Endurance Championship - Season 2, Round 7, Anderstorp - Apr 9

[ginsters sponsored]

until I hit SBG on turn one sry mate .

Thank you Whits. Livid at the time but I'll get over it, after all its "only a bloody game" [Mrs.SBG April 2006]. With everybody suffering in one way or another, the championship is shaping up nicely.   

Shark, any clues about disappearing arrow in pit lane? As far as I could see nobody had pinched my space.

[Don]

Can the result be reviewed Dave? I can see what's happened but it doesn't seem right.

The problem I have is that the positions as stored in the exports aren't reliable (if somebody drops out before the end the position recorded is their position at the time, not the final position), so I have to use the number of laps complete and race time and work the positions out from them. I could manually enter the final race time by extrapolating it from the replay but I'm loathe to go down that route because once manual intervention slips into the process we introduce a big grey area.

I know it must seem harsh but the results have to be measured in a consistent way - and finishing races is what endurance racing is about.

Seems a little harsh when Pops was a lap up on me?

[Paul968]

Surely this is a rare enough situation for it to be dealt with as a special case. If you make it clear that drivers need to appeal against the results if a) they are wrong and b) they finished in the last few laps, then you will probably only have to act on a handful of occasions. This has to be better than telling a driver his efforts over 80 minutes were wasted doesn't it?

[whitham69]

Surely this is a rare enough situation for it to be dealt with as a special case. If you make it clear that drivers need to appeal against the results if a) they are wrong and b) they finished in the last few laps, then you will probably only have to act on a handful of occasions. This has to be better than telling a driver his efforts over 80 minutes were wasted doesn't it?

We had this on TPG. We also had to make the choice. one driver was unhappy as he DNF on the last lap the other driver unhappy because they got beat by a driver who DNF. We came to the conclusion that if both drivers are on the same lap at the end the winner has to be the one still on track as the race is done lap by lap and not by position on the track during the last lap. TBH it a 50/50 call.

[Zacari]

Sorry Pops I didn't even realise it was you until I looked at the replay, I rejoined safely enough but as soon as i dabbed the brake it spun and sat right on the line of the corner, after that I just couldn't get out of the way fast enough.

I'd say this was a game bug rather than human intervention Dave.  Pops ran the same distance as Don in a quicker time, what can matter other than that?

[Paul968]

To quote the FIA GT championship regulations:

'The car placed first will be the one having covered the scheduled distance in the shortest time. All cars will be classified taking into account the number of complete laps they have covered, and for those that have completed the same number of laps, the order in which they cross the line.'

On this basis, Popa would be classified ahead of Don.

[Simon Gymer]

Pops should be ahead of Don. I think the results need editing to give Pops the win. He had completed more of the race than Don and was in the lead on an extra lap over Don when a large incident occured (which should be reviewed btw, so please someone report it officially of those involved). On the final lap he was ahead of Don by a lap therefore he won, plain and simple. GTR results are wrong cause of the special circumstances, we have to edit that so it's right.

What you could do to make it simpler is add 1 lap to Pops in the results export and re-enter them, that way you don't have to edit the code or fiddle with things.

[Mark J]

How refreshing to read posts like these, kudos gentlemen, very sporting on someones else behalf. 


Still gutted i missed this race, even though i dislike Anderstorp. :'(

[ginsters sponsored]

Perhaps we should race it again? 

[Truetom]

God forbid, I'd never be 3rd again! 

Seems an awkward position, whatever is done. 

[Don]

God forbid, I'd never be 3rd again! 

Seems an awkward position, whatever is done. 

Me and Pops are fine with it,(heaven forbid I get into trouble for writing it) He won and I was second

[Aagramn]

What you could do to make it simpler is add 1 lap to Pops in the results export and re-enter them, that way you don't have to edit the code or fiddle with things.

Could be worth a try.

[Rich_A]

Grats to Claus and Pops ..

1m24.4 in quali is excellent, I think that pritty much wraps up the GT drivers Championship.

I wasn't too well prepared for this race, had to put new motherboard in on Saturday. Managed to roughly equal PB in quali but i'm using completely different setups from a few months back so taking some time fine tuning them and re-learning what it can and can't do on the track.

Was an interesting race, had you Darin make nice pass on me - I figured I was bit off pace so not worth fighting. Had a clean run except for an off over the bank at turn 1 which took me onto pit road exit. Didn't loose too much time but think it cost me perhaps third not sure.

I was testing .plr tweak .. this line

Race Stint Offset="1" // Offset each scheduled pitstop in case you want to carry extra fuel

Set to 1 means that fuel left in tank at pit stop is taken into acount from pit stop strategy. i.e if you set 56L for pit stop 1 before starting race and come into pit with 12L left in tank, then this .plr setting on 1 will fill tank up to 56L rather than 56L + 12L = 68L. So if you work out your fuel consumption manually it's possible to work out exactly how much fuel is needed for entire race.

Combined with the race stint offset setting enabled it works very well. I had 5L left after this race.

[Truetom]

NGT is much less complicated for 80 min race. 

[Krueger]

Well , another difficult race with F575 behind ... Tried to be consistent coz it's the only way to get any results with this car , but after 50 laps work , a small misunderstanding with an NGT car in turn 2 ment that it was all over again.  Havent really been enjoying my season with 575 sofar , but it's definetely a challenge , that's for sure...

Cya in 2 weeks , cant join the next one , since i have other duties when next UKGTR race is driven.

Thx for the race , cya...