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February 08, 2017, 07:43:21 PM +0000 - Hockenheim (GP) - UKAC Season 2 Porsche Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Thomas Blackett
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 2 +0.016
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1 30:52.495
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18 1:41.818
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Michelin  
Maikel K.
 Team Shark
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 1 1:41.075
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2 +0.274
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18 1:41.170
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Michelin  
nfsw55
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 3 +0.126
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3 +21.477
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18 1:41.594
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Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 9 +1.703
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4 +22.733
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18 1:42.105
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Michelin  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 10 +1.737
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5 +23.971
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18 1:42.052
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Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 11 +1.929
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6 +25.593
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18 1:42.168
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Michelin  
Brocookie
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 8 +1.689
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7 +38.128
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18 1:41.804
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Michelin  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 14 +2.809
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8 +42.771
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18 1:42.818
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Michelin  
Samwell952
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 4 +1.127
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9 +44.041
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18 1:42.097
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Michelin  
Baikal
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 5 +1.497
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10 +51.921
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18 1:42.135
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Michelin  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 13 +2.624
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11 +1:08.409
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18 1:43.368
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Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 7 +1.643
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12 +1:09.329
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18 1:42.989
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Michelin  
picnic
 Team Shark
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 12 +2.416
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13 +1:14.050
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18 1:42.683
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Michelin  
Linus27
 Peanuts Motorsport
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 6 +1.635
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14 +1:17.517
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18 1:42.989
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Michelin  
APEXTECHUSA
 Supersonic Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 16 +3.540
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15 +1:23.949
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18 1:43.608
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Michelin  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 17 +6.159
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16 +1L
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17 1:44.864
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Michelin  
LesN
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} 15 +2.837
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17 +10.808
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17 1:43.465
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Michelin  
Sutol
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} DNS ---
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Michelin  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
ChrisR
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
Eck Simpson
 Team RaceConnect
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  
LucaBabetto
 
Porsche Carrera Cup {unknown} ---
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Michelin  

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Nfsw\'s ping is terrible and he warps badly, causing a major crash in turn 4 on the opening lap. Somebody had warned him before the start that his ping was too high, but apparently he didn\'t see it. His ping has been an issue in the past, I\'ve seen him warp at 2 occassions, with 1 also causing a crash.
I think he is on Wifi, which obviously isn\'t suited for online gaming/racing.
My judgement on this, is that he should have his ping on his screen the whole time, if it spikes above 200 for a few seconds, or spikes for a second time but briefly during the race, he should quit out. His ping is low, so when it goes above 200, there is something wrong and 200 is way too high to race.
If he is still on Wifi he needs to fix that, as IMO it isn\'t worth risking 20 drivers for the fun of 1.

Difficult incident to moderate as it\'s outside of the racing really, but still it\'s reckless as he knows about the possible problem, but hasn\'t fixed it in those months.

  • nfsw55warning — Do not attempt online racing with high ping values
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Lap 2, turn 4 again. Alexey (Baikal) rear ends Picnic which then gets send into Denis, taking them both out. Maybe caught out by their braking point, but still unnecessary. Because 2 people were victim, I give this a 2x2, so 4 places lost.

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Maikel K.
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« Reply #60 on: February 09, 2017, 07:27:59 AM +0000 »

I allowd my max replay to be 350 meg ( I think0 and it saved a 313 MB replay
but it's only the last 2 mins  Huh how do I set it to be smaller file with more time in it?
Set replay quality to very low or low in game Option\Global. Low settings here will not bring visual differences  Smiley
I am using very low Q and size 800 with my 4Gb of RAM for 2 hours endurance races recordings.
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« Reply #61 on: February 09, 2017, 09:33:30 AM +0000 »

Thanks Baikal, I meant "20 minutes" but is same issue. In Replays I am used to doing "+" or "-" to move forward and back between cars
in this the car selection at the bottom right of the screen seems to have a mind of it's own, it seems to move to a random car as you go
up and down through the numbers, and half the numbers point at a gravel trap. Am I missing something?
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« Reply #62 on: February 09, 2017, 09:39:41 AM +0000 »

What a weird race for me that was..

I screwed up my quali entirely, as i crashed on my outlap, lost a lot of time due to that and then couldnt get up to pace.. i couldve nailed a good lap on the very last second but lost my car in the last corner as i asked for too much.

anyways, started i P6 i think, not a bad result for how bad my quali went.

I had a good start, making up a spot in T1, and then carnage happened.. during the race i had no idea what had happened whatsoever, from looking at the replay i now know, internet got messed us all up.
I was pretty confused and turned on the chatbox to see if we would go for a restart, as i saw huge number of cars had been involved. Nothing in that regard so i thought i just muscled my way through the field and enjoy the action.. Remembered my Spielberg race, where Maikel caused me to loose quite a lot of places early on but i still had a blast and overtook quite a few people.
So i drove on, had some great moments overtaking my pal Sam Jordan (Samwell), only to then get shot off in L2 into the Hairpin... at this point i was super close to ragequitting as it looked like there were some public server crashkids on the server. I just saw a blue car flying into me in my mirrors and had no time to react... well, from looking at the replay i knew it was caused by Alexey completely missing his brake point and shooting off Picnic.

I stayed in the server and from then on i had a great race, with a lot of overtakes and somehow managed to end up in P7, only a position down on my Quali position, so i cant complain, looking at how much bullshit happened. At one point i couldve made up 3 positions in one corner, overtaking Sam, Michael and another car, but i stepped on the grass when braking for the next corner and Michael touched me ever so slightly to make my job of catching the slide impossible Cheesy (no bad feelings here at all, as my move was way too ballsy and i smh knew it would not end up well).

Anyways i have to question two things happened in this race:

1) We all see in Alexeys POV video how Sam Jordan notifies NSFW about his super high ping.. we are not talking about 150 or so but 350-400 !!
At this point i have to ask how you could be so ruthless and start, carelessly risking connection bs to happen ?
And not even you started and indeed caused a major incident, but went on racing closely and fought your way up... its a bit weak to ruin the race of 5-10 people and then race on with a shitty internet connection only to end up on a podium.

you internet was not stable and you shouldve parked your car, especially after the mayhem you caused

2) Alexey, i do not understand how you could miss your braking point so much... going into a hairpin like this with a lot of cars in front of you, there is no need to be super aggressive on the brakes, as you cant take max speed through the corner anyways. and instead of risking a crash (because people tend to brake earlier than usual in these situations) you shouldve just chilled a bit and easy off early.

i know you didnt shoot picnic off on purpose or anything, but braking so aggressively in such a situation, where you have nothing to gain, is just carelessly taking a risk of ruining others races and i dont want to see moves like that in league racing. that is public server stuff right there and not what we are all here for.
and i dont want to point my finger at you and say you are a bad driver or anything, because you clearly are not, but i have a feeling you should just calm down in some situations, as i know from the spielberg race, you tried to go for every gap i potentially let open. And at silverstone you also shut down a gap on someone else. All these are racing incidents but you would be less likely to screw up if you just calm down and ease off at some situations.


now this all sounded super negative when in reality i still had a lot of fun yesterday, maybe especially because i got thrown back so much and had to fight my way up again.
really looking forward to the next 3 races Smiley

cheers guys, nice racing
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« Reply #63 on: February 09, 2017, 10:44:06 AM +0000 »


1) We all see in Alexeys POV video how Sam Jordan notifies NSFW about his super high ping.. we are not talking about 150 or so but 350-400 !!
At this point i have to ask how you could be so ruthless and start, carelessly risking connection bs to happen ?
And not even you started and indeed caused a major incident, but went on racing closely and fought your way up... its a bit weak to ruin the race of 5-10 people and then race on with a shitty internet connection only to end up on a podium.

you internet was not stable and you shouldve parked your car, especially after the mayhem you caused


To add to that, is has happened numerous times in the past as well, I commented on it several times in the GT3 championship. I think he was on wireless or sharing connection  Roll Eyes.
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« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2017, 11:56:53 AM +0000 »


1) We all see in Alexeys POV video how Sam Jordan notifies NSFW about his super high ping.. we are not talking about 150 or so but 350-400 !!
At this point i have to ask how you could be so ruthless and start, carelessly risking connection bs to happen ?
And not even you started and indeed caused a major incident, but went on racing closely and fought your way up... its a bit weak to ruin the race of 5-10 people and then race on with a shitty internet connection only to end up on a podium.

you internet was not stable and you shouldve parked your car, especially after the mayhem you caused


Sorry, but I had my chat turned off and therefore I didn't notice that you guys even warned me.
After the big crash at Turn 2 I also wasn't sure what exactly happend as on my screen I just got a big hit from behind, so I thought at first that someone missed his braking point.
I went on racing, because my high ping only occurred for the first one or two laps after that I had a stable connection and some close fights with FMG, Mark and Simon without any problems.
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« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2017, 12:51:47 PM +0000 »

In Nf's defence I didn't see a warning message about his ping either and as he states, there were no problems with warping later on as was able to race very close/side by side without issue.
I think we need to say for all future races to watch the pings whilst sat on the start grid. I'm afraid if it leaps that high for anyone you will have to start from the pit lane behind the pack. Otherwise it's not fair to those around you on grid.
Not much we can do if it happens in race. I was wiped out by Denis' sudden ping increase at the Nurburgring round, sh*t happens, as they say  Tongue

Despite the ping causing chaos, it sounds like most of us had another excellent round of close racing so that's a positive  Smiley

I was a bit miffed to see 7 non attendees last night.  Sad hopefully it was just a busy week for those missing.  Undecided
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« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2017, 01:17:05 PM +0000 »

In Nf's defence I didn't see a warning message about his ping either and as he states, there were no problems with warping later on as was able to race very close/side by side without issue.
I think we need to say for all future races to watch the pings whilst sat on the start grid. I'm afraid if it leaps that high for anyone you will have to start from the pit lane behind the pack. Otherwise it's not fair to those around you on grid.
Not much we can do if it happens in race. I was wiped out by Denis' sudden ping increase at the Nurburgring round, sh*t happens, as they say  Tongue

Despite the ping causing chaos, it sounds like most of us had another excellent round of close racing so that's a positive  Smiley

I was a bit miffed to see 7 non attendees last night.  Sad hopefully it was just a busy week for those missing.  Undecided

well, i think its a different story if ping suddenly spikes high but was stable for the laps before, or if you already start with ping at 350+

its displayed on your screen and its easy to check if something is wrong with your connection.


as you said, everyone should check their connection at the start and start from pits if the internet connection makes a safe start impossible.
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« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2017, 04:26:35 PM +0000 »

Unfortunately not at home for the next 3 weeks, back to racing then.
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« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2017, 08:38:37 PM +0000 »

The top 10 after 5 rounds  Smiley

1 Maikel K.   86.0pts   
2 Thomas Blackett   76.0pts   
3 nfsw55   69.0 Pts   
4 Simon Gymer   61.0     
5 FullMetalGasket   42.0     
6 Mark J   39.0     
7 Brocookie   36.0     
8 Baikal   34.0     
9 Linus27   34.0   
10 LucaBabetto   32.0
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« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2017, 08:42:33 PM +0000 »

The top 10 after 5 rounds  Smiley

1 Maikel K.   86.0pts    
2 Thomas Blackett   76.0pts  
3 nfsw55   69.0 Pts    
4 Simon Gymer   61.0    
5 FullMetalGasket   42.0    
6 Mark J   39.0    
7 Brocookie   36.0    
8 Baikal   34.0    
9 Linus27   34.0    
10 LucaBabetto   32.0

I was joint 5th before this race  Angry Gonna need to pull my socks up and keep out of trouble for the remaining races. Target is finishing 6th.
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« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2017, 08:55:32 PM +0000 »

Mark, this is going to be a fun battle with you Cheesy

btw, the season got officially extended with VIR and Bathurst, am i right? so its 3 more races to gain points?
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« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2017, 09:36:54 PM +0000 »

It has indeed  Smiley. VIR and Bathurst are two bonus rounds as the series has proved so popular and exciting  thumbup1

Yes, my good result at Hockenheim has made up for the two previous setback rounds for me  Smiley I am back in the fight shame I lost 5th in the race to FMG with one lap to go or I'd be 5th in the table  !  taz
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« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2017, 09:51:30 PM +0000 »

Let's not forget the close fight from 11th onwards  Shocked
      
11   Postal      23.0      
12   ChrisR      22.0                      
13   Jeffrey      22.0            
14   picnic      21.0      
15   Samwell952.     19.0      
16   spanner      15.0      
17   Sutol              14.0                
18   Eck Simpson   14.0          
19   LesN              12.0            
20   Bob              5.0                        
21   phspok      5.0   
22   APEXTECHUSA.  2.0      
23   frex              1.0                     
24   SRW              1.0   
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