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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2015, 11:45:48 PM +0100 » |
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Grip is quite a challenge to get right.. Because not only do we have % but also airtemp plays a role now.
In testing 100% grip was considered realistic grip and the weather was set to clear and 26 ambient. Between 12:00 and 15:00 gives the most grip, earlier or later times in the day see lower tenps so not as much grip.
You can have 100% grip but 5 ambient and it will be slippy.
Personally. I would just leave it at 100% and just change the time and/or the ambient to alter the grip levels.. Unless you change weather to foggy etc then you can lower the % to suit.
Honestly, i would get rid of dynamic track changes too, waste of time imo.
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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2015, 10:24:10 AM +0100 » |
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Interesting reading, thanks Chris. Must admit I quite like the dynamic track rubbering in, why do you think it's not worth having? Re, time of day, only reason we set in later in the day sometimes is to get a nicer bit of ambient lighting I think, have done p&g races in the past when a setting sun looks superb on the grid. I did a gt3 race at spa a few weeks ago and it was set to light fog and got to say it looked very atmospheric
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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2015, 10:54:17 AM +0100 » |
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I like the concept, but its too much if a hassle to get right, it doesnt rubber in realistically unless you spend a lot if time testing it out and even then if one person or 2 drops out its going to change the outcome.. It needs more work on kunos' side, until they implement what irAcing has done its always just going to be a gimick. Ontop of that with the new way the tyre heat up it can take 2/3 laps before your tyres are even at 100% grip, add that into the mix of changing track conditions and there is quite a lot to think about.
The only reason i say dont bother i because it takes too much time to get right.. There is nothing wrong with different grip levels say if its foggy or cloudy etc but for just having a 30 min race, id just leave it out personally..
I have just done exactly that in my next wed race, its foggy so ive set the grip to 98% and turned dynamic track off.. The way i set it up is as follows.. Randomly pick the weather.. Heavy fog 97%, light fog 98%, heavy and light cloud 99% and everything else 100%, then the time of day is randomised and that itself alters the grip levels.. Because dynamic track is turned off each combo will be different to drive, it adds into it an unknown factor, a challenge... Sure some days it might be 18:00 and the sun so low you cnt see some braking or turning in points... Some other days it will be heavy fog and early morning, its going to be slippy and chances are these weathers and times will fall onto a bloody hard to drive car, but then thats just sods law i guess lol.
Its not my season, so its not down to me, ive done it on mine because i think it adds more than what dynamic track has done in all the races ive done with it on. I think there are ways to make dynamic track work better and i might dabble with that at a later.
You choose what you enjoy... Listen to what people say but dont try please anyone but you, if you like it..then leave it as it is.
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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2015, 11:02:44 AM +0100 » |
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Race night gents Make this your view tonight Unless your an alien, as there will be less cars ahead of you
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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2015, 11:48:53 AM +0100 » |
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Unless your an alien, as there will be less cars ahead of you Or dog slow like me so everyone's driven away from you
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« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2015, 11:55:31 AM +0100 » |
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I'd rather drive from the drivers seat
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« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2015, 12:15:13 PM +0100 » |
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I'd rather drive from the drivers seat I was thinking the same thing . If there is a stationary car on the grid when the lights go out, it's somebody who listened to MJ's advice.
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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2015, 05:43:51 PM +0100 » |
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I tried downloading this but I get "The file you’re looking for has been moved or deleted."
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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2015, 07:12:44 PM +0100 » |
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I tried downloading this but I get "The file you’re looking for has been moved or deleted." Hmm, had a look it's still in there, give me 5 mins and will post a new link to it. here you go Sharky (also post 1 updated with skin link) https://www.dropbox.com/s/baj1zjazybfaj4q/skins.rar?dl=0
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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2015, 07:16:43 PM +0100 » |
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Server up for bookings
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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2015, 07:19:45 PM +0100 » |
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« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2015, 07:57:56 PM +0100 » |
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Qually is down as 1 minute !!!!
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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2015, 08:06:52 PM +0100 » |
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Qually is down as 1 minute !!!! You'd better be quick out the pits then. ?
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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2015, 08:21:03 PM +0100 » |
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Sorry people - I blame whoever kept on jumping on the server while I was trying to set it up
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