Windows 10

[Simon Gymer]

Nvidia driver update fiasco?

I haven't tried Windows 10 in ages so this is my first place with it for a while. I simply upgraded my work machine and the windows update options look the same as always just in a new UI/style.

If you ignored the Windows Store apps in Windows 8 it was essentially the same as Windows 7 + start screen rather than start menu and charms bar instead of right click + improved explorer. The Windows 10 UI is even more confused than the Windows 8 one imho. It's the styling of it, it's half desktop half modern UI, which is even more apparently cyborg than W8 because you can now put Windows Store apps inside windows. It will however be a lot more familiar to Windows 7 users simply because it has a start menu and everything runs in a window but it looks just weird with the concoction of desktop meets touch. I'm sure I'll get used to it. The new EDGE browser is very quick it has to be said and overall the operation is quite slick.

[picnic]

Nvidia driver update fiasco?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/28/windows_10_update_nvidia_driver_conflict/

[spanner]

I will be going across but in a few months i think.

I actually have got used to W8 on my laptop as you can go desktop only basically, i havent used the tiles interface at all. Sounds like you cant go desktop only? whats the start screen? worrying.

[Simon Gymer]

Sounds like you cant go desktop only? whats the start screen? worrying.

You can use Start Menu or Start Screen (if you liked the one in Windows . The start menu is a menu with a resizable start screen integrated on the right.

You can go desktop, but some of the windows applications are now metro style, e.g. calculator. It just means some applications look weird compared to others.

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

The Windows Update stuff does have Advanced Options where you can choose to "Notify to download" rather than automatically download, just like Windows 7/8.

Can you reject a single option, and is it the Pro or Home version? The Pro one is supposed to be okay, it's the Home edition with no per-update opt-out.

[spanner]

For eons now ive only ever done the critical updates, and i've only just realised recently, wondering why i never got the W10 notification, that it recommends to install all updates!

[Simon Gymer]

Can you reject a single option, and is it the Pro or Home version? The Pro one is supposed to be okay, it's the Home edition with no per-update opt-out.

Enterprise edition.

I don't know as my settings are locked by our domain policies so I can't actually change the drop-list from "Never check for updates"!

There is a "defer upgrades" option for Enterprise too, not sure whether that's on Pro as it's "certain" editions...

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Used the downloader tool to grab ISOs for later offline use - at one point it ran out of disk space, and I was greeted with the less than entirely helpful 'error' screen:

Something happened
Something happened

Thanks, Windows...

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It's so advanced they're using telepathy, that's how you really knew to check the disk space

[Simon Gymer]

The new Microsoft EDGE browser is fast, but it's not finished imho, seems to have a lot of bugs and missing features. Its like they released it before it was finished.

Also on EDGE menus why do they insist on using triple line spacing everywhere, so something you could fit on a 3rd of the screen in the past takes up the entire screen now!

Windows 10 itself I've now got looking like a Windows 7/8 hybrid and generally seems fine. Dunno what the driver support is like or whether the Windows 8 drivers will work perfectly well on Windows 10 which is why I'm not jumping in straight away with my home machine. Quite happy to muck up my work machine, but not my home machine. LOL.

[picnic]

Careful if you've got a transfer cap on your Internet connection

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/windows_10_torrent_updates/

It's bad enough to assume everyone has high speed Internet but to, by default, steal your Internet to feed other computers must border on theft!

[Simon Gymer]

Ok, BUT, the advanced option has the option to only stream from PCs on your local network and not internet, so if you don't like it then you can change it.

It's set to "PCs on my local network" on my machine and I don't remember changing it so I guess that was the default option, so possibly some scaremongering reporting, but I honestly can't remember whether I changed that or not.

[Simon Gymer]

Ah just read why mine is set to that by default, is because it's Enterprise Edition...

Delivery Optimization is turned on by default for all editions of Windows 10, with the following differences:

- Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Education:  The PCs on your local network option is turned on by default.
- All other editions of Windows 10: The PCs on your local network and PCs on the Internet option is turned on by default.

[picnic]

It's ok if you know about but for most it will just steal their bandwidth and they'll suffer from an extra bill at the end of the month or limited bandwidth until their next billing period and they'll have no idea why they've used all their allowance.

[Simon Gymer]

True, very strange default I agree.