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  • NGT Sprint - S2 R9 - Estoril: February 28, 2006
February 28, 2006, 09:21:21 PM +0000 - Estoril (GP (2000 onwards)) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 2 N-GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Rich_A
 CBFR
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 2 +1.272
91.861mph
1 40:16.946
88.301mph
23 1:41.418
91.493mph
Dunlop  
LEUVEN
 CBFR
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 1 1:39.740
93.033mph
2 +22.914
87.472mph
23 1:40.894
91.969mph
Pirelli  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 5 +1.792
91.391mph
3 +28.510
87.272mph
23 1:42.688
90.362mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +2.757
90.530mph
4 +47.820
86.588mph
23 1:43.481
89.669mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 4 +1.368
91.774mph
5 +49.415
86.532mph
23 1:42.600
90.439mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 13 +2.898
90.406mph
6 +1:02.095
86.089mph
23 1:42.510
90.519mph
Dunlop  
jan duijs
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 14 +3.030
90.290mph
7 (+2) +1:03.392
86.044mph
23 1:41.879
91.079mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +2.237
90.992mph
8 +1:17.852
85.545mph
23 1:42.868
90.204mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 6 +1.826
91.360mph
9 +1:23.731
85.344mph
23 1:42.886
90.188mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 11 +2.811
90.482mph
10 +1L
84.423mph
22 1:42.260
90.740mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 20 +4.733
88.818mph
11 +9.398
84.096mph
22 1:44.395
88.884mph
Pirelli  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 12 +2.865
90.435mph
12 +36.683
83.161mph
22 1:43.449
89.697mph
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 3 +1.307
91.829mph
13 +1:17.260
81.809mph
22 1:41.398
91.511mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 19 +4.486
89.028mph
14 +3L
74.597mph
20 1:45.426
88.015mph
Dunlop  
whitham69
 Team Unpronounceable
Mosler MT900R NGT 18 +4.088
89.370mph
15 20 1:44.380
88.897mph
engine
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Ze insane Penguins
Mosler MT900R NGT 21 +6.022
87.735mph
16 +8L 15 1:45.746
87.749mph
suspension
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 8 +2.378
90.866mph
17 +11L 12 1:43.652
89.521mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 9 +2.542
90.720mph
18 12 1:44.004
89.218mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +3.334
90.023mph
19 +12L 11 1:43.486
89.665mph
unknown
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 16 +3.558
89.828mph
20 +14L 9 1:43.338
89.793mph
unknown
Dunlop  
longskater1969
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 17 +3.686
89.717mph
21 +19L 4 1:51.281
83.384mph
unknown
Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 206s

As the field fly down to the first corner Mark Jonzo gets caught out by the first lap early braking and rear ends Popabawa who ends up in the gravel.
When Mark realised what was happening he correctly tried to veer off to the left and away from the corner apex but unfortunately slid into the back of team-mate Pops.

  • Mark J (Mark Jonzo)penalty — first lap rear end shunt — 3 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 215s

Tyf gets around the outside of Greg130 in T1 but Greg squeezes him out on the exit of the turn, resulting in Tyf having to ease off to avoid going off. The incident is partly caused by the track kinking to the right at that point, and even though Greg didn't actually move to the left, he could have given more space considering that they were alongside at the apex.

  • greg130 (Greg130)penalty — side by side contact — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 677s

Jan Duijs comes from quite far back trying to overtake Greg at the end of the back straight. Jan locks up over the bumps and slides into the left rear of Greg's car, sending him off.

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« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2006, 04:11:52 PM +0000 »

Have they supplied GTL templates then? Are they on the CD like GTR's are?
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« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2006, 04:18:43 PM +0000 »

I don't know exactly what's on the CD's and the GTL templates I don't think were supposed to be released but GTR2 is now made by Simbin i.e Ian Bell and co. I'm sure they will see to it to release templates and car files. They did it for GTR, they released templates and a little later the .car files right? If it's a licensing issue then it would have existed for GTR too and they wouldn't have released them.. who knows!! I'll send out a bunch of emails.

I think there are only licensing issues when new cars are added i.e McLaren F1 ect. So really they could even get in trouble for these cars being added, but more than likely they have agreements to protect them, something like - We do not support third party addons, we only support addons for the vehicles already present in GTR ect ect..

Only reason tbh is cause they can't be arsed, which is unlikely given they will be doing 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 and 11........ Grin
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« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2006, 04:45:42 PM +0000 »

They did it for GTR, they released templates and a little later the .car files right?

Alledgedly they released them by accident for GTR. A bit like putting the wrong dedicated server into 1.5. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2006, 04:56:29 PM +0000 »

I noticed on results that my 996 is named 911 and also the 996 I was in i'm fairly sure uses Yokohama tyres but on results it says Dunlop.. well it has Yokohama sponsor on bonnet - it's the Seikel car. There must be a list somewhere of all tyres used by different cars?

996 is the internal model name for what is sold as the 911.

I don't believe that GTR has any actual Yokohama tyres modelled - I think they cheated and reused the Dunlop model for Yokohama-tyred cars. I'll check when I have time.

Yep, thought so; it may say Yokohama on the graphics but inside the .car file it says:
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HDVehicle=996gt3_Dunlop.hdc
Description="Porsche Teams - 911 GT3-RS"

So it's really got Dunlops on and its public-facing name is "911".
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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2006, 07:47:54 PM +0000 »

Guidelines are fine. Regulations aren't Smiley
.. regulations are an important part of a society and/or an organisation. They have their purpose and are usually for a very good reason. They provide structure and stability, they promote a caring authoritative atmosophere which harvest's a sense of well being to all members within an organization. There is always the case of there being too much or too little.. too much and you exhaust interested/potential members, too little and you discourage the enthusiast.

WTF!? Are we talking gaming here or wot?!  Huh Sad Angry

I like to see driver names on number plates or wotever else. I also like to see Sharks or Penguins on windows. Please keep it this 'free' way. Bloody hell, enough regulations and rules in normal life, let's not start in my virtual one or I'm off!

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« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2006, 08:24:01 PM +0000 »

This has turned into quite an interesting conversation. Smiley

So this is a form of escapism for some? Blah!! This is not escapism for me, nor relaxing. It can be satisfying but rarely.. and takes alot from me both physically and mentally! Not to mention financially, it's not every day you spend a grand on hardware for a mere game!

No, i'm in this for the buzz of real racing - which to me is rules, regulations, hierachy, democracy and of course racing race cars.

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« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2006, 10:24:44 PM +0000 »

So this is a form of escapism for some?

I know a bunch of pixels pretending to be a car when I see it.  Tongue
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« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2006, 11:17:16 PM +0000 »

I now a bunch of pixels pretending to be a car when I see it.  Tongue

And I know the difference between 'know' and 'now' (and 'no'). Tongue Cheesy
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« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2006, 11:19:14 PM +0000 »

I'm not keen on putting too many details on cars anyways. In race I don't see them (I'm focusing on who the driver is - skin helps a lot; where is he positoned on track and how to overtake/block him). To see all the details you have to go to the showroom, which is nice to see. But only for a few minutes.

I admire your work, guys, you're great artists and enthusiasts, especialy Rich who GTRMAN-ded it together, but I don't think it should go further than that. Maybe an update of minor overlooked things, no more.

I feel great driving the car in the team livery, but would not want to impose on the guys to work more on the skin. As Tyf said, lets keep it simple and have fun with the game, not be frustrated with an over-regulated monster. Hell, I have that sh!t at work!  Grin  
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« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2006, 11:27:59 PM +0000 »

I like to see driver names on number plates or wotever else. I also like to see Sharks or Penguins on windows. Please keep it this 'free' way. Bloody hell, enough regulations and rules in normal life, let's not start in my virtual one or I'm off!

P.S. Proposing something is fine... Saying what u want to see and what should be done is not...

Steady on old bean, all that was suggested was that car numbers and windscreen banners be in a standard form, which helps both with recognising cars, and looks good on screenshots and videos which promote the league. It's not like anyone suggested banning pictures of penguins, sharks, seals, sea cucumbers or any other marine wildlife.

I do try hard to keep SimRacing.org.uk's rules down to a minimum, and only include things which improve the fun factor of the league's championships. I don't think anything has been suggested on this thread in such a way as to imply that it was anything more than the author's opinion, so please, everyone, let's not get too emotional about it. Tears and keyboards can lead to electrocution! Shocked Cheesy Tongue
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« Reply #71 on: March 02, 2006, 12:54:01 AM +0000 »

Yes soz about that Dave, guess it's the way in which people give their opinions that gets me going Wink.

I only NO the difference between yes & KNOW though! NOW what I mean? Cheesy Wink Grin

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« Reply #72 on: March 02, 2006, 09:26:47 AM +0000 »

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Good one Tyf! LOL! Cheesy
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« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2006, 12:42:44 PM +0000 »

To be honest, I prefer it when Tyf says it in pictures  Wink. Although, I didn't have a clue what he said.
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« Reply #74 on: March 02, 2006, 05:18:40 PM +0000 »

To be honest, I prefer it when Tyf says it in pictures  Wink. Although, I didn't have a clue what he said.

LOL! Gins, of course ye don't Wink Cheesy

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