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March 12, 2017, 10:36:04 PM +0000 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Privateers (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
AndyL
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 2 +0.023
107.924mph
1 52:03.891
105.077mph
35 1:28.172
106.366mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.067
107.870mph
2 +4.922
104.911mph
35 1:26.497
108.426mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +1.003
106.721mph
3 +10.486
104.725mph
35 1:27.618
107.039mph
Goodyear  
Gareth
 REV
BRM P115 F1 1967 7 +0.520
107.311mph
4 +17.748
104.483mph
35 1:28.257
106.264mph
Goodyear  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +0.295
107.588mph
5 +33.479
103.963mph
35 1:27.666
106.980mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +1.483
106.141mph
6 +47.577
103.500mph
35 1:28.052
106.511mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +0.483
107.356mph
7 +1:05.404
102.922mph
35 1:26.821
108.021mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +0.416
107.438mph
8 +1:07.166
102.865mph
35 1:27.041
107.748mph
Goodyear  
Ronnie Nilsson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 13 +2.196
105.291mph
9 +1L
101.757mph
34 1:30.408
103.736mph
Firestone  
Pepe Higdon
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 +1.800
105.762mph
10 +12.286
101.360mph
34 1:29.874
104.352mph
Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 18 11 +15.913
101.243mph
34 1:29.910
104.310mph
Firestone  
Walter Conn
 REV
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +1.738
105.836mph
12 +16.344
101.229mph
34 1:27.893
106.704mph
Firestone  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 14 +2.980
104.373mph
13 +2L
98.973mph
33 1:28.739
105.687mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:26.876
107.953mph
14 +28L
103.316mph
7 1:28.280
106.236mph
unknown
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 10 +1.687
105.897mph
15 +29L
92.208mph
6 1:29.194
105.147mph
Disco
Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 COBRA
Honda RA300 F1 1967 15 +3.596
103.662mph
16 +30L
90.261mph
5 1:32.065
101.868mph
Disco
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 16 +3.770
103.463mph
17 +33L
72.780mph
2 1:45.912
88.550mph
Disco
Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 17 18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

A solid drive from Andy Livingston to claim his first win of the season, in the BRM no less. After a collision on the first lap, Fulvio put in an excellent recovery to 2nd place. Billy Nobrakes rounds the podium, despite managing some sight-seeing across the dunes.

There was one reported incident on the first lap. As it was the first lap incident it managed to involve the majority of the field! So here goes.....


Server replay time: 0h01m20s

John Hammonds and Fulvio Policardi have a coming-together on the straight after Hugenholtz, causing Fulvio\'s car to spin across the track. Bastian Grupp, unsighted over the crest of the hill, takes avoiding action over the grass. As a consequence, his trajectory with limited control takes him straight into the path of John a couple of corners later, flipping him over and causing Bastian to come to a standstill on the racing line. This causes a roadblock and the surrounding collisions were an unfortunate chain reaction.

All of this started with John and Fulvio\'s collision. John gets a better exit out of Hugenholtz and gets alongside Fulvio but squeezes him over the crest. GPL\'s collision box is extremely overzealous in comparison to GT Legends for example, so please be prepared to give very generous amounts of space when battling over cars.

Bastian\'s trip across the grass was unfortunate, given the trajectory he took. A light application of the brakes on the grass would have helped Bastian avoid John further down the circuit, but apply them too much and there\\\'s always the risk of swapping ends (ask me how I know?!).

The majority of drivers did a commendable job of slowing down given the chaos in-front of them. There were a few unfortunate collisions, such as Ronnie Nilson hitting Dave Ranier, but that was due to taking evasive action of a stationary Bastian up-ahead, who was unsighted until the last moment.

However, Fabio Locarno should have been far more careful as he had clear sight of the chaos in front of him, but didn\'t slow down nearly as much as he should have done resulting in an un-necessary collision.

Given the circumstances and how it came about, I would simply put this down to marginal side-by-side contact on John\'s part. As John is relatively new to GPL (and its generous collision boxes), I\'ve put this down as a caution. Always try to leave copious amounts of room when overtaking.

Fabio, please be prepared to stop if you see a complete mess up ahead.

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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2017, 11:10:00 AM +0000 »

I missed out on qualifying as I kept getting the  'You are not qualified to drive in this race' message. Apparently this was because I had not ticked the  'PatchCarset for sound' box in GEM as I discovered with a couple of minutes to spare.
I'm not sure why this was necessary as I'm pretty sure that I've raced without that being ticked on previous occasions but I have been moving the GPL folder around after installing another SSD so maybe that had changed the settings somehow.
Anyway I was glad not to miss a race at my favourite track in my favourite car - those fast, sweeping bends being a refreshing change after the Start Stop of Monaco.

Accustomed as I am to starting on the back row, I was not disadvantaged by the lack of a qualifying time and indeed, and not unexpectedly , it turned out to be the safest place. What was unexpected was Pepe doffing his cap to let the backmarkers through.
Unfortunately such gentlemanly behaviour was not replicated by the others ahead of me.

Like Walter I found myself losing grip after the halfway mark although tyre temperatures were not excessive. Must have been oil on the track following the earlier pileups and a couple of minor offs ensued.
I eased off a bit which allowed Walter to suddenly appear in my mirrors so the last lap was a bit tense but the pace of the Ferrari kept me ahead.

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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2017, 03:33:00 PM +0000 »

Grats to podium!
cant complain at 4th, far better than my pace here deserved.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2017, 08:59:47 PM +0000 »

Well, a rather intense race! In the end I was all wet for the effort. Zandvoort is a track where you can't relax even on the straight.
I found myself in pole at half qualy and relaxed a bit, but then Axel and Andy did better and I couldn't do better.
I started very cautious to not press Andy at T1, but then he had a moment at T2 before the hairpin and I didn't want to attack him so early on cold tires so I rested behind him around the hairpin on the outside. This gave John the chance to close on me and have a run on me uphill, sincerely I didn't expect a pass there so I kept my line and we tangled. Luckily I spun on the track without anyone crashing on me while John could continue straight only to be fired by Bastian cutting the grass on the next turn, as i found it watching server replay cause my replay started soon after the big pile up that followed.
I had set replay memory for 36fps but with 60fps wasn't enough for a 50 min. race.
After have done some lawn moving I restarted dead last but I gained some position passing some cars involved in the pile up so I found myself in 12th behind Phil and Bird battling, but on last turn they crashed and took me with them so two cars passed me. Luckily I restarted without damage and focused to the track trying to gain some positions for other mistakes. This happened but I won also some good battles for position. The more difficult to pass was Michael's Ferrari that leaved me in the dust on the straight lap after lap, so I had to wait for a little moment outside last turn and drag him along the straight and outbraking him inside at T1. Also Gareth BRM was fast on straight but I managed to pass him in the end.
Grats to Andy for a solid win keeping the beast on the track :-)
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2017, 09:45:37 PM +0000 »

What a difficult track. I was running 3 seconds slower than my best time (10 years ago!). During my practising, every time I pushed, I came off.  So, I decided not to push during the race. I started 13th, picked my way through the field as people slid off, working my way up to 8th. Pepe and Walter appeared in my mirrors, but were unable to apply concerted pressure. Near the end, Rainier overtook me, so I finished 9th.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2017, 07:13:34 AM +0000 »

Sounds like just about everyone had some action on this fantastic track. It was a shame about the lap one incident but it did played big part in 3rd place. Had some good battles along the way & found myself running in P2 for many laps. At one point the gap to Andy was down to 5 secs, when I had a huge spin across the sand dunes. Fulvio  & Gareth nipped past but Gareth span a couple of laps later. Grats to Andy for keeping the BRM under control.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2017, 06:34:15 PM +0000 »

Grats Andy, my man! Steady wins it, and you're one of the most consistent at UKGPL. One of those softly spoken nice guys that deserve succes! Winning in the green whale is always superb Smiley

Watch for Pepe in the future guys, he might drop out of the sky suddenly with 45/60/1 ramp angles and a wheel in his hands...(inside joke)  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2017, 10:18:31 AM +0000 »

Thank you Robert. It's good to see you still pushing your rank. Under -350 now for the monster!
Zandvoort seems to suit my approach as much as any track. Slow in fast out is important. Driving aggressively here is heavily punished. A kerb bump or wheel on the grass/sand can result in a long trip through the dunes.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2017, 08:53:20 PM +0100 »

Mod report published. Apologies for the delay.
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2017, 12:52:05 PM +0100 »

thx for the reko
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