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February 12, 2015, 08:45:42 PM +0000 - Charade (1989-) - UKPnG Season 10 Limited Choice Challenge
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW CSL Alpina (#76059) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 2 +0.179
82.449mph
1 40:44.912
80.261mph
20 2:00.484
81.435mph
Dunlop  
fzcfede
 Team7
BMW CSL Alpina (#76024) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 1 1:58.823
82.573mph
2 +23.804
79.488mph
20 1:59.652
82.001mph
Dunlop  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BMW 3.0 CSL Gr2 (#74024) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 3 +0.818
82.009mph
3 +35.155
79.124mph
20 2:01.383
80.832mph
Goodyear  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW 3.0 CSL Gr2 (#74024) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 5 +4.035
79.861mph
4 +1:29.259
77.434mph
20 2:03.643
79.354mph
Goodyear  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BMW 3.0 CSL Gr2 (#74024) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 6 +4.642
79.469mph
5 +1:44.954
76.958mph
20 2:04.838
78.595mph
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#75002) {unknown} 10 +6.433
78.332mph
6 +2:00.308
76.497mph
20 2:04.152
79.029mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BMW CSL Alpina (#73015) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 9 +5.979
78.617mph
7 +2:08.832
76.244mph
20 2:05.689
78.063mph
Dunlop  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
BMW CSL Alpina (#76059) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 7 +5.415
78.974mph
8 +8L 12 2:04.820
78.606mph
engine
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
BMW CSL Alpina (#7502) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 9 +12L 8 2:05.977
77.884mph
engine
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BMW CSL Alpina (#76059) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 4 +1.194
81.752mph
10 +13L 7 2:02.593
80.034mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
BMW 3.0 CSL Gr2 (#7401) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 8 +5.690
78.800mph
11 7 2:05.908
77.927mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BMW CSL Alpina (#76024) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 12 +16L 4 2:05.738
78.032mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
BMW CSL Alpina (#73015) P&G 70s Gr2 O2L 11 +6.910
78.035mph
13 +17L 3 2:08.772
76.194mph
suspension
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
{unknown}
2:05.256
78.332mph
phspok
Qualifying
BMW CSL SchnitzerFebruary 12, 2015, 08:45:42 PM +0000
P10LCC
GTR2
{unknown}
2:04.152
79.029mph
phspok
Race
BMW CSL SchnitzerFebruary 12, 2015, 08:45:42 PM +0000
P10LCC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 O2L
1:58.823
82.573mph
fzcfede
Qualifying
BMW CSL AlpinaFebruary 12, 2015, 08:45:42 PM +0000
P10LCC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr2 O2L
1:59.652
82.001mph
fzcfede
Race
BMW CSL AlpinaFebruary 12, 2015, 08:45:42 PM +0000
P10LCC
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« on: February 02, 2015, 12:14:18 PM +0000 »


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Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (65 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ (20 laps)
Cars allowed: Group A= BMW CSL any 24v or 12v   Group B= BMW CSL 12v
Top 3 drivers in the championship standings may drive Group B cars ONLY.
All other drivers are allowed any car from Group A or Group B


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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 01:09:25 PM +0000 »

Just to confirm which cars we can use Matt.

Group A: BMW CSL all including the IMSA

Group B: BMW CSL 3.3 12v, there isn't a 24v 3.3.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 01:55:36 PM +0000 »

Sorry, my mistake.
Group A is any CSL 3.3/3.5 12v or 24v
Group B is any 12v. 3.3 or 3.5
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 02:48:57 PM +0000 »

OK thanks Matt.  thumbup1
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 03:15:31 PM +0000 »

 scared scared scared scared scared
I fluke a 3rd place in the first race of the series and...........I pay the penalty!!!
At least it takes the guesswork out of which car to drive!!!  Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 03:36:23 PM +0000 »

Chortle, yes, winning smarts here  Evil
I found the 3.3 12v to be more nimble round here, though both the 12v cars are
for me at least a couple of seconds slower than the 24 volt ones.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2015, 10:24:16 PM +0000 »

The tyres seem to be good for all of a lap!  No matter which ones I put on!
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2015, 10:32:46 AM +0000 »

Ah yes , the tyres. The 3.3 12v front left gets hot enough to fry bacon, but lasts better than it looks
we've been here before a few times, a good workman always blames his tools.  Roll Eyes
or is it a good tool always blames his workman...
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2015, 09:37:51 AM +0000 »

Charade is a wonderful track, but I I sure don't like the Beamer.


If I use soft tyres, it has good grip, but gets hopeless to handle for me, once the tires are half worn.


I need to use hard tires, but then the car has very poor grip, and I tend to leave the tarmic on a more regular basis :- ))



My best laptime on the Hard Tires and race fuel is 2.03.xxx, bit I will be very happy just to finish this one.


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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2015, 05:40:23 PM +0000 »

Charade is a wonderful track, but I I sure don't like the Beamer.


If I use soft tyres, it has good grip, but gets hopeless to handle for me, once the tires are half worn.


I need to use hard tires, but then the car has very poor grip, and I tend to leave the tarmic on a more regular basis :- ))



My best laptime on the Hard Tires and race fuel is 2.03.xxx, bit I will be very happy just to finish this one.


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Worry not Stig, in the 12 volt machine I have only seen one 2:03 and that was on soft tyres!

I shall just go for a stooge and hope everybody else hits the scenery a lot!
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2015, 08:55:18 PM +0000 »

I still don't like PnG BMW's then. no
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2015, 09:18:04 PM +0000 »

Apologies to Provocateur and a few other drivers for my bad driving in the opening lap.Should have practised on meds and blown the red mist away before dashing off the line! This more or less sums up my evening at Charade. Ok qually and awfully bad race until fatal(for the engine that is) crash. No one to blame but me. Sorry team.
Hope everybody else had a great time.

Cheers, Dan
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2015, 09:43:08 PM +0000 »

Results and Replay Posted
tough cars on that track, yet I had an easy test session, but I think the Schnizer was
more powerful than my test car, it sure was a handful  Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2015, 08:02:37 AM +0000 »

Really didn't like that combo at all. The beemers had shocking handling on that track and what's with the over cooking front left brake that pitches the car into a slide it spin under heavy braking?! Tried to dial it out but found the raconv painful. After getting pitched off for no apparent reason once again, I parked up and quit in disgust. Sad

These cars are better on tracks they can stretch their legs on. Dijon prenois would have been much better. A great track we've forgotten to use.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2015, 09:09:38 AM +0000 »

Let's face it I thought that I was always going to struggle here, with a "B" grade car and lack of experience with these Beemers.
I have to agree with some of the other comments here that I find the handling "different", maybe if I had a few hundred hours to practice I might get my head around it. Roll Eyes

I used a Soggies setup and tweaked it a little, mostly in the brake balance to move it back and allow the front to turn in earlier. This also seemed to help keep the front tyres out of the infra red spectrum.
A quick practice session proved that the softs would probably not last the race so I stuck mediums all round and they were still 75% intact at the end of the race, so maybe the softs might have survived?? who knows.

A gentle nudge on Lap 1 left me at the rear of the field and playing catch up in an underpowered car...not good  Undecided.
But slowly I reeled in a few targets ahead and Matt (phspok) appeared from somewhere behind to hassle me. Eventually he got past and I tried to stay with him as we closed on Doni and Mark ahead. 
at half distance a sudden epidemic of Hari Kari erupted and cars seemed to be throwing themselves off the track ahead of me. Doni, Mark, Legzy, Senior Dan, and Matt and then Postal all dropped off the charts. A couple of them rejoined behind for a few laps and then quit, except Matt who insisted on being a nuisance and hunted me down again.
Despite defending as fairly as I could, the extra strain on my tyres was getting them very hot and eventually i got a tank slapper out of the final corner just as Matt drew alongside. There was contact and I only just held it together as Matt went ahead. Then guilt got the better of him and he relinquished the place ( although he did not need to IMHO), not only that but he dropped back by about 7 seconds as well!! Then i relised it was just a ploy to demonstrate his superior speed and ability, because he rapidly closed the gap in the final few laps to sweep past!!. I made the last lap a banzai effort to keep the pressure on hoping for another mistake from Matt, but he didn't oblige and I discovered the limit of temperature and grip on the medium tyres as I spun on the penultimate corner.

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