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  • S2967P Balcarce: November 29, 2015
November 29, 2015, 10:35:44 PM +0000 - Balcarce - UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Privateers Trophy (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.498
108.095mph
1 51:53.535
105.449mph
32 1:34.498
108.574mph
Firestone  
bagrupp
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:34.419
108.665mph
2 +6.594
105.227mph
32 1:35.148
107.832mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +2.156
106.239mph
3 (+1) +59.016
103.488mph
32 1:36.716
106.084mph
Goodyear  
Ronnie Nilsson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +2.775
105.562mph
4 +1L
101.336mph
31 1:38.457
104.208mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.884
106.539mph
5 (+1) +0.335
101.325mph
31 1:37.228
105.525mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +1.498
106.968mph
6 +19.593
100.707mph
31 1:35.979
106.899mph
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +4.466
103.757mph
7 +33.355
100.270mph
31 1:38.132
104.553mph
Firestone  
Walter Conn
 WSL Racing Team
Honda RA300 F1 1967 11 +9.188
99.028mph
8 +3L
94.538mph
29 1:39.050
103.584mph
Firestone  
cg7aa
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 3 +0.574
108.008mph
9 +4L
106.622mph
28 1:34.914
108.098mph
Disco
Firestone  
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +3.647
104.624mph
10 +26L
101.271mph
6 1:37.258
105.493mph
Disco
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +3.760
104.503mph
11 +27L
97.720mph
5 1:38.750
103.899mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Gareth
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 12 +32L
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0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 13 DNS ---
---
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 14 ---
---
Firestone  
60fps UKGPL8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 15 ---
---
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY

Dave Curtis wins the race in a Ferrari, also setting fastest lap, in front of Bastian Grupp in a Brabham. Billy Nobrakes rounds out the podium in another Brabham.

After moderation Billy will lose his podium and Ronnie Nilsson will inherit 3rd place.

A heartbreak for George Cheeseman, having electrical problems in the Ferrari while having a dominant lead. A very consistent drive that was not rewarded. Tough luck mate!

To be fair, the race had a messy start and none of the incidents were reported. There was some lack of awareness, lag and a lack of care that led to them. But I have to be consistent and will not moderate unreported incidents. In the future I might submit incidents myself, especially after the start on Lap 1, even when the Red Zone has been cancelled this season. On the other hand there was some wrong reporting, with the wrong driver names and times. Please report incidents with the right drivers involved, and the right server/racetimes, to avoid confusion.

All S&G were performed according to the rules.


Server replay time: 0h06m50s

This incident was reported by Ronnie saying Philippe was involved. However it was Fabio. Entering the tight turn before the chicane, Philippe passes Ronnie clean and Fabio looks to follow through when Ronnie, who was initially wide, steers back at the racing line. The cars touch side by side, they spin but can continue.

Fabio has no overlap whatsoever when Ronnie started to turn-in (06m52s). Ronnie had allowed Philippe enough room to make a clean pass and if you look at his in-car view he doesn\'t start to turn-in until Philippe is visible (06m52s) at which point all of Fabio\'s car is visible in Ronnie\'s right hand mirror. Ronnie went wide because he knew Philippe was on his inside, and then tried to get back on the racing line.

This was a too ambitious attempt to overtake. Since Fabio didn\'t have a chance to report back, the penalty has been cancelled. Please report carefully, Phil has made a useful page how to submit incidents at https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/moderating/court


Server replay time: 0h07m17s

Bernie is following Francesco, when Fran goes wide into the last slow corner. Bernie sees the gap and goes for it, legitimately, and he also tries to stay as much inside as possible with a lot of steering lock. Fransesco went wide, giving up the inside and instead of giving enough room squeezed Bernie. The cars touch, Fran continues but Bernie is damged and loses a lot of time.

Fran reports he uses to approach that turn with a wide entry and a straightening tight exit. However when cars are close behind you can expect a car to go inside. Bernie sees an opportunity, and does nothing wrong.

If you give up the inside you can only take your normal racing line when the car behind not already has made a move. Francesco could have avoided contact giving room, when Bernie did everything right to stay inside. Use the sound also for judging where cars are, and when you are not sure it\'s better to give room.

Fran strayed onto Bernie\'s side of the track, he should have left Bernie more room.

Simple Side by Side contact: Penalty 1 Place - In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver moves over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made. Penalty for driver that moves over.


Server replay time: 0h11m50s

Indirectly Reported by Billy and Philippe. Another example of a car going wide, and a car following assuming he can use the inside line. Philippe was quite behind, no overlap at turn in, but since Billy went wide (at the tight turn before the chicane) Philippe sees an opportunity, when Billy drives back on the racing line. The cars touch. Again it\'s similar to the first incident, and in a way also to the the second incident. Billy continues and Philippe spins and retires (out of frustration he reports).

Philippe did nothing wrong, he held a very tight inside line (the overhead view at 11m49s clearly shows Philippe hugging the kerb with the cars side by side). He couldn\'t have done anymore to avoid contact apart from not trying to overtake which is not something we want to encourage. So although I\'m sure Billy didn\'t intend to hit Philippe the responsibility for the incident must be Billy\'s. So this is another Simple Side by Side contact: Penalty 1 Place Scenario 4 because Billy strayed onto Philippe\'s side of the track.

In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. One driver moves over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made. Penalty for driver that moves over.

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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2015, 09:49:38 PM +0000 »

Moderation published. Please take a look at the Court System for how to submit reports in the right way Wink
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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2015, 11:13:52 AM +0000 »

Thanks for the very fair & comprehensive moderation Robert ( not bad for a Dutchman )  Grin
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« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2015, 03:53:22 PM +0000 »

You're welcome. The comprehensive parts are from fellow (British) mods  Grin
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2017, 09:13:51 PM +0100 »

Michael, send Cookie a PM in case he does not read this thread. He is a genius at computer problems. I am a muppet with computers but it might be worth going onto the Logitec site & dowmloading an installer - they might have an update.
I have resisted installing Windows 10 as I feared it would mess up GPL.


Billy - a long winding road, but you got there eventually, right?!
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