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  • S30 Monza: July 19, 2016
July 19, 2016, 10:35:48 PM +0100 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 30 (2016)
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.357
130.739mph
1 53:01.075
129.373mph
32 1:38.070
131.139mph
Dunlop  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +0.012
131.199mph
2 +4.803
129.178mph
32 1:37.663
131.685mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.864
130.068mph
3 +46.738
127.500mph
32 1:38.051
131.164mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.530
130.509mph
4 +47.340
127.476mph
32 1:39.175
129.678mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:38.013
131.215mph
5 +5L
129.256mph
27 1:37.836
131.452mph
Disco
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +0.844
130.095mph
6 +8L
128.112mph
24 1:38.843
130.113mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 7 +0.445
128.088mph
24 1:38.988
129.923mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Jani Posta
 Team Groundhog
Honda RA272 F1 1965 7 +1.003
129.886mph
8 +20L
128.188mph
12 1:38.627
130.398mph
Disco
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 8 10 ---
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Dunlop  

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« on: July 18, 2016, 12:29:08 PM +0100 »

S30 - Festival of Speed - F1 65 - Monza

Let's have some fun in the summer break!

We start with the 65's at Monza,
please make some propositions for the next weeks: easy tracks with fun cars.

Ams,Privs have free car choice and no limit shift+r
Pro, Works can use Cooper or BT7 and only have 1x s+r no s+go

Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = look at IGOR
Race date = 19-07-2016
GPL mod = 65
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track dir = Monza
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~45 min -> 32 laps
Damage Model = INT
Replay = https://www.sendspace.com/file/xxh6wd

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only, including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.
Using the "no letterbox" patch makes chat messages in car obsolete, so you better uncheck it in GPL options Wink


GLA and have FUN

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 10:18:25 PM +0100 »

Fran...  A pretty good drive from you.  Best I've ever seen, in fact.  However...  It does little good to anyone including you to employ last-lap tactics before you even reach 1/2 distance.  You took an inside approach to the Parabolica on every lap even when it should have been abundantly clear that I was offering no challenge.

Nice recovery from your offs, Dean.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 10:30:08 PM +0100 »

Fran...  A pretty good drive from you.  Best I've ever seen, in fact.  However...  It does little good to anyone including you to employ last-lap tactics before you even reach 1/2 distance.  You took an inside approach to the Parabolica on every lap even when it should have been abundantly clear that I was offering no challenge.

yeah he always blocking the whole road, even on first lap when people behind are seconds faster
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2016, 10:33:05 PM +0100 »

Thanks for setting this up Axel. Did you blow the engine or did I contribute to your demise, I hope not. Grats again to Bastian, Dean and Andreas. Some great close racing Bastian. I would have waited after we clashed at parabolica but confess I did not want to let Axel get too far ahead.  
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2016, 10:41:22 PM +0100 »

Shame, I just had a strange freeze, GPL just stopped...

Would have been a hot finish Grin

Grats Ray and Bastian
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2016, 11:02:40 PM +0100 »

Thanks for setting this up Axel. Did you blow the engine or did I contribute to your demise, I hope not. Grats again to Bastian, Dean and Andreas. Some great close racing Bastian. I would have waited after we clashed at parabolica but confess I did not want to let Axel get too far ahead.  

nice racing. sorry for you axel
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2016, 06:02:15 AM +0100 »

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Fran...  A pretty good drive from you.  Best I've ever seen, in fact.  However...  It does little good to anyone including you to employ last-lap tactics before you even reach 1/2 distance.  You took an inside approach to the Parabolica on every lap even when it should have been abundantly clear that I was offering no challenge.

Nice recovery from your offs, Dean.

Thank you Doni,anyway you was able to do a good avertake on the outside of parabolica thumbup1
I have had some touch with Logan and the last was fatal for me.Sorry for the touch after the Ascari but you(Logan) have defended in the middle of the track,so right before and left after the touch was minimal but unavoidable.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 06:12:07 AM +0100 »

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yeah he always blocking the whole road, even on first lap when people behind are seconds faster
Is better to say nothing,what do you mean with this? We have had a 2 different race this time.
I have blocked no one and at this point i need a judgment from the UKGPL staff about the race, because you have broken my nuts.
If to stay inside at the Parabolica is a bloking action at this point is better to leave the races.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 06:16:16 AM +0100 »

Great fun, but I had to leave early for real life reasons.

Thanks for the race.

Grats to the winner and podium!
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 07:20:47 PM +0100 »

...I have had some touch with Logan...

Can you check your GEM+ to make sure you don't have FOV set to 0? That's what it seemed like.

Check the rule pages. You are allowed to make ONE defensive move, BEFORE the braking zone. Not "he's already beside (the second time)/ahead (the first time) of me as we're entering Lesmo 1, time to make a suicidal dive to the inside where he already is, yeah, this'll work, great plan".

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...and the last was fatal for me.Sorry for the touch after the Ascari but you(Logan) have defended in the middle of the track,so right before and left after the touch was minimal but unavoidable.

Seriously? I was driving straight, straight down the right hand side of the track, looking to defend the inside of Parabolica, all quite obvious, and you drove straight up my tailpipe.

Oh, thanks for waiting, too. :rolleyes:

It's like I was racing against Donald Trump.  Angry

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2016, 08:53:39 PM +0100 »

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Check the rule pages. You are allowed to make ONE defensive move, BEFORE the braking zone. Not "he's already beside (the second time)/ahead (the first time) of me as we're entering Lesmo 1, time to make a suicidal dive to the inside where he already is, yeah, this'll work, great plan".
Ok you are right in both incident i have failed the pressure on the brake and the car was gone on the right.Anyway if any error from my part is only source of controversy at this point UKGPL is not a frendly ambient.I have suffered a lot of incident from other pilots ,some reported and never judged,but to me seem to not have done a lot of controversy in the forum.
About the FOv you should  know that ,with this game, when you have a car on the flank you know nothing about the position of the other car.

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Seriously? I was driving straight, straight down the right hand side of the track, looking to defend the inside of Parabolica, all quite obvious, and you drove straight up my tailpipe.

Oh, thanks for waiting, too. :rolleyes:
I have seen one little movement to the left so i have traied the right but you have done a little movement on the right and i have decided to go on the left and at this moment there was the touch.


I want to say one thing:I have worked for GPL in many mod(with cars livery) ,starting with Gt,F2,CA71 ,CA66 and now with the 55.
GPL and mostly UKGPL are not vital for me.If my partecipation to the race is source of controversy i have no problem to leave a second time UKGPL.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 03:33:19 PM +0100 »

Francesco,
we all appreciate very much your excellent contribution in the mod team!

But maybe it is time to rethink your race tactics...

Especially at Monza it is very contraproductive to defend every corner when a faster driver is coming from behind.
You would gain much more to let him pass easy and then follow in save distance.

I made an avoiding move at Lesmo early and fell back behind you.
The distance to the leaders grew massive when you tried everything to keep me behind Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 04:40:49 PM +0100 »

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I made an avoiding move at Lesmo early and fell back behind you.
The distance to the leaders grew massive when you tried everything to keep me behind Roll Eyes
Axel if the rule is to leave track to the stronger pilots we can do the qualifications and stop any race.
Also in the actual F1 when pilots like Perez or Verstappen are ahead a Mercedes don't give track easly only because the Mercedes is the strongest car(look Verstappen in Canada with Rosberg like example).
If is not possible to engage a battle could you explain me where is the fun?This was entitled race for fun but the reaction of Logan is like if i have facked his wife.Grupp ,despite not having been affected by the event,takes every opportunity to fan the flames and Doni i have not understood what he mean with the story of the inside trajectory in Parabolica.Now there is also the rule for the trajectory to choose?
After the last incident with Logan,with overturning,i have abbandoned but because with a shift-R I would have finished the race turning alone and without a battle.Not very fun,to do the same is not necessary to join UKGPL.
i hope that Logan did not think that the incident are done voluntarily.In both i have failed the pressure on the brake and lost for a moment the car.
The same was in other time and also in Parabolica but, since i was without car on the flank,no one have noticed this or something to say.
Some time seem to me that some pilots at UKGPL are perfect,they never do error and his maneuvers are always correct, if an incident happen is a racing incident.
Last thing:Since English is not my lenguage i hope to have explained my point of view without misunderstandings.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2016, 05:04:39 PM +0100 »

Axel if the rule is to leave track to the stronger pilots we can do the qualifications and stop any race.

If is not possible to engage a battle could you explain me where is the fun?

Now there is also the rule for the trajectory to choose?

i have abbandoned but because with a shift-R I would have finished the race turning alone and without a battle.Not very fun,to do the same is not necessary to join UKGPL.

Some time seem to me that some pilots at UKGPL are perfect,they never do error and his maneuvers are always correct, if an incident happen is a racing incident.

I have to say I actually agree with Fran on all of the above points and for me that last one is priceless as I have in the past made reference to this myself only to be told it is not the case when clearly some of us feel it is  Roll Eyes

As for any actual incidents in the race I have not looked at the replay so cannot comment other than to say this was billed as a summer fun race and hopefully will not result in anyone picking up any unnecessary penalty points.

As for being the victim of another drivers odd behaviour, I have an absolute gem from I think my very first race here at UKGPL involving myself and Fran as it happens, which I would be happy to share providing 1) Fran gives me permission and 2) someone explains if and how I can upload a short video clip here on the forum. Trust me it has to be seen to be believed.

Fran if you read this can you update me on the progress of the 55 mod and is Martin involved?
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2016, 06:28:21 PM +0100 »

I was just passing in a silver Mercedes, and happened to overhear.  Roll Eyes  Ronnie and I are both old timers at Ukgpl.  Nowadays our difference is in speed, and in application of 60fps, which keeps me from racing more.

I started racing with Fran in casual online races on his Server some years ago.  Two Italians and a maddog.  Similar deal with Ronnie.  Good fun and good casual practice for serious racing later.  Fran stopped using his Server, and 5 years later, it's difficult to find casual unofficial races with 3 or 4 cars to race with.  Those who race mostly Ai, do not have to use good road sense. 

I have in the past suggested Fran restart his Server, for some fun practice with guys who can bump wheels, and be helpful.  Or come to Cookie's Server before it is busy.  Perhaps time is limited.  Sad to see an enthusiast having ongoing problems.

Francesco has painted some of the 1955 Grand Prix cars, which are now coming along nicely.  I've seen most of them over the years, and have helped get them modified, from inaccurate old photo's, to perfect state-of-the-art machinery, brand new and ready to race.  Not just yet, but enough talent has been found, to bring this new Mod to the finish line.  It will be different, and it will be good. Grin
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