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  • A2PC Hockenheim: February 08, 2017
February 08, 2017, 07:43:21 PM +0000 - Hockenheim (GP) - UKAC Season 2 Porsche Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Thomas Blackett
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 2 +0.016
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1 30:52.495
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18 1:41.818
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Michelin  
Maikel K.
 Team Shark
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 1 1:41.075
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2 +0.274
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18 1:41.170
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Michelin  
nfsw55
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 3 +0.126
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3 +21.477
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18 1:41.594
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Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 9 +1.703
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4 +22.733
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18 1:42.105
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Michelin  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 10 +1.737
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5 +23.971
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18 1:42.052
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Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 11 +1.929
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6 +25.593
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18 1:42.168
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Michelin  
Brocookie
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 8 +1.689
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7 +38.128
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18 1:41.804
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Michelin  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 14 +2.809
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8 +42.771
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18 1:42.818
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Michelin  
Samwell952
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 4 +1.127
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9 +44.041
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18 1:42.097
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Michelin  
Baikal
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 5 +1.497
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10 +51.921
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18 1:42.135
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Michelin  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 13 +2.624
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11 +1:08.409
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18 1:43.368
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Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 7 +1.643
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12 +1:09.329
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18 1:42.989
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Michelin  
picnic
 Team Shark
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 12 +2.416
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13 +1:14.050
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18 1:42.683
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Michelin  
Linus27
 Peanuts Motorsport
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 6 +1.635
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14 +1:17.517
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18 1:42.989
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Michelin  
APEXTECHUSA
 Supersonic Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 16 +3.540
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15 +1:23.949
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18 1:43.608
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Michelin  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 17 +6.159
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16 +1L
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17 1:44.864
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Michelin  
LesN
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 15 +2.837
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17 +10.808
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17 1:43.465
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Michelin  
Sutol
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} DNS ---
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Michelin  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
ChrisR
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
Eck Simpson
 Team RaceConnect
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
LucaBabetto
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  

Moderator's Report

Nfsw\'s ping is terrible and he warps badly, causing a major crash in turn 4 on the opening lap. Somebody had warned him before the start that his ping was too high, but apparently he didn\'t see it. His ping has been an issue in the past, I\'ve seen him warp at 2 occassions, with 1 also causing a crash.
I think he is on Wifi, which obviously isn\'t suited for online gaming/racing.
My judgement on this, is that he should have his ping on his screen the whole time, if it spikes above 200 for a few seconds, or spikes for a second time but briefly during the race, he should quit out. His ping is low, so when it goes above 200, there is something wrong and 200 is way too high to race.
If he is still on Wifi he needs to fix that, as IMO it isn\'t worth risking 20 drivers for the fun of 1.

Difficult incident to moderate as it\'s outside of the racing really, but still it\'s reckless as he knows about the possible problem, but hasn\'t fixed it in those months.

  • nfsw55warning — Do not attempt online racing with high ping values
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Lap 2, turn 4 again. Alexey (Baikal) rear ends Picnic which then gets send into Denis, taking them both out. Maybe caught out by their braking point, but still unnecessary. Because 2 people were victim, I give this a 2x2, so 4 places lost.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
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Maikel K.
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2017, 11:07:29 AM +0000 »

The "old" version has proven itself in the past, IMO it's a bit late to gamble on an untested version.
Rfactor, GTR2 games etc? Yes! Wink
Ok ok. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2017, 11:19:11 AM +0000 »

The "old" version has proven itself in the past, IMO it's a bit late to gamble on an untested version.

I say drop this round and replace it with Spa  Cheesy Then test bother versions in some fun races between championships  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2017, 11:44:01 AM +0000 »

The "old" version has proven itself in the past, IMO it's a bit late to gamble on an untested version.
i second this.. neither of those mods is perfect and just because one has a bit more bumps doesnt justify risking bs happen because of some undetected flaws

but i havent raced on any of those tracks, even tho i did some laps offline on one of them. but i dont know which version i had and which one is supposed to be the "new" one :/
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2017, 02:20:56 PM +0000 »

I think we will stick with the tried and tested one for this series rather than risk the newer variant without an online race test. If the new one had blown me away with improvements then I might have changed it but other than some track side improvements it's not a big leap.  But thanks for highlighting potential better versions as I don't get as much spare time as some of you to be aware of them  Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2017, 03:26:55 PM +0000 »

Tried both of them just now, concluded most of the same as what Alexy said.

The track is abit more bumpy especially in the first sector, in the older it feels and looks completely flat, whereas in this one there are some bumps on the straight and some elevation changes in T2.
Middle sector is mostly the same, though I actually found the T7/8/9 part to be abit easier on this version, here the older one has abit more tricky elevation going on.
At T12 it feels actually quite bad, the outher curb has no feeling to it whatsoever and the gravel there feels just like tarmac ( haven't tested all the gravel yet, though grass seems to be working ok ).
Older version has a better T12, more feeling to the curb and the gravel is deadly.
Final few turns remain the same.
I was also 1,5 seconds faster on the newer track.

Don't mind sticking to the older one though, both tracks seem pretty good. Older version has a last middle sector and new version has a better first sector imo.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2017, 08:26:56 PM +0000 »

aargh, I am really torn now. Having just done a load of laps on both I find I can no longer un-see the Simbin-ness of the first track  Roll Eyes The new version is much better visually though I think a couple of kerbs are not so well done in that they offer no feedback or resistance.  I just ran a 16 car offline race and had no issues with frame-rates or stutters etc. and no cars disappeared down black holes.  Smiley

I really quite fancy using the new improved one now. Will speak to my trusty server man. Baikel, can you edit that grip file and upload the corrected track somewhere for me to download?
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2017, 12:28:29 AM +0000 »

I used the newer track for some GT3 league racing a few months ago and never had problems with it.
Nevertheless I'm fine with both versions, its your choice Mark Wink
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2017, 04:30:32 AM +0000 »

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I really quite fancy using the new improved one now. Will speak to my trusty server man. Baikal, can you edit that grip file and upload the corrected track somewhere for me to download?
Done  Smiley  https://www.dropbox.com/s/ww15jrtdodq0ycf/hockenheimring.rar?dl=0
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2017, 09:21:21 AM +0000 »

Server updated and using this new version
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2017, 02:43:21 PM +0000 »

Thanks guys, first post race link amended.  Smiley

Note to all - new track link uploaded
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2017, 10:05:33 PM +0000 »

The link for the track doesnt work on the first post but Baikal's link does!
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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2017, 11:04:02 PM +0000 »

I wish you you wernt so indecisive MJ, i really dont like this version! I've never seen the track with so much elelvation change and those first few corners feel so unrealistic. I've always thought our old track was quite realistic interms of layout. This is only partly due to having used the other one for so long.
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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2017, 01:06:08 PM +0000 »

Can't please everyone it seems.  boat  Just think of it as a new track  Tongue

Anyone know why when I copy Baikels link it doesn't work? Tried a few times.  Undecided
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2017, 01:16:43 PM +0000 »

Anyone know why when I copy Baikels link it doesn't work? Tried a few times.  Undecided
You need to put the URL between [ URL ] BBCode thingies or use the Inert Hyperlink button in the editor's ribbon bar thing. I've updated it for you.
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2017, 01:20:18 PM +0000 »

Link on first post works fine for me. EDIT; ah, so that's why it did work  Cool

No issues for me with the track aswell, only thing I have with it is trying to not cut T1 too much  Grin
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