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September 25, 2017, 08:41:33 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGTL Season 17 1971 RAC British Saloon Car Cham
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Shelby Boss 302 (#302) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.213
108.077mph
1 41:29.770
106.189mph
25 1:38.312
107.570mph
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Shelby Boss 302 (#37) GTC-TC-76 3 +1.443
106.735mph
2 +36.592
104.651mph
25 1:39.031
106.789mph
Goodyear  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Escort RS (#6) GTC-TC-76 5 +3.352
104.718mph
3 +1:11.747
103.215mph
25 1:41.111
104.592mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Shelby Boss 302 (#45) GTC-TC-76 6 +4.012
104.038mph
4 +1:31.574
102.422mph
25 1:40.270
105.470mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby Boss 302 (#16) GTC-TC-76 1 1:37.638
108.313mph
5 +1L 24 1:37.544
108.417mph
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Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#61) TC-65 D2 7 +9.835
98.401mph
6 +2L
97.325mph
23 1:47.483
98.392mph
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Huggy
 
Ford Escort FVA (#164) GTC-65 8 +10.636
97.673mph
7 +1:00.825
95.012mph
23 1:49.263
96.789mph
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Sunbeam Imp (#6) TC-65 D1 11 +13.035
95.556mph
8 +1:05.648
94.834mph
23 1:49.994
96.146mph
Avon  
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Sunbeam Imp (#1) TC-65 D1 9 +12.887
95.684mph
9 +3L
92.760mph
22 1:50.689
95.542mph
Avon  
BillThomas
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Sunbeam Imp (#79) TC-65 D1 10 +12.902
95.671mph
10 +9.320
92.417mph
22 1:51.242
95.067mph
Avon  
Bob M.
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Shelby Boss 302 (#100) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.663
106.499mph
11 +12L 13 1:39.796
105.970mph
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« on: December 04, 2016, 05:03:06 PM +0000 »

Championship standings HERE

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Morlands Trophy Silverstone GP Support Race
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Track: Silverstone GP 70's Download this

Cars allowed:

CLASS A (0-1000cc)

Mini Cooper 970S Download this Note: Not included '69 Mini.
Hillman/Sunbeam Imp Download this

CLASS B (1000-1300cc)

Mini Cooper 1275S Download this
Ford Escort 1300GT Download this

CLASS C (1300-2000cc)

Ford Escort 1600RS Download this
Ford Escort 1600TC (FVA) Download this

CLASS D (Over 2000cc)

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (from the 1970's carpack) Download this
Ford Capri 2600RS (requires skinpack) Download this
Ford Mustang Boss 302 Download this

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Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (25 laps)

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Start: STANDING
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Fuel consumption: Normal

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 03:29:03 PM +0000 »

IMPORTANT

Once qualification has started drivers may not leave to change class/make/car. They may leave to change skins.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2017, 12:39:41 PM +0100 »

Practice server now up and running. But I've not checked it, so if there's a car set missing please shout out.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2017, 10:47:11 AM +0100 »

Shall probably miss this one.
 We have our Annual Disaster recovery test at work over Mon, Tue & Wed so I'll probably be working well into the evening. Sad

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 04:44:00 PM +0100 »

No sign of the server in my list as at 4.40pm - hope we're on for tonight....
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 05:35:14 PM +0100 »

Server was confused about the lobby, restarted now
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2017, 06:08:16 PM +0100 »

And I have just reset it with race password.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2017, 07:52:20 PM +0100 »

GTL working fine, just reset pc and GTL is asking for SIM gtc.gdb were is this?

have found it copied from my steam GTL.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2017, 09:15:52 PM +0100 »

Bummer.....Hit the turn wrong on  the last left  hander and over corrected and wiggled into the wall.  Nice fire though, had the ceiling fan on high in the PC room so blew the flames away from me, I'm OK!!!  Sorry to Roger for the bump earley on, guess it just wasn't my day to drive the Boss.  Was a tose up with the Z28 and the Boss won, or maybe lost.....See you all next week in the beastley Capri's

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2017, 09:52:53 PM +0100 »

Results and replay now posted.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2017, 09:03:58 AM +0100 »

This series has become a bit of a tactical nightmare.  In addition to the usual suspects, you find yourself battling drivers you would normally be ahead, because they've been more fortunate - or clever - with their tactical choices.  Have made some bad ones myself, and yesterday turned out to be another one.

Initially joined in the Boss, but desperately need a win in my final Class D drive, so when Geoffers joined in the same car and quickly eclipsed my offline pb, which I couldn't even match yesterday, I looked at the driver / car list for alternatives.  Both Clive & Matt were in RS 1600s, with Clive posting a 1:41.4.  I had done 1:41.1 offline, so looked like we could have a nice, close race. Off I went to get myself a RS 1600, but when I rejoined, both gents promptly left and changed their cars - apparently neither one wanted to race with me  Undecided

Qual set in before I could switch car again, and I ended up wasting a RS 1600 for something I could have accomplished with a FVA instead.

Qualified ahead of Roger in a Boss, but he had no problem outdragging me at the start, dropping me to 6th.  Start of L2, I saw his car cartwheeling in T1, and next passed a waiting Bob. Thus I was in an unlikely and surely temporary 4th.  Tried to make the most of it, maximizing my corner speeds - my one advantage, bar the brakes, but have to be careful with those, as the Escort tends to bite, if I overdo my late braking antics.  Inevitably the gap dropped, and when a Boss appeared in my mirror, it was clear it had another one in tow.  Started to hit traffic when the gap was down to 3 secs, which didn't help. Apologies if my passes were on the clumsy side, but I desperatedly needed to get past with as little delay as possible.

Saved by the bell though, when Bob retired. Gap to Roger was holding at 7 secs, and later increasing.  2nd half of the race very lonely then, with the only company coming from the slower cars I lapped.  Totally surprised to finish on the podium, after Geoffers untimely exit.  Grats to Clive & Tony for the win & 2nd - and to Clive for moving 2nd in the Class D Championship beyond my grasp... Wink  Commiserations to Geoffers & Bob.

Cheers,
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2017, 09:43:04 AM +0100 »

Don't remember your car change affecting what I did  Huh
I wanted to run an Imp, could have stuck with the RS1600, but looked to be on my own
and I only had a Camaro drive so would be left standing by the BOSS302s.
Saw that Bill and Kurt were in Imps, and doing quick times, so left to join them for
some fun.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2017, 09:59:32 AM +0100 »

Don't remember your car change affecting what I did  Huh
I wanted to run an Imp, could have stuck with the RS1600, but looked to be on my own
and I only had a Camaro drive so would be left standing by the BOSS302s.
Saw that Bill and Kurt were in Imps, and doing quick times, so left to join them for
some fun.

Just independent change then. Would have liked to run an Imp too, but didn't prepare anything for it, as it once again wouldn't complete the race without refuelling. With drivers still having Mini drives left in the class, I didn't dare go with the Imp.  As it turned out, all Class A drivers opted for the Imp; having a crystal bowl would be nice at times...  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2017, 10:23:10 AM +0100 »

I know that you won't believe me Erling, but there were no tactics involved last night. I was trying the Escorts in practice simply to compare the cars I still had available. I already knew that the Boss would be the fastest option, but I needed a relative comparison for the Escorts.

I was almost stuck with the FVA, which I was trundling around in the last minutes of free practice, and it was only by chance that I glanced at the clock with about one minute left until qually started. A frantic jump back to the transporter and grabbed the last drive in the Boss.......sorry Erling it could have been fun.

TBH I get a little scared at the start of the season when I read on the forum that many of you have tested/worked out the cars and circuits for all of the races!!

My system involves looking at the track on race day, taking a look at what cars I have left and choosing what might be the most promising. Inevitably this means that as we get to the tail end of a season I have a collection of cars that either I just don't like. or that are totally unsuitable for the tracks that are remaining. As you will see for the rest of this season!!

During qually I was struggling to actually adjust from the handling of the Escort to that of the Mustang, with multiple "track cut" warnings. It was only in the last few minutes that I hooked up a decent lap to get me onto the front row, with Geoffers claiming pole.

I managed to get a good launch , but Tony was even quicker and led towards T1. I was just close enough on the inside to prevent him getting in to the apex and I was able to take the racing line and get a better exit. I was in the lead but on cold tyres and with the pack close on my tailpipes. Full concentration for the first lap pilled me a little gap and I was able to take a glance at the positions.
Geoffers, who I had expected to be making my life extremely uncomfortable was back in 4th place, I decided to make the most of the gap that I had and turned the wick up for several laps whilst Tony kindly bottled up Geoffers. Then I saw that he had passed Tony and was in pursuit Shocked, I had eeked out around 7 seconds and I worked VERY hard to maintain that cushion.
I was very conscious that just one mistake would be the end of my lead, so I was not at max attack....hoping that I was just quick enough that Geoffers was having to take risks to catch me. I was doing multiple mental calculations as to how many laps I had before Geoffers would catch me at the current rate.
But all of those predictions were thrown into chaos when I started lapping the slower cars. It was in no way their fault as the Mustang is just so much quicker, but each time I was losing precious seconds. Then Geoffers dropped back and suddenly the gap was up to around 15 secs and Tony was playing cork in the bottle again  thumbup1
We were now into the last 10 laps and I was watching my tyre wear carefully as in the past I have been known to throw away a possible good finish when I run out of rubber  Roll Eyes. Geoffers is nothing if not persistant and bl**dy quick!! and soon he was past Tony and taking great chunks out of my lead.
Again I was doing the calculations and reckoned that I could give him a second a lap and still finish ahead, but again catching slower cars at the wrong place was proving very expensive and I just had to hope that Geoffers was getting similar problems, although he seemed to be dealing with them better than me!!???

5 laps to go and he was getting closer lap by lap, and I was treading very carefully trying to save a little rubber in reserve for what I expected to be an intense last lap battle. With 2 laps to go he was only 2 secs behind and looking very intent on taking the win. So I now had had to push and use any remaining grip if I was going to hold on to the win. Then luck played a part when Geoffers got caught behind a lapped car and I grabbed an extra 0.5 secs ( not much, but very valuable!!).
Going into the last lap it was "win or bust" and going into Hangar Straight I was beginning to feel that I might just have done enough. Braking for Stowe highlighted the poor state of my front tyres and was a little buttock clenching as the front end dived and wobbled in protest. A small powerslide on the exit to get the tail around and we survived.
A glance in the mirrors saw Geoffers only a few hundred metres back with half a lap to go,,,should be Ok if I don't screw up?? I did not look again until I took the flag and the win amazed to find that there was no one behind???!!??!
As we know it transpired that Geoffers had run out of fuel somewhere around Stowe?

Grats to Tony and Erling and commiserations to Geoffers, who made my race very uncomfortable, but definitely exciting!!


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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2017, 11:06:35 AM +0100 »

Was surprised to build such a big gap back to Bill and Kurt, who were posting better times than I was
for most of qual  Huh Had some fun trying to worry Huggy in the slower Escort, and got in front for a few laps
managed to stay in front through the turns, but was obviously slower on the straights.

I was depending on being lapped more than once, and the car was stuttering and running out of fuel
on the last straight before the finish, so just made it  Grin

Had tested with the imp and the 970S at the previous SIlverstone event, so had setups, and found the
imp more fun than it's limited top end would suggest.
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