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December 28, 2015, 09:19:15 PM +0000 - Fuji (1965-80) - UKGTL Season 15 Christmas Special
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW M1 Procar (#40) GTC-TC-76 1 40:22.858
112.542mph
28 1:24.302
115.517mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
BMW M1 Procar (#90) GTC-TC-76 2 +14.909
111.854mph
28 1:25.469
113.940mph
Goodyear  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW M1 Procar (#77) GTC-TC-76 3 +36.610
110.867mph
28 1:25.236
114.251mph
Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
BMW M1 Procar (#50) GTC-TC-76 4 +1:07.301
109.500mph
28 1:27.463
111.342mph
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
BMW M1 Procar (#73) GTC-TC-76 5 +1:13.134
109.244mph
28 1:25.841
113.446mph
Goodyear  
55steve55
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW M1 Procar (#41) GTC-TC-76 6 +2L
101.791mph
26 1:28.174
110.444mph
Goodyear  
Ati7
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
BMW M1 Procar (#50) GTC-TC-76 7 +14L 14 1:25.245
114.239mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Jeep
 
BMW M1 Procar (#67) GTC-TC-76 8 +20L 8 1:24.889
114.718mph
suspension
Goodyear  
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GTC-TC-76
1:24.302
115.517mph
Geoffers
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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2015, 12:18:58 PM +0000 »

If you google "Error 5:Access Denied" it appears to be fixable. Looks like you need admin rights assigned to the .exe file.
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« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2015, 11:03:05 AM +0000 »

Hi guys,

I am having guests over tonight, however it seems likely that i will be able to do this race. Installed car and track ok. So i hope i can find the time to do some set-up work before the race.
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« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2015, 11:25:18 AM +0000 »

I did manage to find some time yesterday to try this car/track combination. Both are new to me so there was a a lot of learning to do. Priority was learning the track, but at the same time applying gentle tweaks to the setup as I found areas where the car was not going where, and how, I would like it to.
Gradually the two processes come together and once the track is committed to memory it is a question of finding faster lines and adapting the setup to help negotiate the corners.

This BMW procar is a bit modern for me, with so much grip it is not something that likes being thrown at a corner  Roll Eyes in a 4 wheel drift, so I suspect that I will be struggling in the race.

Anyway, as I promised I will upload the various setups that I evolved during yesterday's session to the Fuji online track list shortly. They should be listed as "Clive Procar 1, 2, 3 etc"  each an adaptation of the previous.
 This is still very much Work in Progress and I have only used the Basic setup parameters, not even loaded the "Advanced options" as I don't feel that I am anywhere near close enough to a perfect setup to start such fine tuning.

I make no apologies for the fact that these setups are made to suit my personal driving style and they may not suit everyone ( or anyone!!), but maybe by driving each version and feeling the difference that various changes have made people might gain some insight into what affects the handling and how.

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« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2015, 11:32:50 AM +0000 »

Clive, if you had the advanced setup loaded you could reduce the rear wing angle and perhaps this would allow less grip and more controlled drift?
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« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2015, 12:16:21 PM +0000 »

Hello.I do not want to download advanced setup.No problem? The car let it be beast  Wink
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« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2015, 12:24:08 PM +0000 »

Clive, if you had the advanced setup loaded you could reduce the rear wing angle and perhaps this would allow less grip and more controlled drift?

That might come in due course Tony  Wink, but I was trying to keep it simple and concentrate on getting the suspension/diff to generate the grip. TBH I was having most trouble generating front end grip at the apexes, although I think it was probably my driving that was hitting the apexes approx 10% too fast!! I never have a problem getting the rear end to slide, I appear to have a right foot made from depleted Uranium.........does that make me an alien or a mutant???


Can someone check that my files are visible? everything syas that I have uploaded the setups to Fuji online, but ....well you all know my abilities with technology!!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2015, 12:52:00 PM +0000 »

[Can someone check that my files are visible? everything syas that I have uploaded the setups to Fuji online, but ....well you all know my abilities with technology!!  Roll Eyes

Yes I can see them, As you have suggested previously, a bit "pointy" I can't drive them at all although undoubtedly a lot faster them my creations I'm sure.

Continuing with my Stupid questions...

Cars allowed: BMW M1 Procar Download this Any version

Does this mean GTO and GR4 included  (Any version of BMW M1) or only Procar?

I think it's obvious but I do hope to make this and don't want to screw up.

Thanks in advance

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« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2015, 12:59:45 PM +0000 »

Hello.I do not want to download advanced setup.No problem? The car let it be beast  Wink
No problem
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« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2015, 04:06:12 PM +0000 »

I will not use advanced setup never, i prefer use original.
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« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2015, 04:33:44 PM +0000 »

I will not use advanced setup never, i prefer use original.
As you wish, np.
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« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2015, 09:03:00 PM +0000 »

Sorry - couldn't join - game crashed when loading the track - tried all three M1's  Sad Huh

Have fun guys  - and thanks to Tony and all involved for another great season!
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« Reply #41 on: December 28, 2015, 09:29:02 PM +0000 »

Couldn't make it either.  Took my daughter & family to the airport and we are having a good snow storm.  They had to de-ice the plane and were short of equipment so about an hour late for takeoff.  By that time the roads were bad and a 45minute drive took over 2 hrs.
Wanted to check out the  Procars.  Will have to watch the videos...

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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2015, 12:36:59 AM +0000 »

Replay and results for this race posted
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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2015, 12:41:20 AM +0000 »

I may be to blame for some drivers not being to enter the race tonight  Embarrassed

We recently had a revised version of the cars. And although I noted this in the upcoming race series post's I omitted to mention it here  nono

Drivers who could not get in....please check if your version of the Procars is 1.7.
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« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2015, 01:28:23 AM +0000 »

Somewhat frustrated to realise only at qual, that all versions of the M1 was allowed (this assuming the Procar one is the slowest of the bunch)  Had not noticed the 'All versions' next to Tony's link - or not made the connection, as car was named M1 Procar in the race announcement.  For once I didn't ask Tony about the versions, as it didn't even dawn on me (or is it the track versions I usually pester you with ?  Wink)

Random grid gave me a lucky front row position.  Managed to squeeze into the lead at the first corners.  Didn't last long until 3 cars passed me, when I went a bit wide in a corner.  Some laps in 4th followed, but then within 2 corners, first one and then a second dust cloud, meant I was suddenly in 2nd!

Remained there for quite a few laps. The long straight didn't have any natural brake markers. The arrow/distance signs were too late, so I had picked a subtle blotch on the tarmac instead.  Very easy to miss, which I of course did eventually. Ran into the gravel and hit the wall.  My shadow some 3 secs behind; Clive made it past before I could rejoin. 

Car was damaged after the impact; steering was lighter and it didn't track straight anymore.  As if this wasn't enough, any hopes of staying with Clive was quashed when I missed that braking point again.  No more damage, but lots of time lost.  In my own lonely bubble then.  Found out the steering damage combined with tyre wear above 7 was a poisonous cocktail.  Any attempt at shedding speed while not going straight, would have the rear kick out.  Spun and nearly spun several times because of this, but thankfully had enough gap to retain 3rd to the end.

Grats to Clive and Geoffers (I think).  Commiserations to Matt and anyone else who couldn't join.

Just realised that the F1 race is already on Wednesday.  Haven't even gotten the special install made, so probably will have to give it a miss  :'(   Am working this week, so only have tomorrow night to get everything running, car selected and practice done.  Don't think that's realistic with something this different.

Cheers,
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