UKGTL Season 17 Mustang Boss 302 Challenge - Indianapolis Oval - Jul 3

[Ziu Bacubacu]

PIT IN - You should enter the pit in lane after T4. You may message your intention to pit in before T3.

I have to disagree with this, the track map on the loading screen shows the pit entry lane starting just before T3 & running around the inside of Turns 3 & 4. Driving the track this is indeed the case, the pit entry lane starts before T3. Similarly the pit exit lane runs right around until after T2. So you both enter & leave the track on the back straight.

I m agree Geoffers, i said to you on PM Tony. Anyway i dont understood why in the reality the PIT IN is on the starting straight after Turn 4. I m thinking that is for a safety reason.

[Bob M.]

As I understand it it depends on who is useing the track and when.  Presently NASCAR is useing the system that we have posted,  I believe in the past they used the system that Geoff noted and also some other series use the enter/exit on the back straight.. 

Bob M.

[Wiltshire Tony]

As long as you give following drivers notice of your intentions via message "Pit In" then please use whichever pit in you want. I did notice that the AI pit in after T4. I also noted the lane off from the back straight before T3 which seems only to be for pitting in.
Like I say use whichever approach you want. At least it is agreed that pit out follows the track around and you rejoin the circuit after T2, which is also what the AI do.

[Ziu Bacubacu]

As long as you give following drivers notice of your intentions via message "Pit In" then please use whichever pit in you want. I did notice that the AI pit in after T4. I also noted the lane off from the back straight before T3 which seems only to be for pitting in.
Like I say use whichever approach you want. At least it is agreed that pit out follows the track around and you rejoin the circuit after T2, which is also what the AI do.

Tony, I m not agree. It s clear that who PIT IN after T4 get a big advantage. Please take a decision for all. I think that s better not change because I sure that on practice all tested PIT IN after T4. Second point it s better for safety because not is nice cut the opposite straight with other cars at full speed. PIT IN on T4 not is difficult because the line is very closed for who is going to pitstop.   

[EvilClive]

Just returned from a weekend at Brands Hatch ( with evidence of over exposure to the sun, but we won't talk about that ok!!??) and have caught up on this debate.

For me the solution might be simple...avoid making a pitstop if I can make the fuel last for the whole race. 


 But, just in case I need to make a stop, I might try a few off-line practice laps later today and take a look at the pit in/out options. I will not be offering an opinion on this ( even after I take a look) as I don't have a enough experience of ovals or pitstops to make an informed judgement.

[Geoffers]

As long as you give following drivers notice of your intentions via message "Pit In" then please use whichever pit in you want. I did notice that the AI pit in after T4. I also noted the lane off from the back straight before T3 which seems only to be for pitting in.
Like I say use whichever approach you want. At least it is agreed that pit out follows the track around and you rejoin the circuit after T2, which is also what the AI do.

OK Tony.

I will be using the back straight entry as I think it is safer, although as Ziu said it will lose time, probably 5s or so each stop.

[Erling G-P]

...For me the solution might be simple...avoid making a pitstop if I can make the fuel last for the whole race. 

If you can, you're either a magician, or not competing with the rest of us - you need two stops to complete this..  (Fuel is 2x, in case you haven't noticed - and (some of) your tyres will have melted by half distance..)

Cheers,
Erling

[EvilClive]

OK so that is Plan A screwed!!!

Looks like I am going to have to take a look at the pitstop procedure, and issue a warning to everyone to avoid making their stops whilst I have my car in the pitlane!!  lol

[55steve55]

Basic error in one too many laps before pitting so ran out of fuel. Very embarrassing 

[SpecialKS]

ctd again around lap 20 just before I intended to pit  

No idea why my system leads to ctd's on highspeed tracks without any gear changes like Brooklands, Daytona or Indy.

Anyway - fun as long as it lasted

[misnoimis]

I arrived home from Golf just in time for qualifying  All was going surprisingly well considering I had done virtually no practice. At least ovals are easy to remember. Pulled in for my pit stop late and selected tyres and fuel.  On my way out I noticed I had not been refuelled in my 36 second pit stop and ran out of fuel just before I managed to reach my pit again after my enforced extra lap.

Something went wrong, I expect it was called misnoimis. Frustrating  but at least I had half a race.

Grats winner and podiums. 

[Wiltshire Tony]

Replay and results now posted.

[Wiltshire Tony]

Grotty night for me. Drove into the back of a sporadically lagging Huggy, car flipped over and I slid along the track on my roof for ages. Then after my first pit stop I received a pit lane speeding penalty 
 After that my race was over as every man and his dog had lapped me. Kept going as I do like these big oval tracks, even though I cannot setup my car to get the best speed through the turns.

Bit of a kerfuffle during the rolling lap but fortunately at low speed I think only pride was dented.

Thanks to everyone who turned up, hope you had a better night than me 

[Erling G-P]

That was quite an unexpected win for me, but I'll take what I can get  

In qual, Ziu was of course fastest, with Geoffers 2nd. I kept lapping, chipping away at my laptimes, and much to my surprise, it was enough to pip Geoffers for 2nd.  As Tony mentions, there were some confusion on the warm up lap, when Ziu slowed in the final turns.  Caught out Geoff, who hit my car and spun out. Luckily there was plenty of time to straighten out things before the start.

Couldn't live with Ziu's speed, so he quickly opened up a gap.  Geoffers had no problem staying with me on the other hand, the gap being a mere 0.5 secs at best.  Started dropping when tyre wear was sneaking in, but just as the pressure mounted on me, he suddenly vanished. Happened so abruptly that I feared he had disconnected, but fortunately he just went for an early pitstop.

Gave me a little breather, as the gap to the next car down the line was about 5 secs.  Couldn't relax though, as it was obvious every second would count.  Ziu did an early stop too, and I inherited the lead.   In pre-race praccy & qual, I had scratched my head over how well the tyres held up. First stint of the race confirmed my suspicions.  I had apparently forgotten to reset the 2x tyre wear from last week's race, and thus done all my practice with this.  Quick modification of pit strategy needed then. Original plan was to pit at the end of L19, fill up & change tyres. Then pit again at the end of L38, for a splash'n'dash only.  Had tested that the tyres would hold.  With wear halved, it meant I didn't need to change them at all, but still stuck to the planned laps - didn't want to screw up by changing too much..  

Rejoined 5th and soon back in 2nd after my 1st stop.  Gap to car behind had dropped to just under 10 secs, but if I did flying laps, it was just about holding, so much concentration required.  Early stop from Ziu again put me in the lead.  Puzzled about seeing him in the pits for a 3rd time, when I later passed with driver tags on. Did he have trouble ?  And did that mean I had a shot at winning, if I could stay ahead of Geoff ? In the laps up to my final stop, I had 1 lap lead to the next car, but with the infinitely long pit lane, my stop would surely take more than 1 minute.  Could I possibly stay in the lead ?  Relieved to find myself still in 1st after the stop, with 20 secs to 2nd place. With 6 laps to go, I could cruise home, trying to make the tortured right front tyre last.

Grats to Geoffers & Ziu for the other podiums, but commiserations to Ziu for losing the lead, and to all those who ran out of fuel or suffered other problems.  Thanks to the few I lapped for helping me past.

Cheers,
Erling

[Huggy]

Grotty night for me. Drove into the back of a sporadically lagging Huggy, car flipped over and I slid along the track on my roof for ages. Then after my first pit stop I received a pit lane speeding penalty 

Ooo-er wasn't aware of my lagging Tony, sorry. Weirdly, your flip was visible in my mirror, about half a straight back, and was puzzled as to what happened! How the heck does that work? ?.   As to my race, would have finished one place up, but for putting too little fuel in on my second pit stop, otherwise I thought it went pretty well.