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February 29, 2016, 08:41:37 PM +0000 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGTL Season 16 F1 1967
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#6717) F1 1967 2 +1.038
129.413mph
1 39:24.176
126.466mph
32 1:12.241
129.336mph
Firestone  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#6707) F1 1967 3 +1.200
129.124mph
2 +18.952
125.461mph
32 1:13.047
127.909mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#6736) F1 1967 5 +1.544
128.513mph
3 +42.615
124.227mph
32 1:13.778
126.642mph
Goodyear  
marcfvs
 
McLaren M5A (BRM) (#6719) F1 1967 8 +2.615
126.647mph
4 +1L
121.659mph
31 1:14.101
126.090mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#6736) F1 1967 10 +2.839
126.264mph
5 +3L
112.908mph
29 1:14.837
124.850mph
Goodyear  
Ati7
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#6703) F1 1967 1 1:11.160
131.301mph
6 +6L 26 1:11.523
130.635mph
unknown
Firestone  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#6705) F1 1967 15 +7.649
118.557mph
7 +7L
97.458mph
25 1:18.998
118.274mph
Firestone  
Bob M.
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#6722) F1 1967 13 +5.237
122.300mph
8 +2.419
97.360mph
25 1:18.176
119.517mph
Goodyear  
De Martini
 TEAM-GTLDK
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#6707) F1 1967 4 +1.337
128.880mph
9 +10L 22 1:13.409
127.279mph
suspension
Goodyear  
simon loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#6706) F1 1967 6 +1.936
127.824mph
10 +19L 13 1:14.192
125.935mph
suspension
Firestone  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#6705) F1 1967 11 +3.245
125.575mph
11 +20L 12 1:14.790
124.928mph
suspension
Firestone  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#6721) F1 1967 12 +3.275
125.524mph
12 +22L 10 1:17.541
120.496mph
suspension
Firestone  
senyorlobo
 TEAM-GTLDK
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#6718) F1 1967 7 +2.253
127.272mph
13 +24L 8 1:14.828
124.865mph
suspension
Firestone  
chmichel
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#6716) F1 1967 9 +2.831
126.277mph
14 +26L 6 1:16.151
122.696mph
clutch
Firestone  
misnoimis
 
McLaren M5A (BRM) (#6719) F1 1967 14 +6.860
119.756mph
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

The moderators consider that Bob left the pits slowly and carefully, so did nothing wrong, but it would be appropriate to remind people of the dangers when leaving pits at tracks like Zanvoort, and Rouen for example, where the pit lane is next to the fairly narrow track. Please remember to keep as far off the racing line as is practical. In this case as far to the right as possible.


In the incident where Simon Loynes crashes into the rear of RogUK
It is the moderators opinion that if Simon had kept well left as he should have been when approaching the pit area there would not have been an incident. Roger was keeping to the right, and could have perhaps kept further right, but it is likely the incident would have still happened even if he had.
As Simon had to retire, there is no point in any penalties.
Please all be reminded, again, of keeping as far off the racing line as possible when entering the pits, and when still racing please try to remember to keep as far away from the line of people who may be slowing to pit.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
F1 1967
1:11.160
131.301mph
Ati7
Qualifying
Cooper T81b (Maserati)February 29, 2016, 08:41:37 PM +0000
L16F167
GT Legends
F1 1967
1:11.523
130.635mph
Ati7
Race
Cooper T81b (Maserati)February 29, 2016, 08:41:37 PM +0000
L16F167
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« on: November 23, 2015, 01:01:48 PM +0000 »

Championship standings HERE


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Track: Zandvoort '67 Download this

Cars allowed: 1967 F1 carset Download this

Please follow the installation instructions posted HERE.

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (32 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2016, 01:13:02 PM +0000 »

After the Mickey Mouse Monaco circuit lets enjoy some real racing amongst the dunes.

Appetiser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVJNkEuVhDI
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2016, 01:46:23 PM +0000 »

After the Mickey Mouse Monaco circuit lets enjoy some real racing amongst the dunes.


Agreed, but the start is still going to be an issue if people start dodging about when the circuit is crowded.

On the bright side, we have found a way of stopping Ati7 from winning everything.    Evil

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 02:29:38 PM +0000 »

Looks like I'm going to miss this one, assuming booked coach trip goes ahead. An "US" week coach tour base in Bournemouth - nice to be chauffeured so you can appreciate the countryside and not have to worry about car parking. Usually we are dropped off/picked up in town or the entrance to the day's event.  Cool
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 02:58:04 PM +0000 »

Looks like I'm going to miss this one, assuming booked coach trip goes ahead. An "US" week coach tour base in Bournemouth - nice to be chauffeured so you can appreciate the countryside and not have to worry about car parking. Usually we are dropped off/picked up in town or the entrance to the day's event.  Cool
Sounds good Bill, maybe a trip to Salisbury?
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 03:04:01 PM +0000 »

I switched off my virus protection and was able to download this track.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2016, 03:37:22 PM +0000 »

Looks like I'm going to miss this one, assuming booked coach trip goes ahead. An "US" week coach tour base in Bournemouth - nice to be chauffeured so you can appreciate the countryside and not have to worry about car parking. Usually we are dropped off/picked up in town or the entrance to the day's event.  Cool
Sounds good Bill, maybe a trip to Salisbury?

Still awaiting the detailed itinerary, Hotel, Gold Coach with onboard wi-fi, double sized fully reclining seat and constant coffee/tea service and New Forest are all the details we know at present.  Not traveled Gold before, thought at the price, short notice, it is worth a whirl to see if the "extras" over their normal coach is value for money.  That's assuming it will run! Huh
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2016, 05:01:33 PM +0000 »

Is there any accepted wisdom with regards to setting up the FFB section of the .plr file so that the steering in GTL feels less like a vague wheelbarrow?
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2016, 08:00:59 PM +0000 »

Crivens this is difficult.1:15.0 is my best so far in the 49 which is 1.5 seconds off of the AI pole. The curbs are vicious on the fast stuff, I've been so far off piste I get lost and can't find the track
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2016, 08:20:14 PM +0000 »

Is there any accepted wisdom with regards to setting up the FFB section of the .plr file so that the steering in GTL feels less like a vague wheelbarrow?
Clive, sorry I missed this post. IIRC the .plr file is only the texted based input from the FFB setting up screen (but I may be wrong). It's been ages since I set up FFB but I'll re-visit and see if I can remember any tips. BTW I run quite low FFB as I don't like it too hard.
BTW what wheel do you have?



I remember getting my G25 wheel (now a G27) and somewhere I read that that the best FFB was achieved with this wheel by clicking on Logitech MOMO racing under the heading Specialized Effects. Maybe have a play around with these settings. There is also the Windows USB Game Controls software. Go to Control Panel / Hardware and Sound / Devices and Printers. Find your device and right click on it. Click Game Controller Settings.
Highlight your device and select properties. Select Settings. Under Force Feedback tick the "Enable Force Feedback box. I have overall Effects Strength set to 101%, Spring Effect Strength at 0% Same for Damper Effect Strength. Under Centering Spring enable it but set to 0%.

Hopefully someone else will post their settings for you to experiment with.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2016, 10:25:42 PM +0000 »

Thanks Tony,

At the minute I'm trying something called FEELS REAL TO ME G25 FFB for GTL, that I found on NoGrip.

I have my FFB strength set to something very similar to your setting.

And I'm at the higher end of the 1:15s in the Lotus 49.

I'm not convinced about the tyres.  It seems to me that the harder ones have better grip?
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2016, 09:20:35 AM +0000 »

Please report back on any success with FFB Clive.

I too have a very "vague" steering feel on my F1 install, and despite copying everything from my standard GTL install it still feels like all of the ball joints are shot on the steering rack.

Tried several "adjustments" but definitely not happy ATM.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 10:07:26 AM +0000 »

Will do.

Perhaps Matt could come and do a house call, next time he is in Southport, to tell me if it feels "normal" to him?   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2016, 10:49:29 AM +0000 »

Guy's, try adjusting the Steering Lock setting

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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2016, 12:38:10 PM +0000 »

Thanks for that idea Tony, but I find that I always have to crank steering lock up to the max for all cars to avoid looking like a windmill when driving in anger ( or like Magnus Pike? for those who remember him!).

I think I am suffering from the same malaise as Clive L, in that the steering works to a point, but there appears to be an almost dead zone around the straight ahead position. Dead zone is set to zero in the game controls etc. but there is just a total lack of "feel" for about 10 deg either way from center. The FFB causes the "feel" to stiffen when I start cranking on lock , but when the car is running straight or only small inputs are needed everything is too light.

Like I said it feels like a car with all the steering joints totally worn out.
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