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March 29, 2015, 10:36:17 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 28 (2015) 69 Extra Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 7 +1.370
125.982mph
1 53:18.910
125.148mph
38 1:22.883
127.109mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.065
127.980mph
2 +0.665
125.122mph
38 1:22.601
127.543mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Matra MS10 (1969) F1 1969 6 +1.250
126.163mph
3 +25.981
124.139mph
38 1:23.397
126.325mph
Dunlop  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:22.254
128.081mph
4 +29.431
124.007mph
38 1:22.286
128.031mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Matra MS10 (1969) F1 1969 3 +0.404
127.455mph
5 +40.016
123.601mph
38 1:22.862
127.141mph
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 4 +0.836
126.792mph
6 +59.821
122.850mph
38 1:23.415
126.298mph
Dunlop  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 9 +1.967
125.089mph
7 +1:13.546
122.335mph
38 1:23.048
126.856mph
Dunlop  
GregT
 
Matra MS84 F1 1969 12 +2.913
123.700mph
8 +1L
121.430mph
37 1:25.127
123.758mph
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 10 +2.084
124.916mph
9 +30.690
120.280mph
37 1:25.174
123.690mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 13 +4.619
121.271mph
10 +2L
118.456mph
36 1:25.093
123.808mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 17 +7.163
117.820mph
11 +9.496
118.105mph
36 1:25.431
123.318mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 15 +5.020
120.714mph
12 +21.630
117.661mph
36 1:25.750
122.859mph
Goodyear  
Baab
 Team Baarf
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 5 +1.226
126.200mph
13 +11L
119.182mph
27 1:24.527
124.637mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 11 +2.558
124.218mph
14 +14L
118.883mph
24 1:24.276
125.008mph
Disco
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
McLaren M9A F1 1969 16 +6.639
118.515mph
15 +19L
114.306mph
19 1:28.001
119.716mph
Disco
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS84 F1 1969 19 16 +26L
106.472mph
12 1:32.356
114.071mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS10 (1969) F1 1969 8 +1.591
125.650mph
17 +38L
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 14 +4.996
120.747mph
18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL 8
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 18 19 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Summary

Andreas and Tim have a nice battle for 1st place. Tim finishes on top, followed by Andreas and Dean. Iestyn has the fastest lap of the race and finishes fourth.


Server replay time: 0h00m44s

Lap 1 - Start Line – The polesitter, Iestyn, has engine trouble at the start, and is rendered immobile (43 seconds). Ronnie is directly behind Iestyn, and drives around him. Piero turns his steering wheel away from Ronnie's car and slows down, but does not have enough time to avoid contact. There is no penalty for having engine trouble. Although the GPL recommended driver behavior says to retire ASAP if that is the quickest way to clear the road in a particular circumstance. Piero had an unavoidable rear end shunt. The victim, Ronnie, was not holding his line and speed, and Piero did not have full control because his tires were spinning. Also Piero had less than a second to react. Dean is close behind Piero. Dean has no time to react, and makes contact with Piero. Dean concluded the incident was inevitable with the grid layout and an immobile polesitter. An offset in the lines would have made Ronnie's dive for the clear space less drastic, and may have avoided some of the ugly. Everyone was just trying to get through the insufficient space available.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h00m46s

Lap 1 - Start Line - Cookie and Samb are approaching the incident. Cookie slows down at the 45 second mark. Samb's view of incident is obstructed by Cookie's car. Sam slows a half second later than Cookie. The gap that Sam needs to drive between Cookie's car and Iestyn's car shrinks at the last moment. JonnyO and Doni do not have time to avoid Sam's car and each make contact. Cookie and JonnyO retire from the race. Sam performs a shift-R and Stop & Go. Doni is able to continue after the track is cleared.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h00m47s

Lap 1 - Start Line - Arf Arf Arf and Greg Taber are approaching the incident. Arf slows down at the 45 second mark. Greg's view is obstructed by Arf's car. Greg slows down at the 46 second mark, but he is not able to slow down enough to avoid contact with Arf. Both cars rejoin the race after the incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h00m52s

Lap 1 – Start Line – David Rainier and Bernie are approaching the incident. David slows at the 48 second mark. He drives on the grass to the left of the flagman. Bernie is following David, but he slows one second later, and he pulls alongside David. Bernie tries to drive between Iestyn’s car and the flagman. Bernie clips Iestyn and the contact sends him into David. David is sent into the grass berm. Bernie rejoins the track effectively overtaking David while in a caution zone. David rejoins the race 2 seconds later. Iestyn performs a shift-R and Stop & Go.

Advice: Drivers have a duty to drive safely and well within their limits when they have passed a yellow flag. Drivers may not overtake any car they are racing with, until they are sure they have passed the incident.


Server replay time: 0h06m46s

Lap 4 – Abbey - Phil stayed left to allow Iestyn to pass. This puts Phil on the inside line for Abbey. Phil had to take a bit too much kerb to avoid hitting Iestyn as he swept by on the racing line. The heavy impact on the kerb pushed Phil wide and into David. David sees Phil loose control, and he drives on the grass to try to avoid, but there was a side by side contact.

In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver looses control and strays from their side of the track. Contact is made. Warning for driver that moves over.


Server replay time: 0h12m30s

Lap 8 – Stowe - Phil had inside line and Doni the outside. Phil was ahead and Doni clipped Phil's nearside rear wheel and crashes out. Phil was unaffected. There may have been some warp involved.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2015, 02:06:33 PM +0100 »

Congrats Tim, Andreas, and Dean! Looks like it was very good race for the win.

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Yeah, it was a real good race with Tim! Had a good start and wonder why lestyn was not around. So I opened a gap to something like 5 seconds. Still was wondering what happened to lestyn and had a spin.  Huh So Tim was at my back and the fun begun.  Smiley From there on it was a good battle with some lead changes until the end!
Congratulations to all finishers!

Btw.: Who ever had the idea of driving only every car for once, thats a really good idea. I really like.  Cool
 
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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2015, 08:28:03 PM +0100 »

Agreed - fantastic race with Andreas. We managed to stay on each others gearboxes for over half the race while still making space where required, lots of fun  Grin

I really love how the different setup approaches can lead to two cars having near-identical laps but massively differing strong spots around the circuit. Andreas clearly had speed on his side but my Fez stuck to the road like glue - esp through the fast turns like Woodcote.

Bernie/Jethro, I can email you my setup for Silverstone if you like - just PM me your emails Smiley
To be honest on the Papy tracks I think the defaults are pretty damn close to the setups I'd end up with. Sundays setup only involved some minor pressure and camber changes - plus the normal alterations to steering ratio, brake balence and fuel. I didn't even touch the gearing or diff for the race (Well, I did change the diff - but ended up returning it to the stock setting towards the end of practice as it made the car looser and more to my preference)
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2015, 08:48:07 PM +0100 »

Tim
I spent an hour or so pre race practice in Matra  fine tuning to what I thought was OK ,  comes time to race and wondered what happened to my setup  Huh

then realised I joined the race with the wrong car , completely forgot there was more than 1 Matra chassis ! Dohh ! too late to change back so I spent practice trying to fix things didnt even get a qually lap in

would love to try your set up not sure how to send PM's though ?
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2015, 08:51:00 PM +0100 »

One thing I did notice recently when taking the McLaren M7 to Watkins Glen was that the default setup was a Steve Cloyd set, which I think is also the case in the 66 mod. Perhaps that's why you can't get the tyres up to temp? Also, I just use 69 setups as the only difference in 69x seems to be that the grip was reduced a little, so everything else is the same as 69 (setup wise).
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2015, 10:11:57 PM +0100 »

would love to try your set up not sure how to send PM's though ?


I've sent you a PM (you should be able to see that in the blue bar above the forum)
You can either hit 'reply' once you've opened it or just click on the speech bubble under my name  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2015, 01:11:55 PM +0100 »

Moderation published. Thank you to the drivers that submitted reports and to the moderators for helping me minimize my mistakes.
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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2015, 12:17:23 PM +0100 »

great report , thanks !
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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2015, 02:58:20 PM +0100 »

Great job Walter, this wasn't the easiest race to mod!
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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2015, 10:04:56 PM +0100 »

Yeah, talk about a steep learning curve! For my part... engine blow was strange, but can happen occasionally, it's the first time you light it up to full power to get off the grid. Same happened to Greg in a Friday race the next week.

Tried to bash Esc-enter straight away but botched it... then I realised that there was a shift-r so thought I can wait until everyone passes and then continue. But there was a huge pile up and when I finally could shift-r my front landed on another car! If I was thinking quickly I could have stop-go'd straight away from the layout but I did it at the end of Lap 1 instead.

Considering a start crash at Montjuich is almost an odds on favourite.. is it time to make a longer grid? Perhaps just for 69x... I usually recommend the ukgpl 1x1 loose grids as a backup for Doni's at oAo. F1Legends and JonnyO in clandestines/GPLbrasil use longer grids.
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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2015, 08:08:51 PM +0100 »

I've copied Ronnie's question from the Montjuich thread over to here as I feel this is the better place to address it:

...does anyone know what the etiquette is for the side of the grid left behind a stricken car, just in case it happens again  laugh

From the mod report, I'd say neither you nor anyone else (in the front half of the grid) did anything really wrong (there were two further back that should have been more careful with their rejoins after avoiding the melee or getting bumped, but that's been covered). A bit more care on your part or Piero's, or an offset in the grid (so cars are not directly behind the one in front), might have helped here. There's some room at Silverstone to widen the car placements, but then that puts wheels closer to the grass (or pit barrier) so anyone getting sideways on launch has less room to recover, bringing other dangers into play.

I'd say you did the right thing, trying to avoid the non-moving car ahead while doing your best not to interfere with the other lane.

Anyone else have thoughts/comments/suggestions?
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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2015, 02:45:04 AM +0100 »

The drivers have to make a split second decision on which way to go to avoid the car in front. It might be wise to plan ahead just in case something like this happens again.

At Silverstone, the drivers on the left can take to the grass, and the drivers on the right can try to go down pit lane.   

At Monaco, maybe follow Clive's advice to wait for the car in front to move first.
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