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February 12, 2017, 10:35:51 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Privateers (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Gareth
 REV
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:20.371
113.928mph
1 50:40.793
111.415mph
37 1:21.177
112.796mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.953
112.592mph
2 +12.435
110.961mph
37 1:21.338
112.573mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 2 +0.822
112.774mph
3 +21.229
110.642mph
37 1:21.006
113.034mph
Goodyear  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 6 +1.270
112.155mph
4 +23.870
110.547mph
37 1:21.730
112.033mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 5 +1.128
112.351mph
5 +24.401
110.528mph
37 1:21.375
112.522mph
Firestone  
AndyL
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 7 +1.688
111.584mph
6 +45.096
109.787mph
37 1:21.735
112.026mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +2.356
110.683mph
7 +1:09.843
108.913mph
37 1:22.508
110.977mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +2.411
110.609mph
8 (+2) +1L
106.860mph
36 1:22.391
111.134mph
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 13 +4.870
107.419mph
9 +32.089
105.760mph
36 1:23.672
109.433mph
Goodyear  
Ronnie Nilsson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 11 +2.749
110.160mph
10 +2L
105.729mph
35 1:23.011
110.304mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 +4.162
108.318mph
11 +1:14.524
103.191mph
35 1:24.560
108.284mph
Goodyear  
Walter Conn
 REV
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 14 +4.881
107.405mph
12 +3L
100.429mph
34 1:22.193
111.402mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +1.109
112.377mph
13 +31L
108.779mph
6 1:22.621
110.825mph
Disco
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 10 +2.730
110.185mph
14 +33L
101.713mph
4 1:25.376
107.249mph
Disco
Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 15 15 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Starting the Privateer\'s trophy from Kyalami, leading from Pole Position, Gareth Hall took the first win of the season. Dave Ranier took 2nd place with a consistent run to the flag. Bastian Grupp took the final podium position after a long battle with John Hammonds & Fulvio Policardi.

There were a couple of reported incidents; one involving the start which involved several cars. Another fine example of not being able to win at the start, but certainly able to lose it!


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Dave Curtis makes an excellent start and attempts to pass Andy\'s slower-starting BRM. The two tangle and cause a temporary road block, affecting other racers.

With the pit-wall fitted, Kyalami is notorious for sucking in cars into risky overtakes at the start as the pit-wall squeezes the track width by a lane until the pit-exit. When Dave made his move on Andy there was a just about a car\'s width, but with the tightening of the pit-wall and Andy holding his line, contact was inevitable.

If Dave wasn\'t alongside Andy, typically Dave would take the blame for this incident. However, as Dave had managed to get alongside Andy when the contact happened the situation isn\'t so clear cut. You could argue Dave should backed out sooner but I don\'t feel Andy is to blame for holding his line. It\'s unusual that Kyalami\'s pit-wall narrows the track in this instance.

Ultimately, as Dave was the instigator for this scenario, the fault, if any, has to lie with him. Though the gap was just wide enough on entry, the narrowing of the pit-wall should have been taken into account. With discussion with the mod team a penalty is borderline, but as the collision affected several racers it\'s difficult to condone the situation.

Ronnie was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He attempted to slow but contact was inevitable.

Michael bogged down at the start and received no flag warning to the events over the brow of the hill. There was a gap Michael was aiming for when he arrived at the incident but it closed when he got there, causing Michael to collide into Ronnie. In hindsight, Michael could have been more generous on the brakes, but an attempt to slow was made.


Server replay time: 0h07m24s

Recovering from a previous incidents, Ronnie & Fabio rejoin the circuit before the Jukskei sweep. Both are not up to racing speed. Ronnie takes a cautious approach to the corner after Fran but rear-ends him on the exit of the corner.

It appears as though Fabio slowed on the exit of the corner, possibly struggling with the gears. Regardless, his exit speed is significantly lower than his usual pace, even taking into account the rejoin. Although Ronnie flips Fabio with the rear contact, the unusual circumstances would list the contact as a racing incident for this particular case.

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« on: February 06, 2017, 09:16:22 PM +0000 »

Season 31 Privateers Trophy - Round 01 - Kyalami

To commemorate the 50th anniversary of the 1967 season, the UKGPL season will take place on 10 of the 11 original circuits. For the first round of the season we go to a familiar track. Kyalami Racing Circuit (from Kyalami, My home in Zulu) is a motor racing circuit located in Midrand, Gauteng province, South Africa. The circuit has been used for Grand Prix and Formula One races and has hosted the South African Grand Prix many times. Among the Formula One races held at the track the 1977 South African Grand Prix stands out, as it is principally remembered for the fatal accident that claimed the lives of race marshal Frederick Jansen van Vuuren and driver Tom Pryce. In recent years, the area surrounding the circuit has developed into a residential and commercial suburb of Johannesburg.

IMPORTANT: it is policy of UKGPL to have the original pitstraight armco installed at this original track! Failure to apply the pitwall & drive in that space may result in disqualification. Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1: To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2: To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.

Note the Privateers division is run on Intermediate damage settings. Drivers are permitted 1 Shift R followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane within 2 laps. Failure to make a stop will result in a DQ. If you require a stop & go on the final lap & are unable to complete a time penalty of 15 secs is added.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 12-02-2017
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Papyrus Original
Race length = 37 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes

Replays temporary available here

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

This Season we don't have a Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 12:18:41 AM +0000 »

Nice to see that 19 people are registered for the privateers. Would it be ok if I become a full time driver so that I can join qualifying round sooner?
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 07:12:47 AM +0000 »

Walter - the moderating genie has granted your wish.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 07:22:03 AM +0000 »

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Would it be ok if I become a full time driver so that I can join qualifying round sooner?
I must skip this race,so there is one place free.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 06:56:02 PM +0000 »

Thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2017, 10:25:21 PM +0000 »

My sincere apologies to the person I rear-ended. I barely touched you, but your car flipped and burst into flames.  Sad
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 10:37:11 PM +0000 »

Couldn't make it, we're in the process of moving house and time just wasn't on my side.  Don't think I'd have been much of a threat as I was doing 1:22s on a good lap in the Honda so probably a good thing.  Hope everyone had a good race.

Hopefully get everything set up for the next one but we'll see how it goes.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 10:43:08 PM +0000 »

I too must apologize for spinning in front of several cars. I was having a good drive amongst the back markers. However, I started making mistakes very consistently. My race became a battle to stay on track. I began to ask myself, why did I pick the very nice Lotus car to use as a lawnmower! Then I tell myself to concentrate more, and I was off track again. It was all in good fun, and I enjoyed matching pace with Phil and Michael. I hope to do better at our next race; should not be hard to do!  

Congrats Gareth, David R. and Bastian!  Good race.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2017, 11:26:45 PM +0000 »

Can't seem to d/l the replay.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2017, 11:45:07 PM +0000 »

Replay downloads ok for me [unfortunately, I need to look at it...]

So anyway, ignoring the 1st lap for now - all the action took place/was over within a couple of laps [and yes, looked as if you were struggling in those initial laps Walter],  then was a case of falling further away from the guys ahead whilst the chaps behind also did the same.

Would appear to be a lot of time that can either be made up, or lost at T1...

Nice to be back, but yes - looks as if practice will be required.

Also seems to be a bunch of bonus tokens that will also come back to bite some areas, what with the the BRM & Cooper turnout...

Cheers,
Dave.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2017, 11:35:03 AM +0000 »

Dave, that pit lane armco squeezes any progress attempted by the fast grid starter on the right. Well, we could all continue without any resets and I had some fun with Billy after a while. Unfortunately he picked the wrong side when lapping Phil. In the end, with the exception of Axel, the finishing positions closely resemble the starting positions. Quite civilised.
Grats Gareth.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2017, 06:21:05 PM +0000 »

Well done to the guys at the front - very quick & consistent. My achievement was not getting lapped. As mentioned above the action was in the first few laps. I got a better start than Andy L & proceeded to hold him up for a few laps. It was for position & hopefully all fair. Thanks to Ronnie for making room near the end - hope I didn't spoil your battle with Michael.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2017, 08:07:31 PM +0000 »

Thanks Billy - no it didn't make any difference.  Not sure how many laps Michael and I battled, but I couldn't get past him!  Was fun, though. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2017, 11:29:49 PM +0000 »

Always a worry for me racing with another league for the 1st time... (Don't take the field out at T1 etc).

Qualified in 6th behind Fulvio in the other Cooper. The flag dropped and I think he bogged down at the start and I was up into 5th by T1. Through safely then on the exit to T2 touched the grass with the left rear and slid across the track brushing the fence on the other side. Swearing profusely to myself rejoined down the field but still ahead of the guys caught out in the incident at the start so set off after the pack. Caught Billy around Lap 3 and stalked him for a few laps looking for a way through and finally got my wish on Lap 5 and dived up the inside at T1. Caught the Fulvio, Bagrupp and Rainier train on about Lap 11 but there was nothing I could do so sat watching the lines and trying to come up with a solution. Bagrupp had a moment around Lap 19 and we were through. Rainier slowly extended his advantage and I sat glued to Fulvio's gearbox for a few laps with Bagrupp doing likewise behind. Had noticed Fulvio took a wide entry into the Leeukop Bend to get a straighter run onto the SF straight. I knew if I could hold a tighter line and get the power down early enough and get inside him for The Kink I could make a pass stick which was exactly what happened at the end of lap 22, Bagrupp was through as well and making a real nuisance of himself. He was obviously faster than me but I somehow held him off for a few laps before having to let him have the inside into Crowthorne. He slowly extended over the the next few laps and Fulvio was making enquiries about my 4th place at every opportunity. Then on Lap 33 I was back with Bagrupp again who must have had another moment so the 3 of us were all smelling the podium champagne but Bagrupp kept his nerve and I managed to hold off Fulvio to grab 4th place.

Really pleased with the result, enjoyed the close racing possible on a track most I'm sure know well.

Thanks to all those who were lapped, So polite, I was taken by surprise. I hope I can return the favour as efficiently when I have the inevitable off day in a few races.

Thanks for letting me join this series guys, it was a blast. Not sure how many I will make but I'll get to as many as I can.

TTFN
John.
 
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2017, 09:34:28 AM +0000 »

Great to see you had a blast John here at UKGPL. It's a great league. Grats to Gareth and podium. Smiley
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