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January 09, 2017, 08:41:55 PM +0000 - Road America (Full) - UKGTL Season 17 1967 Can-Am
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
McLaren M6A (#69055) Group 7 1 2:07.264
115.570mph
1 39:21.845
112.091mph
18 2:08.996
114.018mph
Goodyear  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Chaparral 2G (#66066) Group 7 2 +0.931
114.730mph
2 +23.101
111.005mph
18 2:09.525
113.552mph
Goodyear  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
McLaren M6A (#67004) Group 7 3 +1.681
114.063mph
3 +55.411
109.521mph
18 2:10.876
112.380mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Lola T70 Spyder (#67006) Group 7 4 +2.508
113.336mph
4 +1:22.693
108.299mph
18 2:12.803
110.749mph
Firestone  
Bob M.
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Chaparral 2G (#66066) Group 7 8 +6.827
109.686mph
5 +1:43.965
107.365mph
18 2:14.081
109.694mph
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Lola T70 Spyder (#67006) Group 7 9 +8.290
108.502mph
6 +2:13.155
106.109mph
18 2:15.141
108.833mph
Firestone  
Huggy
 
Chaparral 2G (#66066) Group 7 11 +10.549
106.723mph
7 +1L
103.949mph
17 2:17.100
107.278mph
Goodyear  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
McLaren M1B (#66006) Group 7 10 +8.292
108.500mph
8 +10.587
103.494mph
17 2:15.386
108.636mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Chaparral 2G (#66066) Group 7 7 +6.745
109.753mph
9 +2L
97.459mph
16 2:16.137
108.037mph
Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
McLaren M1B (#66062) Group 7 13 +15.994
102.667mph
10 +47.774
95.568mph
16 2:25.170
101.315mph
Avon  
55steve55
 TEAM-GTLDK
Lola T70 Spyder (#67006) Group 7 12 +12.840
104.978mph
11 +1:32.073
93.879mph
16 2:18.013
106.569mph
Firestone  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Chaparral 2G (#66066) Group 7 6 +5.497
110.784mph
12 +16L 2 2:14.380
109.450mph
unknown
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lola T70 Spyder (#66007) Group 7 5 +3.276
112.669mph
13 +17L 1 2:27.684
99.590mph
suspension
Firestone  
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Group 7
2:07.264
115.570mph
Ziu Bacubacu
Qualifying
McLaren M6AJanuary 09, 2017, 08:41:55 PM +0000
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Group 7
2:08.996
114.018mph
Ziu Bacubacu
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McLaren M6AJanuary 09, 2017, 08:41:55 PM +0000
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2017, 11:43:00 PM +0000 »

...The only downside is those "racing slick" tyres and the excessive grip  Roll Eyes

What are you moaning about ?  Grin  They possess so much power and raw speed, that even on these supposedly grippy slicks, it still feels like driving on ice..  Cool

Just had some fun with a couple of Lolas & a McLaren.  Best lap in a Lola T70 350 was 2:10.6.  Subsequently had difficulty adapting to the lower reving and narrower powerband T70 362, but eventually got it down to 2:11.08.  To Clive's delight no doubt  Wink, I have to say I find the brakes very difficult to judge on these two - very easy to lock up.

McLaren M1B Olds seemed the best handling of this trio, although it did exhibit a sneaky tendency to let the rear end out in high speed curves. Brakes much better, and much more suited to a bit of deamon braking Wink  Best lap was 2:11.6.  Puzzled to see in my hotlap replay that it was letting out quite a smokescreen several places around the track, when going full bore in 4th & 5th.  Must check the engine health to make sure it's not about to go bang.

All testing done with very minor tweaks to the default setups - haven't touched the suspension settings yet.

Kudos & thanks to John for his hard work in making this series a possibility.  Agree with others that sounds are already great, not least on the overrun - and love those blue-violet flames they're spitting  Smiley   If you have even better sounds in the drawer now, it would of course be awesome if they could be implemented later  yes

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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2017, 12:24:22 AM +0000 »

I have to say I find the brakes very difficult to judge on these two - very easy to lock up.

At the risk of consigning myself to the back of the grid.... Play around with the brake pressure.. I'm running the M6A at around 84% It makes the brakes a lot more controllable.. The brakes are a bit of a throwback to the original tyres which had about 45% more grip. Brake balance also makes a huge difference to the feel on these.

Puzzled to see in my hotlap replay that it was letting out quite a smokescreen several places around the track, when going full bore in 4th & 5th.  Must check the engine health to make sure it's not about to go bang.

That's worrying. Sad I have run all cars full distance and not had 1 blow up yet. Hopefully it's a "threshold" parameter in one of the files related to graphics only. But I'll have a look just in case.

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2017, 12:49:55 AM +0000 »

I have to say I find the brakes very difficult to judge on these two - very easy to lock up.

At the risk of consigning myself to the back of the grid.... Play around with the brake pressure.. I'm running the M6A at around 84% It makes the brakes a lot more controllable.. The brakes are a bit of a throwback to the original tyres which had about 45% more grip. Brake balance also makes a huge difference to the feel on these.

Puzzled to see in my hotlap replay that it was letting out quite a smokescreen several places around the track, when going full bore in 4th & 5th.  Must check the engine health to make sure it's not about to go bang.

That's worrying. Sad I have run all cars full distance and not had 1 blow up yet. Hopefully it's a "threshold" parameter in one of the files related to graphics only. But I'll have a look just in case.

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Thanks regarding the brakes tip.  Did up the pressure for the McLaren to 90%, when coming from the other two, which I had lowered to 90%.  Will try and lower it even further and see if it helps.

Regarding the smoke; I must admit to having 'turned the wick up...'  whistling   Didn't notice any rapidly dropping health status though, but guess I'll have to look closer.

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2017, 07:13:31 PM +0000 »

I have to say I find the brakes very difficult to judge on these two - very easy to lock up.

At the risk of consigning myself to the back of the grid.... Play around with the brake pressure.. I'm running the M6A at around 84% It makes the brakes a lot more controllable.. The brakes are a bit of a throwback to the original tyres which had about 45% more grip. Brake balance also makes a huge difference to the feel on these.

Puzzled to see in my hotlap replay that it was letting out quite a smokescreen several places around the track, when going full bore in 4th & 5th.  Must check the engine health to make sure it's not about to go bang.



That's worrying. Sad I have run all cars full distance and not had 1 blow up yet. Hopefully it's a "threshold" parameter in one of the files related to graphics only. But I'll have a look just in case.

TTFN
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Thanks regarding the brakes tip.  Did up the pressure for the McLaren to 90%, when coming from the other two, which I had lowered to 90%.  Will try and lower it even further and see if it helps.

Regarding the smoke; I must admit to having 'turned the wick up...'  whistling   Didn't notice any rapidly dropping health status though, but guess I'll have to look closer.

Cheers,
Erling

Can now confirm that the smoke was due to me having upped the rev limit. With it turned down to default, the smoke went away.  Engine health was dropping, although not at a particularly alarming rate.  It still drops at the default limit, although a bit slower.

Cheers,
Erling
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2017, 08:51:40 PM +0000 »

That was really annoying.... threaded through the mess at the start, then spun, and could not fin reverse!
I suspect it doesn't have one. Cods. My only race for weeks, and it lasted 2 laps/.
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2017, 08:55:59 PM +0000 »

I did not last much longer  Undecided  Got a wheel on the grass and should have backed off, but kept the boot in hoping to pull back onto tarmac. Instead went straight into haybales and broke something important in the suspension dept.
Definitely struggling with these beasts and cannot get a "comfortable" feel in them yet. Thus I am wrestling the beast for the whole lap. Great as a workout, useless for racing!!
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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2017, 09:39:14 PM +0000 »

Great race for me, not fast, but steady.   One mistake overrunning T1 and it cost me a place but I'm sure I would have lost it anyway.  After lap 1 I just pushed F1 into auto shift and concentrated on hitting my braking points, 3 speeds is enough for this track.  Thanks John for all your work on getting the cars right for us and Tony for his  organizing.  Seems to me to be a good replacement for the LM55 cars IMHO!!!

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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2017, 09:56:09 PM +0000 »

Replay and results now posted.

I just need to get the Chevy Lola recognised by the system.
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2017, 10:36:45 PM +0000 »

https://youtu.be/4kPGOpC0LlQ

Onboard is McLaren M6 B time 2:06,233, I used McLaren M6 A my time could be 2:07,0   2:06,9 but not possible know I meet another car after Kick corner and I lost the best line. The driver on the video has the advantage of kerbs.
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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2017, 10:40:25 PM +0000 »

That was really annoying.... threaded through the mess at the start, then spun, and could not fin reverse!
I suspect it doesn't have one. Cods. My only race for weeks, and it lasted 2 laps/.
It does have a reverse gear Matt  Huh
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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2017, 10:47:33 PM +0000 »

mine doesn't
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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2017, 11:08:55 PM +0000 »

Well, I'm pleased with my 3rd place but less than impressed with how I drove. I did wonder if I went a bit too far when reducing the grip of these beasts until Ziu posted a very low 2:07 in Q. (Over 4 seconds quicker than Bruce managed in 1967). Now I realise I should  just acknowledge I am in the presence of greatness. It didn't quite become the Bruce and Denny show rather the Ziu and Erling show. But both Bruce McLaren and Phil Hill though would be proud.

I was still on a short list of 3 cars last night and probably spent too much time alternating between them when I should have made my decision about a week ago.

Qualified in 3rd with a high 2:08 and got a great start, Ziu and Erling hit the power a bit too early slid off stage left and I was through followed closely by Clive in the Lola. Clive went off half way through the 1st lap and I seemed to have everything under control. Nice and easy, take no chances then on Lap 3 I got cocky, hit the power a little too early after the tight left hander at the end of the Moraine Sweep and drove into the barrier which bent the steering. Recovered only losing the lead to Ziu. Continued at a slower pace working out what I might have broken and decided apart from a desire not to turn left I could live with it. Slowly extended the gap to Bob who was then replaced by Erling and the gap started to come down at an alarming rate. Watched it shrink until he got me in the entry to the tight left at the bottom of the Hurry Downs consequently I began to push a bit to hard and eventually ran very wide around Lap 8 at the final turn and Erling was long gone but I still had a healthy lead over 4th. Then had a horrible few laps where I miss just about every braking point and apex which got Bill back to within around 10 seconds at 1 stage before I gave myself a severe talking to and calmed down to bring it home.

They didn't quite give the close racing I had hoped for and we were a bit spread out by the end which was a disappointment but there is no doubting that Ziu and Erling have the measure of these and had Erling not lost so much time at the start he may have given Ziu a good run for his 1st place.

Thanks all for making this 1 it was important to me to see as many as possible on the starting grid.

Not sure what the problem was with Reverse Matt. All cars definitely do have reverse.  Huh

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2017, 11:53:47 PM +0000 »

This certainly promises to be a great series. Always lowed the beastly cars, and these truly fits the bill  Smiley

Coming back to the Chaparral after trying all the others in offline practice, it quickly became my fastest option by a fairly long shot.  However, when joining online, my revcounter needle was gone.  No amount of button pressing and suggestions from Matt & others (thanks) would bring it back.  Initially exited, deleted all Chaparral files & folders bar my setups, and reinstalled the cars.  Didn't help.  Going offline, it was now gone too. Pressing "4" brought it back. Great! Online again, only to find it gone once more, and here "4" did nothing.  Just had to do without it - once going, I could rely on the shift light of the gear indicator.

Not quite satisfied with my performance in qual.  Had done a 2:07.6 offline, but couldn't even get within ½ a sec of this online; somehow seemed like the car had less grip, but probably just me.

Getting off the line in the Chaparral was always going to be difficult - had to get enough wheelspin not to bog down, but no so much as to lose control.  Without a needle in the revcounter, it just became impossible.  Had to rely on sound, but naturally couldn't hear a thing with the entire field around me.  Thus bogged down, got a tap from Geoffers, then too much wheelspin, careening onto the shoulder after Ziu, giving him a bump in the right direction, but spinning myself round.  Had to let the whole field past, and then couldn't get the rears spinning and had to reverse to get turned around  taz

Thus 13th and very much last when I got going, chasing after the field. Gained 5 places on L1, mostly from others going off.  Came upon Tony & Geoffers. Geoffers' car was trailing sparks in places, so wondered if it was damaged.  Squeezed past at the end of the start/finish, and next outbraked Tony (and myself) at the end of the 2nd straight, so he easily made the classic dive under, to retake the position.  Couple corners later, the rear got away from him momentarily, leaving a hole big enough for me to zip past.

Spend more time chasing Bob in 3rd and eventually caught him. Hadn't quite planned to pass him when I did, but was caught out when he braked sooner than expected, and thus had to dive for the inside.

Next and final victim was John.  Spend many laps to reel him in, making it more difficult for myself by overestimating the grip of my not so pristine tyres, and by catching traffic in bad places (thanks to all I lapped for helping me past).  Eventually did catch and pass him, like he described.  He went wide at the end of that lap, and thus the 2nd half of the race was quite lonely.

Ziu was 26 secs ahead at this point, and the following laps saw the gap drop by about a sec each lap, so obviously I wouldn't catch him with the remaining laps.  He could probably also have upped the pace, had I been a threat, so had to settle for 2nd - and shouldn't be unhappy about that, with such a disastrous start  Smiley

Matt: I used the same car as you, and mine most definitely had reverse.  Didn't you lose it before, at Porto last year, if my memory serves me correctly, so perhaps a control issue ?

Huggy: Glad you made it this time.  Did notice your car lagging badly, especially late in the race. Wondering if it may have played a part in your problem in the Boss Mustang race, whatever the reason might be.  Your nationality doesn't suggest it, but are you geographically far from the server ?   Or could it perhaps be someone else in the household hogging all the bandwidth ?

Grats to Ziu on the win & John on the final podium (just realised we're team mates  Smiley)

Cheers,
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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2017, 07:01:08 AM +0000 »

Tried just now, and it has reverse. But. Only with auto gears, and once it goes into reverse it then won't select any forward gears
tried withor without auto clutch, and only difference is that it stalls the engine without.
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2017, 07:49:13 AM +0000 »

These time network was good and i could finish race. CAN AM mod has 8 cars, 2 Chaparral, 3 Lola and 3 McLaren.......Chaparral 2E and 2G, McLaren M6 A and Lola T 70 350ci are racing cars, the others 4 making machines carousel good just for luna park.
These racing cars are on the same level, all under 2:08, i choice McLaren M6 because gears, Road America not is Ziu track without corners complex so i needed good traction and McLaren on these track has. Qualy with McLaren could be 2:06,9 but i meet another driver with luna park car between corners 12 and 13 and i lost 3/10 - 4/10 on my best lap.
About race hemmmmm......sorry but i saved 1 second my best with fuel on practice was 2:08,0......07 possible with race fuel ? Yes. But after that i saw the Jeep spin and my advantage became large i prefered put myself in standby with 26 seconds on Erling why push ? Yesterday i had also hard day with job so i prefered slow down 1 second, i had hungry also, no so it was better slow down.
The only question without answer is........what could happened if Geoffers drove McLaren M6............?  It was possible that i not could rest during the race.
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