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February 28, 2017, 10:36:27 PM +0000 - Monaco (1929-71 Reverse) - UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Specials Series Trophy
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
McLaren M4A GPL F2 1 1:26.656
81.189mph
1 44:30.330
79.041mph
30 1:25.935
81.870mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Lola T100 (BMW) GPL F2 2 +0.445
80.774mph
2 +16.343
78.560mph
30 1:26.495
81.340mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 166 GPL F2 4 +1.556
79.757mph
3 +1:14.381
76.899mph
30 1:27.737
80.188mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 6 +3.167
78.326mph
4 +1:25.641
76.584mph
30 1:29.579
78.539mph
Dunlop  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 9 +4.621
77.078mph
5 +1L
76.244mph
29 1:28.444
79.547mph
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
Protos 16 (FVA) GPL F2 7 +4.178
77.454mph
6 +20.677
75.659mph
29 1:29.785
78.359mph
Goodyear  
Walter Conn
 REV
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 8 +4.254
77.390mph
7 +25.795
75.516mph
29 1:29.421
78.678mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T84 GPL F2 5 +2.264
79.121mph
8 +2L
71.315mph
28 1:33.650
75.125mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 41B GPL F2 10 +5.220
76.576mph
9 +13L
75.955mph
17 1:29.867
78.288mph
Disco
Firestone  
DLogan
 
McLaren M4A GPL F2 3 +1.083
80.186mph
10 +26L
72.789mph
4 1:28.525
79.475mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT23 GPL F2 11 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 
McLaren M4A GPL F2 11 12 ---
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Goodyear  

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There were problems with an invisible barrier at T1 but no reported incidents.

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GPL F2
1:26.656
81.189mph
FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
McLaren M4AFebruary 28, 2017, 10:36:27 PM +0000
S31SS
Grand Prix Legends
GPL F2
1:25.935
81.870mph
FullMetalGasket
Race
McLaren M4AFebruary 28, 2017, 10:36:27 PM +0000
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« on: February 23, 2017, 12:07:53 PM +0000 »

On to the next round of this season's SPECIAL series.

All of the tracks are the original Papyrus circuits that were published on the original CD, but we are running them in reverse direction. There will be a mixture of carsets to use through the season and for the second race we are using the 67 F2 cars.
Please refer to the championship page to see which cars you are eligible to use. The general focus is on fun and close racing for all, with the faster drivers limited to the slower cars.
Monaco in reverse is a different circuit with uphill hairpins and St Devote at the bottom of a fast downhill section, be careful!

In the 67 F2, PRO drivers cannot use: Matra MS5 FVA, Matra MS7 FVA, Brabham BT23 FVA, Lotus 48 FVA or Lola T100 FVA.
 They are permitted to use any other chassis a maximum of 2x during the season.


Password: see above
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Race list       iGOR
Server         UKGPL_8
IP address    look at IGOR
Date            28-02-2017

Track           ocanom (we recommend that you download the folder containing all of the reversed circuits and the reverse season.ini file)

Mod            67 F2
Damage       INT long
Race time      Race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying      ~45 minutes, starting ~ 20:45 UK time
Race length    30 laps
Replay            get here

Shift/R is allowed but must be followed by a SnG in the pitlane within 2 laps.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 04:47:52 PM +0000 »

Really looking forward to this, I hope I can make it, it should be a blast!  Grin  
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 04:27:02 PM +0000 »

This on during the GF's 30th - I may not be able to make it  Sad

Will do my best though as it should be hilarious  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2017, 05:16:36 PM +0000 »

This track should be tricky to learn...

Practice server is up!
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 09:40:45 PM +0000 »

****ING AWESOME JOB GUYS!@!!@#{%YH On my roof T1, wait for EVERYOJNE to go by, LOTS OF PASSING opportunitiesx here to make it up, RIGHT?

Then a few laps later, someone sitting SIDEWAYS AND STATIONARY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE F***ING TRACK???!???!?? Boom, roofed again.

Fake race. Don't want this on my record, [size=10000000000009000pt]ERASE IT[/size].  Angry
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2017, 10:31:44 PM +0000 »

Hard luck Dean, it appears as though an invisible barrier at the Rascasse caused the shenanigans on the first lap. I joined the party and rolled the car. The reset and SnG put me down to 8th.

From there it was good fun coaxing the Lola along, Monaco's never the easiest to pass but thanks to the courtesy of others I could slip up the order. I must apologise the Dave Ranier for the punt at the Rascasse. I was caught out by the different braking point and had no where to go  Embarrassed. Glad you could carry on with no position lost  Smiley.

Tim kindly waited for me up ahead and we proceeded to have a good battle for the lead. Though I tried Tim had the edge where it counted on the corner exits. Eventually our battle ended when I succumbed to the invisible barrier at the Rascasse on the opposite side of the start  cursing. Managed to get home 2nd. An eventful evening to say the least!

Congrats to Tim & Clive for their podium positions.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2017, 10:34:51 PM +0000 »

That was a disaster - it's only on watching the replay that I figured out what happened. I had assumed someone had hit me/lag hit me at the start when I got fired into Sam and the P4 car.
Turns out it was an invisible wall  Angry That's what you get for trying to leave room on a re-purposed track I guess  Sad

As I was blocking the track I made to move off as fast as I could, think I bumped someone's nose in the process but felt it was better to clear the circuit as every other option would simply continue the road block.

I found myself pulling away pretty quick after that but noticed Sam climbing back up into about 7th or 8th on Prib so decided to hold pace and wait to see if he cleared (Dean?) into 2nd.
Eventually he did, so once he had a gap behind him I put in a mega slow lap to let him catch me - at this point I was still assuming there was some sort of weird lag impact that had caused the T1 crash so wanted to get back to start positions and fight for the place fairly.

Sam almost made me regret this as he hung on and pushed me like crazy, his late braking into T1 was at times scary as he could gain so much ground over me there. I'd clouted the barriers a few times in the first half of the race but just think Sam's car could stop better despite this.

Congrats to Sam and Clive on the podiums and all other finishers, very honest apologies if I ruined anyone's race but I had no way of knowing there was a wall there  Sad
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2017, 10:35:23 PM +0000 »

Fun Race, I am sorry to Axel for the shunt on lap 18. I hope to learn from my mistake. Also, sorry for the drivers behind me because I stopped in the racing line to wait for Axel to get going. I'll do it a little differently next time.

Great track for the F2 cars. I started the race very calm and composed. I was unaffected by the incident in T1. In a way, the incident shuffled a few faster drivers to the back. Reversing the grid as well. My adrenaline was building steadily as I had faster cars behind me. The fun factor was very high, but then my composure cracked while braking for Mirabeau. I was too concerned with the cars behind me, and I rear ended the car in front. I did a S&G for the incident. Then later in the race, I lost a wheel. So I did a shift R and S&G for that.

Thanks Axel and Clive for these reverse races. Congrats to the finishers.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2017, 11:00:35 PM +0000 »

Replay's not working here.

"This site can’t be reached

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Go to http://dyndns.org/
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2017, 11:31:47 PM +0000 »

Here is a copy of my replay. BTW, I was following you on lap 5 when you came across the road block. Bad Luck Dean.

https://www.mediafire.com/?y8822fq6vhs9awl
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2017, 08:42:54 AM +0000 »

Sorry for blocking the track, dean. Car in front of me spun and i braked too hard. I believe there is an invisble obstacle inside rascasse.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2017, 08:59:52 AM +0000 »

I was going to say I was sorry to have missed this one but reading this I think I may have been better off not making it.  Undecided
I think this is the worst one to run in reverse, I hope/think the rest will work out better.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2017, 09:43:58 AM +0000 »

I think most of us discovered the invisible concrete block on the inside of Rascasse at some point. Those of us who found it in practice were the lucky ones and were able to adjust our racing line  to avoid the problem during the race.

I'm sorry that running a track in reverse throws up these issues and especially sorry that T1, lap1 affected so many people's race.

Perhaps we can ask all of those who practice these reverse tracks offline to post warnings about any glitches they discover??

I was the car in 4th that got caught up in the T1 problems. I was cautious at T1 and stayed wide, but it did not save me from being harpooned by a car and getting stuffed into the barriers. I waited a few seconds realising that any attempt at a S/R would not work. When I did hit the reset, my car was launched about 50 mtrs into the air and I frightened the helicopter pilot who was filming up there...quite spectacular!! Roll Eyes
By the time the chaos had cleared and my car was back on track I was last, and about 20msecs behind the pack. Undecided

My original plan had been to use the underpowered Ferrari on a track that rewarded handling over outright speed and save better cars for other tracks. To work, I needed to get away at the front of the field and avoid any holdups through incidents in the midfield. Well that plan worked for about 10 seconds!! Huh

After my SnG there was not a car in sight at any point on the track and I was not hopeful of making up the ground, or even being able to pass cars if I caught them. But, what the heck! lets give it a go.

I have to say that I did enjoy the reverse direction around Monaco and it had a nice flow for me. Gradually I caught cars and through others errors and some wave throughs I climbed up through the list. There was no chance of catching Tim and Sam who were too fast and too far ahead, but David was tantalisingly around 300mtrs ahead.
With around 5 laps to go I caught David but he was not going to give up his 3rd place easily and he defended very well. The extra power of his FVA engine made it very difficult to find a passing opportunity with the wheezing Ferrari.
For several laps I was glued to his tail pipes hoping for a mistake, but although he got a little ragged in places there was no opportunity to get past.
Starting the last lap I was thinking that David was going to hold onto his podium place until, at Rascasse, he found the invisible wall and his car stopped dead. I clipped the rear of his car and for one awful moment I thought that I had wrecked my car too, but all was OK and I was able to crawl around the outside of David's stricken car and steal his 3rd place.

What David did not know, was that I was out of fuel and I could only crawl around that last lap finishing with 0.1 litres. He could easily have held 3rd spot if he had survived T1.   Hard luck David.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2017, 10:46:37 AM +0000 »

I think for future races it would be an good idea for everyone to trial running down the edges of the first mile or so. I never knew or even considered that the originals would have invisible walls to be honest, I don't want to be caught out again.

I've guess that papyrus never thought anyone would be stupid enough to race backwards Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2017, 11:13:53 AM +0000 »

Perhaps we can ask all of those who practice these reverse tracks offline to post warnings about any glitches they discover??

I did mention this Ocanom glitch as part of my response to trying these tracks offline, but that is buried in the Aznom test race where we all put our thoughts on these things at the time.

http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14249.30

Still it didn't stop me being caught by it later in the race.
At the start, those of us towards the back of the grid stopped until a path became clear. Dave found a way through and I followed him. Off we went expecting the faster drivers to soon catch up. I was wobbly and slow and holding up Bastain at times, but I had a gap when I spun backwards into the haybales. I bounced out and away before he arrived, but it had a knock on effect. Sorry Dean.

Sam came through and then I hit the armco in Casino Square so that I was facing the wrong way. I couldn't get back round and up to speed before everyone but Doni had passed. Later I gained a couple of places when Walter and Axel came together.
Near the end after I let Sam lap me, he found the invisible wall and he had to lap me again. Sorry Sam I got that wrong.
I am happy that I survived without a reset, but it seems that these F2's can take a lot of punishment without losing wheels and blowing engines.

I think that this is about as hard as it gets. Monaco backwards in (for me) an unfamiliar car set. It was quite interesting. Well done to those who kept at it.
Fantastic times up front by Tim and Sam. Laptimes anyone would be proud of in any GPL car going the normal way.
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