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March 20, 2017, 08:41:38 PM +0000 - Snetterton (Long) - UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Shelby Boss 302 (#14) GTC-TC-76 1 1:30.616
105.949mph
1 30:50.366
103.770mph
20 1:31.576
104.838mph
Goodyear  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Shelby Boss 302 (#99) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.979
104.816mph
2 +0.473
103.744mph
20 1:31.486
104.941mph
Goodyear  
Bob M.
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Shelby Boss 302 (#100) GTC-TC-76 3 +2.157
103.485mph
3 +33.425
101.929mph
20 1:32.339
103.972mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 2600 RS (#72) GTC-TC-76 4 +2.388
103.228mph
4 +40.698
101.537mph
20 1:33.068
103.157mph
Avon  
55steve55
 TEAM-GTLDK
Shelby Boss 302 (#302) GTC-TC-76 5 +2.702
102.881mph
5 +1:14.409
99.759mph
20 1:32.142
104.194mph
Goodyear  
misnoimis
 
Shelby Boss 302 (#45) GTC-TC-76 6 +4.032
101.435mph
6 +1:19.558
99.492mph
20 1:34.432
101.667mph
Goodyear  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Capri 2600 RS (#2) GTC-TC-76 7 +4.497
100.939mph
7 +1L
98.371mph
19 1:35.057
100.999mph
Avon  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (#71071) GTC-65 8 +6.824
98.529mph
8 +28.539
96.880mph
19 1:36.629
99.356mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford Escort FVA (#164) GTC-65 9 +7.341
98.009mph
9 +41.932
96.196mph
19 1:38.119
97.847mph
Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (#71071) GTC-65 12 +9.099
96.281mph
10 +2L
91.833mph
18 1:40.154
95.859mph
Goodyear  
Huggy
 
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (#69) GTC-65 11 +8.902
96.471mph
11 +6L 14 1:39.531
96.459mph
unknown
Goodyear  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (#70002) GTC-65 10 +7.393
97.957mph
12 +10L 10 1:37.997
97.969mph
unknown
Goodyear  
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« on: December 04, 2016, 04:26:59 PM +0000 »

Championship standings HERE

Grid/server capacity: 22

SKF Trophy Snetterton
(Classes C and D only)

Track: Snetterton 1964 Download this

Cars allowed:

CLASS C (1300-2000cc)

Ford Escort 1600RS Download this
Ford Escort 1600TC (FVA) Download this

CLASS D (Over 2000cc)

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (from the 1970's carpack) Download this
Ford Capri 2600RS (requires skinpack) Download this
Ford Mustang Boss 302 Download this

Drivers are limited to a maximum of FOUR drives per Class, with a limited number of drives per car. For more information please click HERE

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (20 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 03:26:44 PM +0000 »

IMPORTANT

Once qualification has started drivers may not leave to change class/make/car. They may leave to change skins.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2017, 06:42:17 PM +0000 »

Tony, are 20 laps enough ?

In the slowest car I've yet tried (and I expect the rest to be faster), it would only take me 34 minutes to drive the 20 laps.

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2017, 06:43:55 PM +0000 »

Tony, are 20 laps enough ?

In the slowest car I've yet tried (and I expect the rest to be faster), it would only take me 34 minutes to drive the 20 laps.

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Yep, for this series I'm basing number of laps on what was actually used in this series in RL.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 06:49:25 PM +0000 »

Ah ok, hadn't grasped that  Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2017, 08:37:49 AM +0000 »

On the question of laps, personally, one of the reasons I came back to online racing after a break was because the racesn this series are comparatively short. In the real world, most club or historic racing is not for an hour, it's either a 20 minute bash for the clubman, or divided into two or three races in a weekend a la BTCC etc. Though of course there are a number of two-driver long distance races. In my case, the longer the race, the further behind I get, so anything more than about 40 minutes doesn't appeal - I see Season 18 has it's share of long ones.....hoping a couple of those with no detail as yet won't be Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 02:05:11 PM +0000 »

I see Season 18 has it's share of long ones.....hoping a couple of those with no detail as yet won't be Undecided

Fair point Huggy. Some of the series announced have to be longer races but the Porsche Masters could be converted to a "two races per night" format. I'll look into that for you.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 09:46:43 PM +0000 »

Results and replay now posted
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 10:30:38 PM +0000 »

Quite fond of this track and the Mustang was a joy to drive as always.

Disappointing qualifying, where I was never able to match my offline pb of 1:31.3.  Not that it would have changed anything though, as Ziu was still 0.8 sec faster than that.

Race itself was uneventful, if intense.  One long chase of Ziu from start to finish.  At most, the gap was a little over 2 secs, and at times under 1 sec. In the 2nd half of the race, I got the impression his braking suffered - practically all my gains were made under braking after the long straight.  Never close enough to try and outbrake him, so had to settle for 2nd.  Grats to Ziu for the win & Bob for the final podium.  Grats also to Clive on a hard won class victory..  Grin

Thanks to those we lapped - you could have slowed Ziu a little, but otherwise no complaints  Wink

Cheers,
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 07:55:00 AM +0000 »

Thanks to Erling for good company during the race, about race he wrote all on his post. Just i can see that i dont like drive on this track where not there is a real point for do the difference. However  here not easy overtake so get a good start permit me to have the control of the race, Erling rounded the race laps with my same times, he was good on the braking hairpin i had some problem with balance but i stole to him some tenths on the last complex corners also if sometime when we meet lapped i lost more.

Grats to Erling and Bob for podium, grats to Geoffers for his very fast lap on qualy and.........one special award to Clive for the courageous choice of Ford Escort here.

Last observation, i think that we will see others races so very closed on the Boss302 championship and not only among me Geoffers and Erling,but  also Clive John and Matt are part of this match.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2017, 08:31:06 AM +0000 »

Grats to Ziu and Erling for a very close race. They were almost nose to tail when they roared up behind me and I hope that my little Escort did not slow the battle.
(For future reference Erling, a nice fat, plain brown envelope dropped through the correct mailbox might result in unexpected passing opportunities  shifty shifty )

Maybe I should have gone with something more powerful? But, I was trying to resist my love of the big V8's and not perhaps "waste" a drive on a track where the Group 2 cars might be competitive. A little pre race practice might have alerted me to the difference in pace...............ah! the power of hindsight!  Undecided

Well, I was wrong!! The Escort was totally outgunned around Snetterton and maybe a wiser man would have changed his car before qualifying started. But I do enjoy a challenge and I decided to stick with the Escort and see what I could wring out of it.
I turned up the revs to max, the first time I have ever tried that option in any car. I quickly calculated that Ziu's pace would maybe lap me, so I reduced the fuel for only 20 laps. What I did not factor in was that higher revs means more fuel used and the last lap was extremely stressful, crossing the line as the last drop was consumed after 19 laps!!

TBH I was surprised that I was the only fool who selected a Group 2 car, even if it did guarantee me a group win. In qualifying I was frustratingly close to some of the slower V8's and for a brief while I had dreams of dicing with them.
I was baulked horrendously off the grid and was denied the chance to challenge the leaders into T1 ( well in my mind it looked that way  Roll Eyes .  I was able to hang on to Tony's rear bumper for the first few laps but as the field spread out he was able to power away by a few tenths on each lap.
"Don't worry" I told myself "when his tyres go off he will be a sitting duck" and you will pass him easily.

Well his tyres did go off, except that Tony and all the rest did not abuse them sufficiently to give me a chance, the spoilsports!!!. Tony did his best to tease me towards the end of the race with a couple of half spins at the hairpin. I got my nose alongside at one point until his extra power pulled him clear. I think that if he had made just one more spin his position was there to be stolen and I was willing his tyres to melt........but they didn't and I rolled in last in my class, but also first of the foolish twerps who chose the wrong car!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2017, 08:41:39 AM +0000 »

Ha ha - Clive thinks the Escort was a wrong choice? At least you got some points mate! Going with a big 'un was silly on my part, as it quickly became obvious that a finish out of the points altogether was on the cards, and that's exactly what happened after some fun laps dicing with Bill, going off onto the grass and over the bank at the first turn about lap 12, getting flustered when some of the quick guys lapped me, and doing it again two laps later, getting stuck on said bank, and deciding enough was enough..... A more tactical choice of car for future races methinks.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2017, 09:34:11 AM +0000 »

Not too much to report from this race. Bit disappointed I couldn't get the Capri into the 32s in qually, was up on my best on 2 or 3 occasions but lost time in the last section each time.  Sad

Got quite a good start & got alongside Erling & Bob briefly until Mustang power pulled them ahead into Riches. Hung on to Bob's coat-tails for a few laps until he caught the grass going onto the Norwich Straight & half-spun & I got through into 3rd. Didn't last long though as Bob caught back up & I made a similar mistake at Riches & went off on the inside of the track & dropped back to 5th behind Steve. Regained 4th when Steve ran wide at the Hairpin & after that it was a lonely race to the flag.

Congrats to Ziu, Erling & Bob.  clap clap clap
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2017, 12:47:47 PM +0000 »

Was in a bad mood yesterday during the whole day (and still am), so I wasn't really motivated. Preferred to watch the 75TH Goodwood MM livestream on Sunday Grin than
to do my private praccy.
First tried the Escort RS1600 but was a second under my offline pb (1:36.9), then switched to the Capri (around 1:34.1) but in the end I voted for the Camaro.
Had some nice laps in the opening stages but then some offs and eventually decided to quit.

Results to  be posted tonight - as usual.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2017, 01:00:24 PM +0000 »

Oh dear, this was one of the dullest races I've had at Snetters '64. I was quicker than the other Camaro's but not quick enough to trouble the Capri and Boss drivers. So early on I was placed equi-distant from both groups and this is how it remained for the entire race. Clive, it wasn't my tyres that were wearing out, it was my concentration. Two times I missed my braking point at the hairpin which is when you closed right up to me. The first time I was braking so late I lost control of the steering and veered to the right, and mounted the slope at the apex which turned my car over but really really slowly. The autoright only works once your on your roof so lost loads of time waiting for the roll to finish and then for GTL to autoright me again. Oh well I still have the faster Class D cars unused.

Next up is Thruxton which is an all Class event.

BTW anyone know where Roguk has got to?

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