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November 22, 2015, 10:37:03 PM +0000 - East London - UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) UKGPL 69 Extra Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.364
113.625mph
1 44:12.275
112.222mph
34 1:17.050
113.618mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 4 +0.806
112.977mph
2 +7.745
111.896mph
34 1:17.128
113.503mph
Dunlop  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:16.681
114.165mph
3 +12.831
111.682mph
34 1:17.003
113.687mph
Dunlop  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 3 +0.392
113.584mph
4 +57.595
109.837mph
34 1:17.478
112.990mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Matra MS10 F1 1969 8 +2.347
110.774mph
5 +1:15.314
109.124mph
34 1:19.003
110.809mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 9 +2.560
110.476mph
6 +1L
108.501mph
33 1:19.508
110.105mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 5 +1.788
111.563mph
7 +2.766
108.388mph
33 1:18.496
111.525mph
Dunlop  
Piero Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS84 F1 1969 6 +1.803
111.542mph
8 +24.723
107.502mph
33 1:19.442
110.197mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 11 +3.847
108.711mph
9 +41.079
106.852mph
33 1:19.964
109.478mph
Dunlop  
Marco Mercaldo
 Squadra Padova Corse
Matra MS84 F1 1969 10 +2.865
110.053mph
10 (+2) +2L
104.620mph
32 1:20.426
108.849mph
Dunlop  
bagrupp
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 13 +4.135
108.323mph
11 +19.394
103.867mph
32 1:21.218
107.787mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T86b F1 1969 15 +5.455
106.583mph
12 +21.388
103.791mph
32 1:21.818
106.997mph
Dunlop  
Ronnie Nilsson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS10 F1 1969 14 +4.381
107.995mph
13 +3L
102.292mph
31 1:20.955
108.137mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 12 +4.072
108.408mph
14 +11L
103.177mph
23 1:21.482
107.438mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 7 +1.979
111.292mph
15 +18L
107.507mph
16 1:18.896
110.960mph
Disco
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
McLaren M9A F1 1969 16 +24.862
86.212mph
16 +23L
92.725mph
11 1:24.691
103.367mph
unknown
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T86b F1 1969 17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
60fps UKGPL8
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 17 18 ---
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Dunlop  

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SUMMARY
A fairly clean race this time with only one reported incident.


Server replay time: 0h10m57s

Lap 8 - Cocabana - Bastian Grupp and Marco Mercaldo
Marco has been following Bastian for a while but hasn\'t managed to get close enough to mount a challenge for the position. Bastian has been held up by a slower car through Rifle Bend and the gap back to Marco has been reduced. Marco tries to capitalise on the reduced gap and attempts to overtake on the entry to Cocabana. Contact is made and both cars spin off. Fortunately both cars can continue with no apparent damage.

Bastian did nothing wrong.

Marco didn\'t have any overlap at all at turn-in (replay time 0h10m56s). Consequently Marco has to take responsibility for the incident.

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« on: November 16, 2015, 01:01:44 PM +0000 »

Season 29 - CHAMPIONSHIP 69X  : ROUND 4 – EAST LONDON

For Round 4 we will race in East London.
East London track is almost flat but still has a several challenging corners. Not a Papyrus original but one of our regular add on tracks.

After 3 races, Tim is leading the championship followed by Andreas and Ronnie. …but we are waiting for Silverstone race moderation.
The race will be run under INT rules and you can do one Shift+r  (only one) followed by a stop and go in the pits (Stop and Go must be taken within two laps of the incident unless on the last lap when a time penalty will be added).

We will use the patch : 60fpsV1.



Race List =   IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = look at IGOR
Race date = 22-11-2015
Qualification Time   = ~21:00  UK time -> 30min
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track = eastlndn
Variant = 69X
60fps patch used = 60fpsV1
Damage Model = INT
Race length = 34 laps
Replay = you will get here

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only, including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

and remember :

Drivers will have a free car choice
BUT
Each car can be driven only once in this season!


Moderation : no more red zone, only reported incidents will be moderated.

Have FUN …but please, be cautious during the first turn and the first lap (Remember Rouen and Silverstone)  !
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 01:31:13 PM +0000 »

Racers should not use the following cars (already used) :

Driver                  SPA                 ROUEN                   SILVERSTONE
Ronnie Peterson   Ferrari 312                                      Matra MS10   
Andreas Gebhardt   Matra MS80       Matra MS84            Lotus 49B
FullMetalGasket    McLaren M9A     BRM P126                Ferrari 312
Doni Yourth         Lotus 49b          BRM P126                 Lotus63
Axel Cookie         Lotus 49b          Ferrari 312               Mc Laren M7
Dean Logan         Matra MS80       Lotus 49b                 Mc Laren M7
Samb                 McLaren M9A     Matra MS80              BRM P126 
Rainier                McLaren M9A    BRM P126                 Mc Laren M7
Marco Mercaldo    McLaren M9A     Brabham BT26          Matra MS10   
philippe GIRARD   Ferrari 312        Lotus 63                  Mc Laren M7
Ronnie Nilsson     Lotus 49            Lotus 49b                Mc Laren M7
dave curtis          Lotus 49           Matra MS84              Matra MS10   
bernie                Brabham BT24   Brabham BT26          Matra MS80   
GregT                Ferrari 312        Matra MS10              BRM P126 
bagrupp             Lotus 49b          Brabham BT26          Mc Laren M7
Baab                  McLaren M9A
Piero Mercaldo    McLaren M9A     Brabham BT26           Matra MS10   
Tom Van Ostade                        BRM P126                 Ferrari 312
Francesco Molteni                      Mc Laren M7              Brabham BT26
Evil Clive                                  BRM P126                 Lotus 49B
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2015, 10:25:59 PM +0000 »

Ach, I'm using this one to drive a real dog - I just can't decide which is better: the Lotus 63 or the BRM.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2015, 10:56:54 PM +0000 »

The BRM isn't such bad, it is just a little slower than the 312 Wink

The Lotus 63, Matra64 and McL9a are 4WD without the frontwheels connected, what makes them heavy and slow in acceleration.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 10:35:29 AM +0000 »

The Lotus 63, Matra64 and McL9a are 4WD without the frontwheels connected, what makes them heavy and slow in acceleration.

No problem there ,  Ronnie has loads of practise driving with 2 wheels   Grin
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 11:14:11 AM +0000 »

The best choice will be a car enough robust to survive to the crashs at T1 and T2 on 1st lap ...  Roll Eyes   Grin
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2015, 12:58:37 PM +0000 »

I can't see the Sherman Tank option anywhere David?  Roll Eyes

I think the only tactic for this race is to qualify on pole and make a brilliant start, so that you are clear of the pack for the first lap...OR... forget quali, and start slowly at the back of the grid, leaving enough space ahead to watch the crashfests and avoid them.

The problem being..that if everyone decides to start at the back of the grid we will all be there??!!! Can we all start on the back row??
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2015, 01:28:39 PM +0000 »

I have decided...

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 10:31:36 PM +0000 »

OK I lied - both of those cars are so bad at corners, I can't drive them here. Will save the BRM for Monza 10K !
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2015, 04:34:05 PM +0000 »

I've got a medical problem. It may be a while before I can race again.

I worried about all the things mentioned above, before the last race. I finally settled on: qualify as usual, be very careful at the start and try to leave some room for others. It worked somewhat. I wasn't quite able to avoid giving Sam a little bump though. Watch TvO's start at Silverstone to see some excellent patience and care.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2015, 10:12:36 PM +0000 »

Sorry Sam Blood ,in my mirror i have seen only one car.Anyway,after this,the second engine explosion end my race.
Happy to see that you did have not serious damage.
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2015, 10:34:42 PM +0000 »

As in the other thread. Hope you get well soon Greg  Smiley.

No worries Fran, these kind of things happen in racing. I was a bit cheeky squeezing you for the apex as I was keen on staying as close to Tommie as possible. I only lost one position to Dean after recovery so not a huge amount lost  Smiley. Though I was keeping Tommie honest throughout the race after he passed me, I was struggling to think of how on earth I was actually going to pass him. It is a tricky track to overtake at this one.

Nevertheless great fun racing with Tommie and Dean. Managed to bag another Pole and 3rd place at the end of it all, just hope I can convert one of those into a win sooner or later.
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2015, 11:28:39 PM +0000 »

I hope you get well soon Greg!

It's great to have another win, and on a track I like, too! Sam, Dean and Bob gave me tough opposition though! I was lucky to be quite comfortable on the brakes and when Sam left the door ajar I could take advantage of it to claim first! Sam was right on my tail the entire way though.

On a less enthusiastic note, some of the backmarkers were having a hard time not interfering with the people who were lapping them. I realize this is a tight track and the 69's are fast, but still, there are some basic principles which were just not followed. For instance, if you are being lapped, move over. I saw some people stay on the racing line and reduce their speed. Never stay on the racing line and lift off to let someone past. It's just a basic racing thing. Some of the backmarkers were also a bit late spotting us (the front group), but maybe that's just the nature of the track. If you are a backmarker and notice the fast guys quite late, stay calm and just continue racing as usual until a straight comes up and you can move off line. If you try to brake later because fast guys are behind, your lines become warped and you transform into a bit of a moving target to overtake / lap. If you get spooked regardless, take to the grass as a last resort. Most of the time, the speed difference between those lapping and being lapped is not actually that big, it's just when the person being lapped gets nervous and starts behaving erraticly that speed differences get bigger and the chance of something happening gets higher. Bottom line, move over on the next straight and not in the middle of the corner, and never lift off when you're on the racing line Smiley .

Other than that, great stuff! It was cool to see the entire field getting through the first lap without major incident Smiley Smiley .

Sam ,you were just 4 thousands of a second short of taking over the race lap record from Clive Cheesy .
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2015, 01:24:59 PM +0000 »

Get well soon Greg. thumbup1

Grats to Tommie and the podium places
Without any practice for this race ( a bit of a lame excuse really, coz we have used this track often enough for me to know it!) I opted to use one of the non-winged cars and drove the Cooper for the first time ever. It took a while to get the setup sorted so that I could use that wonderful V12 Mazza engine, but giving away 6 seconds a lap to the quick cars was never going to be good was it?

I was basically dicing with the tail enders and their wings, but quite pleased not to finish dead last.

I think that there is only one overtaking spot on this track and that is into T2 hairpin, and even there you need to be very brave on the brakes, so defending a place is relatively easy if you have a fast enough car around the rest of the track.
I was quite surprised how quickly the front pack came around to lap us tail enders, you guys were really motoring. It was interesting to see just where the winged wonders were gaining so much time and it looked like it was under braking and initial grunt/grip out of the corners.

@ Tommie
In the guidelines for UKGPL regarding being lapped the advice is to STAY on the racing line and make no sudden moves to get out of the way, but ease off on the next available straight to allow the pass to take place smoothly. It is the passing cars responsibility to make a safe pass, but the driver being lapped has an obligation to make that pass as easy as is possible.
Having said that I do try to be aware of cars coming from behind, and Prib is invaluable for that if you are using it. Sometimes I find that it is actually easier to leave the apex of the corner clear for the passing car PROVIDED THAT YOU SEE THEM EARLY ENOUGH and make your intentions clear. If you are smooth enough to cruise around the outside of a corner and allow the leaders to slip through on the inside, no-one loses too much time.
The most important thing is that you let the lapping car know in plenty of time, that you have seen him and communicate this by where you position your car.

Whilst we are on the subject of etiquette, can I make a plea here for more consideration during qualifying. This applies to all of the various mods, not just 69x.

If you are leaving the pits on a qualifying run, please be aware of cars that are just starting a flying lap. YOUR FIRST LAP OUT OF THE PITS COUNTS FOR NOTHING!! so why jump straight onto the racing line and impede someone who is at 100%??  Keep off the racing line, even go onto the grass, but keep out of the way. The same applies if you have made a big mistake on your "fast lap", it is NOT going to be a good time, so get out of the way of other cars who are still trying.
Also, everyone is entitled to a qualifying lap however fast they may, or may not be. Provided that a driver is doing their best and they are on a clean quali lap, they are entitled to the racing line. This may be frustrating for someone who is much faster coming up behind, but that is the lottery of qualifying. You need to find that gap in the traffic if you are going for pole pos, that is part of the art of qualifying in my opinion.

We are lucky with our sim in that going off track or onto the grass does not mess up your tyres, or cause any problems provided that you do not hit anything. So just try and be aware of other cars and give each other room to enjoy the qualification and racing.

lecture over, lunch time over........back to work!!
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2015, 02:36:24 AM +0000 »

Grats T, hope you can come back soon G, and a "sorry" to Andreas for our contact on lap 32. Thought you were leaving the inside open for me, then when I tried to check up just slid into you.  Undecided
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