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  • Endurance S2R7 - Anderstorp: April 09, 2006
April 09, 2006, 09:17:38 PM +0100 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Endurance Season 2
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CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 1 1:24.436
106.273mph
1 1:20:44.319
100.026mph
54 1:25.337
105.151mph
Michelin  
D Boyd
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 3 +1.049
104.969mph
2 +45.496
99.095mph
54 1:26.358
103.908mph
Michelin  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 4 +1.201
104.783mph
3 +54.162
98.920mph
54 1:26.240
104.050mph
Michelin  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 6 +1.489
104.432mph
4 +55.528
98.892mph
54 1:26.743
103.447mph
Michelin  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 2 +1.008
105.020mph
5 (+2) +1:30.558
98.190mph
54 1:26.642
103.567mph
Dunlop  
Krueger
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 7 +1.850
103.995mph
6 +1L
97.942mph
53 1:27.239
102.859mph
Pirelli  
Nakano_56
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 10 +2.292
103.465mph
7 +15.192
97.637mph
53 1:27.634
102.395mph
Dunlop  
Zacari
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 5 +1.384
104.559mph
8 +1:01.970
96.708mph
53 1:26.748
103.441mph
Michelin  
SpaceFox
 CBFR
Saleen S7-R GT1 8 +1.965
103.856mph
9 +2L
95.011mph
52 1:27.957
102.019mph
Dunlop  
whitham69
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 9 +2.080
103.718mph
10 (+2) +4L
91.369mph
50 1:28.937
100.895mph
Michelin  
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 16 +8.256
96.808mph
11 +18.277
91.030mph
50 1:33.241
96.238mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +6.603
98.565mph
12 50 1:32.358
97.158mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 15 +8.052
97.021mph
13 +5L
90.088mph
49 1:33.695
95.771mph
Pirelli  
Bernie Lomax
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +7.316
97.799mph
14 +56.724
89.053mph
49 1:34.903
94.552mph
Pirelli  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +11.499
93.535mph
15 +6L
88.070mph
48 1:36.766
92.732mph
Pirelli  
Nick Phillips
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R NGT 17 +8.333
96.727mph
16 +7L 47 1:33.780
95.685mph
fuel
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 18 +8.481
96.573mph
17 +9L
83.328mph
45 1:34.173
95.285mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +6.575
98.596mph
18 45 1:32.224
97.299mph
engine
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 13 +6.779
98.375mph
19 +11L 43 1:32.759
96.738mph
unknown
Dunlop  
maverick
 Team Shark
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 19 +9.606
95.418mph
20 +41L 13 1:36.445
93.041mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 20 +9.764
95.258mph
21 +43L 11 1:34.599
94.856mph
suspension
Pirelli  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 393s

JonM_UK has lot a position to D Boyd in turn 2. He tries to get his position back and punts D Boyd off while trying. JonM_UK thought D Boyd knew he was next to him but unfortunately he didn't. D Boyd still was in front of JonM_UK at the turn in point.

  • JonM_ukpenalty — contact with D Boyd — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 816s

In the lap before the incident Spacefox had been passed by Zacari. At the last corner Zacari makes a mistake and is being passed by Spacefox again. They drive alongside at the main straight. Spacefox brakes a little later than Zacari, getting a car's length in front and turning right in front of Zacari.

Zacari explains he was unable to see Spacefox until they gets into the corner. The onboard cam confirms this.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 2922s

Whitham69 approaching Ginsters fast at the main straight. When they get to the first corner he makes a passing attempt, locks his brakes and runs straight into Ginsters. As Ginsters was well in front at corner entry he would have hit Zacari soon or later.

  • whitham69penalty — contact with Zacari — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 4836s

At the fron straight D Boyd approaches Bernie Lomax and just taps him at the right rear. D Boyd later explained he thought Bernie was letting him pass. In fact Bernie was just following the racing line.

The incident was not reported by the victim so the given penalty is for info only.

  • D Boyd (D Boyd (VdrSain))penalty — contact with Bernie Lomax — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 4862s

Zacari just went off in turn 2. When he rejoins and turns into turn 2 he just spins out when he stops spinning his car is facing the wrong direction. D Boyd, who can't judge where Zacari will end up, approaches and can't avoid him anymore. A little while after that the same happens to Popabawa. After this Whitahm69 approaches and runs into Popabawa.

When D boyd was approaching Zacari still was moving, so he couldn't judge the situation. At the time Popabawa approached Zacari's car was stationary. When looking from the onboard camera view Zacari already visible from turn 2.

Whitham69 could not do much to avoid Popabawa. He already slowed down. Popabawa's car still was moving and according to Whitham69's report there was a lot of debris on the track.

Please take care while approaching an incident as it is difficult to judge the situation at high speed. At brake a little until you are sure you can pass safely.

  • popabawaadvice — slow down when you approach an incident
  • popabawacaution — lack of care while approaching an incident

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1:24.436
106.273mph
CeeJay
Qualifying
Ferrari 550 MaranelloApril 09, 2006, 09:17:38 PM +0100
UE2
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GT1
1:25.337
105.151mph
CeeJay
Race
Ferrari 550 MaranelloApril 09, 2006, 09:17:38 PM +0100
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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2006, 10:59:59 PM +0100 »

Wow. That was a hell of a race.

Qualified in 2nd with virtually nothing between me, Shark and SBG.

Spent the first half of the race just about managing to stay with Shark until he clipped the kerb and I squeeezed through. Then spent a horrible 10 mnutes or so with him glued to my tail with me praying not to make a mistake.

Thankfully I had a smooth pitstop and expected to see Shark sneak out ahead of me but the stupid game ruined that by screwing up Shark's pit-stop Angry

I was about 18s up on Shark when I seemed to hit the worst traffic of the race and saw my lead coming down by more than 1s per lap until it was about 8s. Then Shark just disappeared and I saw him in the pits. Unlucky Shark, I think you would have had me but I'm not that disappointed I didn't get to find out  Tongue

I thought I was cruising to the NGT win when on the last lap I ran into the aftermath of an acident ahead of me and lost my splitter and got a puncture, then got moored on a kerb unable to move, I hit 'escape' in utter dispair but I think the game placed me 1st anyway as I'd lapped the other NGT's. Fingers crossed!  Undecided

Well done to Don on his 2nd place, an NGTL 1-2, that's not going to happen again soon!  euro

[EDIT] Well, the results are uploaded and it looks like Don won it and I was 2nd.
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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2006, 11:04:59 PM +0100 »

Replay and provisional results are up Smiley

Appolgies for the mess starting the server, now I wonder which window I typed that password into  Embarrassed Obviously the wrong one!
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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2006, 11:05:19 PM +0100 »

I was truly gifted 2nd NGt with Shark and SBG retirements. I was a lap down to their pace and never would of had a chance to threaten for a top spot, but luck was my Lady tonight Shocked Grin and I will take it(almost) anyway I can get it.

Great drive from Pops and a long over due 1st.
(ps, an apology to jon for not moving over sooner, sry)
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« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2006, 11:23:19 PM +0100 »

I was about 18s up on Shark when I seemed to hit the worst traffic of the race and saw my lead coming down by more than 1s per lap until it was about 8s. Then Shark just disappeared and I saw him in the pits. Unlucky Shark, I think you would have had me but I'm not that disappointed I didn't get to find out  Tongue

Not sure. Wasn't going to be easy to overtake as we were very evenly matched. I was more miffed that we didn't get to battle it out more than losing out on a potential win.

I thought I was cruising to the NGT win when on the last lap I ran into the aftermath of an acident ahead of me and lost my splitter and got a puncture, then got moored on a kerb unable to move, I hit 'escape' in utter dispair but I think the game placed me 1st anyway as I'd lapped the other NGT's. Fingers crossed!  Undecided

Well done to Don on his 2nd place, an NGTL 1-2, that's not going to happen again soon!  euro

[EDIT] Well, the results are uploaded and it looks like Don won it and I was 2nd.

I decided to watch you till the end. Couldn't believe it when you ploughed into a big accident. However, I saw that CJ had already finished and i was dieing to type into the chat window "you can press ESC and still win Pops" as you were a lap ahead of anyone else from the timings. Don't think Don did win it, might be something wrong with the timings from the exports as I'm fairly sure Don was a lap behind, but might be wrong. Certainly he was an extra + lap on the timings in the monitor, but that might have been cause CJ had gone past him an extra time but not you, but that would mean that he had to have finished a lap behind you. Oh not sure, pretty sure you won Pops. Need to closely look at the results as you were still listed at the top of the NGT finishers in the monitor even after Don had finished.
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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2006, 11:24:37 PM +0100 »

After going to the controller screen and seeing about 5% brake on and max braking at less than 100% I may need new pedals Sad I hope the controller thing isn't some sort of Team Shark curse! Tongue Wink

Me too! Shocked

Perhaps it's the gods telling us to buy Speed7 pedals to get the advantage back from all those peeps that have them and have caught up. 
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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2006, 11:28:45 PM +0100 »

 
Me too! Shocked

Perhaps it's the gods telling us to buy Speed7 pedals to get the advantage back from all those peeps that have them and have caught up.

Mmmm maybe I should listen! Grin punk
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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2006, 11:29:33 PM +0100 »

Np Nick, though I was surprised you went in the inside as I left plenty of room on the outside - I saw you were faster in a mosler, so I didn't wanna hold you back. Well... Undecided

Anyway, made a mess outta race, spinned 3 times I think before the pitstop. Even managed to put Jon out (not a happy Penguin day  Embarrassed ) for a second but luckily he managed to climb outta sand and race on. After pitstop Bernie had 43 seconds lead but I think he went non-stop (Bernie?) and was losing 2 seconds per lap which I was able to use to clamber ahead of him two laps before end. Sorry Bernie, you should have pitted (right Mark?  Tongue ).

I was lapped a lot of times by GTs (and once by NGT Shark which I clumsily botched, sorry. I just now see a big difference between lapping GTs and NGTs - not used to be lapped by NGT). I think I was lapped by Spacefox more times than by Claus. It seemed every time Spacefox lapped me he went into the sand - and I don't think it was my fault.  Roll Eyes
My point is, I really lost a load of time by having to let GTs by. 2, 3 or more seconds per lap. Really ruins a direct duel (or it makes it more exciting, depends on the personal view I guess). Ah, the joy of dynamic racing.
I was very surprised to have a third place, totaly undeserved - too bad Shark and SBG.
Grats to Don and/or Popabawa   and, of course, Mr. Claus  rockon
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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2006, 11:40:35 PM +0100 »

Yeah fair point Truetom, but guess a lack of experience made me go that way.
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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2006, 12:02:55 AM +0100 »

Has anyone tried the replacement Logitech Formula Force GP wheel/pedals?
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/GB/EN,CRID=2217,CONTENTID=11066
(Logitech Formula Force EX)

Has a lot more buttons than the old one and it's still dirt cheap. The pedals on the old one didn't have anything like enough travel in them to make them really good for precise pedal controller, don't know which pedals they are using for the new one.

The old wheel still to this day is working for me (and I've had it for a very long time, although for the past couple of years as a backup). It doesn't have quite as much lock as the Momo, but it's pretty smooth, very small, ok force feedback (again not as good as Momo) and still feels solid. No creaking and clunking like the Momo has.
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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2006, 12:36:46 AM +0100 »

Well that was awful for me. choose to run the lambo which i used allot in the past lol. Had a small spill of track on first lap caught up with the pop/shark battle and was a little nervous about overtaking them both. Did it show guys Wink. Got past in the end and manage to drop the gap to the next car from 37sec to 15 then got beached on the kerb for what felt like a week, nearly quit but just managed to get it back on track using 6th gear flat out, then had tyre warning at next corner. Had to do the next 15 with shagged tyres until I emptied the tank enough to do a one stopper. was in 16th catching the NGT slowly until I hit SBG on turn one sry mate Embarrassed. had to do a drive through and had to try to pass the NGT cars again. Got caught up in 2 incident which caused a 3 car pill up, by that point all I could was laugh and hope the timer would reach zero.

For those that won well done.  Smiley

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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2006, 07:19:01 AM +0100 »


Great drive from Pops and a long over due 1st.
(ps, an apology to jon for not moving over sooner, sry)


Hey Don,
 No worries mate, I don't think you should've moved over before anyway. I just got the the car in the wrong place and lost control Sad so was my own fault Grin
Big Apologies to Bernie Lomax mind. I got confused on lapping and thought Bernie was going to move one way but didn't. Sorry Bernie Sad
Damn work's calling now. Full report on my many spins to follow. Grats to Don and CJ on Victory!!!
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2006, 07:43:23 AM +0100 »

Well, the results are uploaded and it looks like Don won it and I was 2nd.

Because Don finished the full race time and Pops didn't, GTR didn't record a finishing time for the latter, only a number of laps complete, so Don ends up ranked ahead. It's not the first time it's happened but I think it is the first time it's happened in a class win situation.
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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2006, 08:13:57 AM +0100 »

Well, the results are uploaded and it looks like Don won it and I was 2nd.

Because Don finished the full race time and Pops didn't, GTR didn't record a finishing time for the latter, only a number of laps complete, so Don ends up ranked ahead. It's not the first time it's happened but I think it is the first time it's happened in a class win situation.

Can the result be reviewed Dave? I can see what's happened but it doesn't seem right.

I'd completed 50 laps and was on my 51st when I crashed. Don unlapped himself to complete his 50th lap but that still means I was half a lap ahead when the race finished and I'd already completed my 50th lap ahead of Don.
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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2006, 08:35:50 AM +0100 »

Can the result be reviewed Dave? I can see what's happened but it doesn't seem right.

The problem I have is that the positions as stored in the exports aren't reliable (if somebody drops out before the end the position recorded is their position at the time, not the final position), so I have to use the number of laps complete and race time and work the positions out from them. I could manually enter the final race time by extrapolating it from the replay but I'm loathe to go down that route because once manual intervention slips into the process we introduce a big grey area.

I know it must seem harsh but the results have to be measured in a consistent way - and finishing races is what endurance racing is about.
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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2006, 08:36:41 AM +0100 »

OK, cheers Dave.
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