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August 28, 2017, 08:41:50 PM +0100 - Goodwood (Circuit) - UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Shelby Boss 302 (#302) GTC-TC-76 1 1:19.675
107.430mph
1 52:30.799
103.231mph
38 1:20.838
105.884mph
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Capri 2600 RS (#648) GTC-TC-76 2 +2.300
104.416mph
2 +8.977
102.938mph
38 1:22.295
104.010mph
Avon  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Escort RS (#6) GTC-TC-76 4 +2.481
104.186mph
3 +36.198
102.059mph
38 1:22.691
103.512mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort RS (#23) GTC-TC-76 3 +2.474
104.195mph
4 +37.300
102.023mph
38 1:22.262
104.051mph
Dunlop  
misnoimis
 
Ford Capri 2600 RS (#90) GTC-TC-76 5 +3.308
103.147mph
5 +1:23.967
100.551mph
38 1:23.539
102.461mph
Avon  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ford Capri 2600 RS (#3) GTC-TC-76 6 +3.804
102.535mph
6 +1L
100.253mph
37 1:23.207
102.870mph
Avon  
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Ford Escort FVA (#36) GTC-65 7 +4.273
101.962mph
7 +2L
97.746mph
36 1:25.240
100.416mph
Goodyear  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Escort RS (#28) GTC-TC-76 8 +4.543
101.635mph
8 +3L
94.421mph
35 1:24.209
101.646mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Ford Escort 1300GT (#1) TC-65 D2 9 +9.765
95.701mph
9 +1.581
94.374mph
35 1:28.650
96.554mph
Dunlop  
Huggy
 
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#20) TC-65 D1 11 +14.537
90.853mph
10 +19L 19 1:34.143
90.920mph
unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#30) TC-65 D1 10 +13.349
92.014mph
11 +36L 2 1:35.566
89.566mph
unknown
Dunlop  
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« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2017, 06:51:46 PM +0100 »

Done clean install of GTL and still does it, in replay it looks like your car has run into a patch of glue for 3 seconds. Lost as to what to do now, will try GTL in windowed mode and see if it shows a message when screen goes black.
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« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2017, 09:43:07 PM +0100 »

sorry to mini lap 9 could not avoid crash, you appeared out of thin air.

Grats to Clive on win

Grats to Podium

GPL worked fine in windowed mode, but not in non windowed mode?
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« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2017, 10:05:08 PM +0100 »

Replay and results now posted.
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« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2017, 08:36:04 AM +0100 »

sorry to mini lap 9 could not avoid crash, you appeared out of thin air.

Grats to Clive on win

Grats to Podium

GPL worked fine in windowed mode, but not in non windowed mode?

That's really weird, I saw you go off behind me, but there was no impact, thanks anyway!  After Bill retired, didn't have much else happen until tyres went squiffy, so decided to retire myself and get out of the way of the fast guys who kept lapping me Huh?
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« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2017, 10:53:00 AM +0100 »

Quite a roller coaster ride this race turned out to be.  Lots of tactical considerations before the race, most of which went out the window upon joining the server.  Class A was out, as I only have Imp drives left, and didn't fancy having to do a pit stop, when lots of potential competitors didn't.  Having made some less than stellar tactical choices in previous races, I wanted to play it safe this time.  Main concern was to avoid the two aliens. Despite all their tentacles, they can after all only race in one class at a time, so I prepared cars for all three remaining classes - at least one ought to be 'alien-free'  Smiley

Joined server in Escort RS1600, to some interesting findings.  Both aliens in same class.  Ziu notably slower in the FVA, unless he was heavily sandbagging (which I strongly suspected!).  Geoffer's laptimes were on par with my own, so looked like I could actually battle them with a chance of success.  Quickly dismissed Class B, as I would be the only one running it, and that's just too easy to get points (didn't know at the time that Tony would run in this class).  On the other hand, I was sorely tempted to grab a Boss and try to make things more difficult for Clive. However, I desperately need a win in Class D, if I'm to have any hope of competing for 2nd in the Championship, and while my offline pb of 1:19.5 was a little quicker than his times in praccy, he has shown to be quick in Detroit lumps earlier. Also up against a gaggle of potentially fast drivers in Capris, whose tyres probably lasted better.  As I sat there yanking my hair over what to do, time decided for me when it ran out, and I was stuck with the Escort and the aliens!

Qual could have been better. On my way to a 1:21 time on my final lap, potentially grabbing 2nd on grid, but tossed it away by clipping the wall in the chicane and spinning, ending up 4th instead.  Start went ok; only just managed to swerve around Matt when he bogged down, and set off after Geoffers. After a lap, Matt was back, but after a few more laps went off at St. Mary's, dropping back a little.  Hounded Geoffers as much as I could, and after a few laps, he put an inner wheel on the grass at T1, entering a slow spin and gifting me 2nd.  Clive was long gone in his Mustang, while behind, Matt edged closer and closer over the next many laps. Eventually caught and passed me.  Shocked to find Geoffers just 2 secs behind him. After the earlier laps, where I could more than match his pace, I didn't expect him to make a comeback; not that fast at least.  Dunno where he suddenly found all that speed. 

A moment's distraction and I went wide at T1, gifting 3rd to Geoffers. Almost 6 secs behind when I rejoined, and despite my best efforts, he continued to extend the gap.  Had been presumptuous to think I could compete with him, but still sobering to see the laws of the Universe kick into gear again Undecided   Lost more time from catching traffic in unfortunate places, and then really made things difficult for myself, by clipping the wall in the chicane and spinning.  Stellar move from Tony in avoiding me, when he came flying through just behind me!  Shocked

Gap now 17 secs and still growing. When the final lap started, it was over 20 secs and I was completely resigned to 4th place. Thus my jaw dropped when I reached St. Mary's and zipped past a recovering Geoffers.  Couldn't believe he had tossed away a surefire class win on the final lap. Took it very carefully on the remainder of the lap, so as to not make a similar mistake, and totally unexpected grabbed the class win after all.

Grats to Clive & Matt, and commiserations to Geoffers, who was the true winner of Class C. Grats also to Huggy & Tony for the wins in Class A & B, although it was a bit too easy for you guys  Wink

Cheers,
Erling
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« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2017, 11:08:05 AM +0100 »

The result of the race was heavily determined by the impossibility of running the race at Croft. I really like Goodwood but with Escort FVA it's as if I had a bin in my hands, while at Croft I could fight for the podium with FVA. Indeed I can say that the drivers who used the Escort RS 1600 were also damaged, in fact Croft was the perfect track for class C. It is not anyone's fault but the reality says that the final result of the championship will be strongly decided by this race .

My race was anonymous, 2 spins and two bumps with the guard rail = left front suspension destroyed and if anyone thinks that for this reason I'm a donkey I do not care about a dry fig, running the race with a bin at all takes off the concentration , this stuff does fall down the balls on the ground !!!!

Anyway i can be satisfied just from my qualy lap, it was like i was kikcking this bin for 1:23.9.

Grats Clive, Grats Matt (thanks Matt, you stole some points to Erling yesterday, go head so please ) and Grats Erling anyway if Geoffers finished the race ahead to Erling was better.....The problem is that Erling is an alien he could win also with a wheelbarrow, from where are you come ? From Mars ? Or from some sidereal galaxy ? I bet that your skin is green and you have three eyes four arms and 3 legs  that ! All this because you lapped me yesterday.


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« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2017, 12:03:08 PM +0100 »

Having done some practice for last week’s race but was unable to take part because an old friend called in unexpectedly. By the time he left I was unable to get my PC fired up in time to race.

This week I had not practiced because I had planned to go out on Bank Holiday Monday. Plans got changed and I ended up painting the exterior of the house minus windows and door as I’m having new double glazing fitted on Wednesday.

After that I desperately needed some fun. What better than GTL.

I was delighted that the venue was changed to Goodwood. When I started Sim- Racing it was GTR but I discovered GTL after a while and liked it much more. I used to do my own mini Goodwood Revival events so got to know the track really well. I planned to go again to the Revival Meeting this year but left it too late to get entry tickets.

I raced the Capri with the default settings but 40 laps worth of fuel. I wasn’t fast but apart from the start when I didn’t hear the bleep and made an awful start I didn’t put a wheel wrong.  I was chasing Roger and my race was just getting interesting when we approached the incredible disappearing and reappearing Huggy.  I think he materialised on a corner right in front of Roger who span off. I was lucky and passed him on a straight. After that it was a very boring race for me so I went into cruise mode. I just had not got the speed to keep up with the drivers in front of me. Near the end of the race I saw Ziu in front of me, driving a car with an engine about half the size of mine. I thought this may be the only chance I will ever get to lap him so chased him down and passed him just before the end of the race. Approaching the final lap I saw a black car closing on me and realised it was Clive in the Stang. I knew the Stang would be quickest at Goodwood with its long straights but was surprised at the possibility of being lapped. I was working out… say 3+ seconds a lap faster x 38 = say 1m 20s…lapping at 1m20s, O K I’d better let him through on the straight. I had to stay wide at T1 and Clive passed so I just needed to keep it tidy and follow him home.  For some reason Clive decided to try the grass and make dust a few corners later so I nipped past again and did my final lap.

Grats to Clive and podiums and class winners.  clap
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« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2017, 01:02:36 PM +0100 »

I guessed ( wrongly) that at least a couple of the alien elite would take the option of the heavy metal cars for this race at Goodwood, and I did toy with idea of taking the RS1600 or even the 1300GT Escort.
But, I have always liked Goodwood especially in cars with an excess of power and I seriously fancied my chances for a podium at least.

I was therefore quite surprised that neither Erling or Geoffers were using their Mustang drives ( I had checked and knew that Ziu had used all of his  Wink ) but Matt was in a Capri along with a couple of other drivers who could not be ignored. I did Qually on full race fuel because I wanted to know how my times compared to other cars and did I have the pace to compete?
My first run gave me a  high 1:20 lap and although I knew it was messy I waited to see what the other guys were doing. Geoffers and Erling might have installed turbos on their Escorts, although their qually times were comparable with my offline laps in the RS1600. Also Matt looked quick in that Capri and I was sure that his car ( and foot ) would be kinder on the tyres. Times got closer to my pole slot so I went again and got a low 1:20 lap, again far from perfect In fact I think I had to find a way past another car on a hot lap.
A third run got me into the 1:19's but there was certainly more time to be had and I went for a banzai lap which was promising a mid 1:18 until I reached Woodcote and made a complete Horlicks of the downshifts for that corner.

 I was VERY aware that tyre wear would be my biggest challenge, I seem to have a poorly educated right foot??! but we have been attending evening classes and things are improving in that department.
I had not done a long run in the Stang, only a couple of 10 minute sessions to compare Escort and Mustang laptimes, so I was basing my rubber usage on the evidence of a 5 lap run.
It was pretty certain that I had at least a 1sec a lap advantage over the other cars at 100% race pace, but punishing the tyres like that would make me a sitting duck in the final laps. So a hastily concocted plan was formed to blitz the first 10 laps and see how much of a gap I could generate and then manage the safety margin.
At the end of lap 1 I was gratified to see a 2.4 sec gap back to Geoffers, closely followed by Erling who were both keeping Matt and his potential threat in the Capri bottled up. For thr next few laps I just pushed hard and grew the margin until I hit 10secs, then I tried to find a rhythm that would manage that comfortably and save my tyres for later. Even though I consciously eased up and braked earlier and more gently, easing the gas on out of the corners, I was still easing away....until Matt suddenly popped up in 2nd spot!!!! Suddenly he was taking chunks out of my nice comfy cushion!!!
By now we were around lap 20 and a quick check of the HUD showed that the tyres were OK and still showing at around 60%, but as expected the lefts were a little more worn than the rights.
I upped my pace, but tried not to panic, keeping things as smooth and gentle as I could. Destroying what rubber I had left would certainly drag me back to Matt Geoffers and Erling and a battle with them over the final laps could prove difficult.
Lapping cars was proving the biggest problem ( no fault of those guys who moved over and gave me room) but I was closing on them at such a pace that it would have been easy to make a BIG mistake, so I picked my places to pass very carefully. Each time I lost around 1-2 secs of my lead but that was OK as generally I was still pulling away very slowly.
With about 8 laps to go I had used up all of the green section on all tyres, so I guess that I had about 40% of the rubber left. I could certainly tell that I no longer had optimum grip, but things were still predictable under braking and acceleration............so I wondered if I could put in a quick lap just for fun?
Managed a 1:20 on worn tyres with about 0.5 lost through minor mistakes which was a good feeling. Grin

" laps to go and the gap was up to around 20 secs with a couple of cars ahead to lap before the end of the race....passed them easily and relaxed  too much and forgot to downshift at St Mary's??!! My only "off" of the race!! My lead was cut to around 7 secs by the time I recovered, but no damage done so I was able to cruise to the flag and take with win.
I do enjoy the muscle cars and was pleased to take max points with this drive. Still need to work on my setups and right foot though.

Grats to Matt and Erling and Geoffers and to all finishers. And thanks to Tony for this series,,,,,,so many permutations for each race  Wink
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« Reply #83 on: August 29, 2017, 01:39:10 PM +0100 »

Some severe offs including two or three two-wheeled excursions in Woodcote  Roll Eyes which led to a damaged suspension and a very nervous handling during the last 10 laps.
Sorry Tony for the strange behaviour and thanks for letting me pass just before the finish line.

Anyway - good fun at Goodwood - as always.
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« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2017, 03:15:02 PM +0100 »

and thanks for letting me pass just before the finish line.
I thought I was being lapped  taz
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« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2017, 03:16:59 PM +0100 »

Grats to Clive & Matt, and commiserations to Geoffers, who was the true winner of Class C. Grats also to Huggy & Tony for the wins in Class A & B, although it was a bit too easy for you guys  Wink

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« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2017, 04:56:03 PM +0100 »

Love glorious Goodwood but this race was bit of a dull affair for me. Being the only car in class meant I had the best points possible but no-one to race against. Still great fun driving the 1300GT which is a lovely car IMO. Shame about RV dipping out. Hope you can join us in future BSCC events.
Next one is the last at Silverstone  Angry
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« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2017, 06:19:19 PM +0100 »

and thanks for letting me pass just before the finish line.
I thought I was being lapped  taz

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« Reply #88 on: August 29, 2017, 06:34:10 PM +0100 »

...........The problem is that Erling is an alien he could win also with a wheelbarrow, from where are you come ? From Mars ? Or from some sidereal galaxy ? I bet that your skin is green and you have three eyes four arms and 3 legs  that ! All this because you lapped me yesterday.


ATTENTION ATTENTION !!!!! Erling is lapping Ziu  

If I lapped you, you screwed up...  Grin  - No alien involvement whatsoever  Wink

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« Reply #89 on: August 29, 2017, 09:08:59 PM +0100 »

Results

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BTW: thanks Tony and all involved for all the work you had concerning preparation of this event  rockon
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