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 10:28:15 PM +0000 »

Tough place to trade places David , sorry you lost your MoJo .
I had a lonely race to 3rd (pending moderation ) practise was interesting when my pedals stopped working for some reason , had to disco switch off then give them a good smacking , PC re boot and back into the game but no time left for qually or race testing.  Found my race set up wasn't good with too much understeer though it did get better with hotter rubber , couldn't do anything about the front runners so ran my own race hoping someone would fall off the quay or maybe stop at the Tabac for gitannes or similar  , no takers though so had to play follow the leader all the way home .


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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2014, 10:40:21 PM +0000 »

Bit of a race to forget, the only two events to note were Clive's mahoosive shunt up the hill that had a big knock-on effect for those behind, and being lapped towards the end. Too many mistakes, not enough practice. Roll on the off-season.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2014, 11:45:43 PM +0000 »

<ramble>
I know there were only a handful of us on the Heavy grid,   but probably a good call round here...  I'd hate to get in the way of the big boys/men...

So, with my permitted tokens;  took a look at GPLRANK to see which chassis appeared to be more popular;  M4A won then.  Didn't look as if the Lotus 41B was in there much...

Managed a 1:33 round here the other night,  so thought that would probably do for starters. Although, I'd made a comment  'unstable at chicane'  - whatever that is supposed to mean!

Tried it again for qually;  managed to get 4.5 seconds off PB from the other night with the same (default) setup.  Managed to get another .45 seconds off that in the race;  probably due to Bastian's generous tow Smiley
Also realised that despite the scraping sounds at the chicane,  it didn't seem to be crashing;  so maybe those unstable comments were a little unfounded..

Unlucky DR.   Realistically,  you/Bastian should have eased away & probably kept each other busy for a while.   Was happy enough to follow Bastian around for as long as possible;  just trying to keep touch in case of any issues.

And there it was,  at the chicane.  Unlucky fella!

I managed to pick up the place & tried to keep calm.  I knew that Bastian would be back;  was somewhat surprised when that gap got bigger & bigger.

In the end, I was just trying to be careful.  Every lap, I was a little surprised to not crash at the chicane / end up in the barrier at the hairpin.  Still, there's always the next lap... Smiley

On the last lap,  engine started spluttering up the hill.  Maybe the extra gallon would have been a good idea after all;  there again - I was expecting to be lapped...
Rolled over the line with a few psi of fuel available.  Luckily, there were no other cars with me for the last lap.

Yep,  I was lucky.  I also quite like the M4A now Smiley


</ramble>
ok, so it's probably pending final moderation etc - but congrats DaveR on the season win.  Also, another Black Night cup by the looks of it.

Cheers all,  I guess I'll see most of you next season!
Dave.


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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2014, 07:46:10 AM +0000 »

Too many error for me,enough to lose the third position.Now i don't remember but i have lost the car,like Grupp,in   the chicane after the tunnel 2 or 3 times.Anyway the third position could be the maximum for me.
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 08:59:35 AM +0000 »

yes, unfortunately concentration was gone after the first mistake in chicane when you passed me Dave.
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 09:25:51 AM +0000 »

In hindsight, but it is always difficult to look backwards when driving GPL, I maybe should have stayed away from this race.

I had been away for the weekend, giving my wife a birthday treat, and got home totally knackered only a couple of hours before the start. It was my good lady who roused me from my dozing in the armchair to ask if I had a race. Don't worry, it was not because she encourages my participation in GPL......she wanted to change the channel on the TV!!!!

I knew that I had a decent setup for Moanco and plenty of tokens in the bank, so I opted for the Brab and slowly wound up the wick until I was pressing Robert for pole. He just had the edge on me and I could not find that perfect lap that prib promised that would have given me the front spot. Then to really upset me, my team mate Iestyn drops in a bomb of a lap to snatch pole.

The start as always was critical and I was careful to make sure that I did not lose places or drop too far behind Iestyn and Robert. Iestyn went off like a rocket and started to build a gap even on lap 1 Shocked, although I felt I could go a little quicker than Robert there was no way that I could make a pass around here. Monaco is always a race against the circuit first and the other cars second and I should have been concentrating harder.

Then I guess mental tiredness caught me out at St Devote when I went in a fraction too fast on cold tyres and the back end just squirmed away from me. I almost caught the slide but ended up going slowly up the pavement on the inside as several cars swept past. I knew rejoining would be difficult but I saw a gap in the traffic behind and nailed the gas.

I had just got going and the engine went "pop" and I was a road block for cars behind. SORRY GUYS  Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided. I hit the escape just as someone ( Marco??) hit my gearbox.  Hope everyone got past...I just went to bed!!

Grats to Robert and Iestyn on stunning pace, just wish that I could have joined the fight.  Sad



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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 11:26:03 AM +0000 »

I too should probably have missed this race, as I had a bit of a cold, but I didn't think it'd affect me too badly... ** those of a delicate disposition should not read any further **

...at some point early in the race I sneezed...and covered the screen in snot!! I had to.... er, actually, I'll just let your imaginations handle that :-)

Tried to continue but regular sneezing caused me to be slow and erratic, and when I started getting lapped, I thought it best for everyone that I go back to bed...

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2014, 12:22:01 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 02:30:09 PM +0000 »

Quali was pretty close with Clive improving his times and then cheeky Iestyn taking pole at the checkers in that session. Impressive, in his 3rd lap. Had a mechanical problem and some probs with traffic, but was able to pull off a sub26 which was my aim.

As Monaco always has been a difficult track for me (as tight tracks usually are) -also thanks to my 270 degree wheel not allowing the steering ratio I would like for my driving style- I didn't expect to contend for the win, especially with Iestyn and Clive around who are fierce racers, especially here.

Was very nervous at the start, and kind of all over the place the first laps. Iestyn was driving away, and Clive close behind. Clive had to dodge me at Gazométres, the final turn, when I had a halfspin and bogged down. As always he did a great job avoiding me. Also messed up St. Devote, and in my mind I felt guilty when I saw Clive go sideways in the mirrors....what a shame Clive, you deserved to be up there to race for the win...

Inherited the lead when Iestyn looped it at Gazométres, and he pushed hard behind me. He just was way quicker than me, and after a few laps already the pressure got too much and I messed up St. Devote, Iestyn went by. Again Iestyn looped it at the final turn, and from then on no pressure anymore and was able to run consistently to the checkers, taking the win and the Lights championship! Smiley

Good job Iestyn, stunning pace, and grats to Piero in the T84 Wink Also well done finishers, and thanks to Jethro who was very courteous letting me lap very early towards Portier...grats also to Dave Curtis for Heavies win, and Bastian and Bernie for podium!

Congrats Dave Rainier for the Heavies championship, and all those are in honorable places, Greg and Dean in Lights; and Dave Curtis and Roger in Heavies. Thanks all for racing, and thanks to the mods. Guys like Axel and Jethro are invaluable with their free servers, thanks guys! Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2014, 08:37:23 PM +0000 »

Tough place to trade places David.

Not at all !
Just look at the replay : You were completely against the guardrail during several meters so the track was totally free in front of me.

I submit a report, the moderator will decide.

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