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« Reply #120 on: August 10, 2017, 02:55:58 PM +0100 » |
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Avira does not use RAM if not scanning... To me it seems that something else is running in the background. When all RAM is full it will write on HDD and this will extremely slow your PC down. You know that XP 32 can only handle 3.2GB Ram. I suppose to use CCleaner and stop all autostart programs exept the essentials like sound + avira + GPU. My server:
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« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2017, 05:38:43 AM +0100 » |
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I downloaded the free version of CCleaner but it didn't look like that and so far as I could tell it was yet another "monitor" that would be running.
I did a test run at Monaco after having manually closed everything I could find and that was ok, although I did get some strange colours in the left mirror when sat in the pits. In training it mostly ran between 60 and 45fps.
I shall try that approach with Spa67 and try the hardware monitor again to see if it sheds any light on where it is falling short.
I only have 2Gb of RAM after discarding the sticks that wouldn't boot.
What happened to you at Buenos Aires?
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« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2017, 09:28:11 AM +0100 » |
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Yes my CCleaner is an old version, but turn off the monitoring and the autostart. 2GB is too short for Spa67 for shure, and the data will be written in the pagefile.sys on the HDD! Try to clean the contacts of the 4GB RAM to get it working anyhow... At BA I had made a mistake in setup that caused an overheating of the brakes (too much front brake bias) it helped in quali but killed my brakes in the race
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« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2017, 10:19:49 AM +0100 » |
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Yes my CCleaner is an old version, but turn off the monitoring and the autostart. 2GB is too short for Spa67 for shure, and the data will be written in the pagefile.sys on the HDD! Try to clean the contacts of the 4GB RAM to get it working anyhow... At BA I had made a mistake in setup that caused an overheating of the brakes (too much front brake bias) it helped in quali but killed my brakes in the race I know what you mean about qually setups. I try to build the setup for racing and then make adjustment in my brain, regarding how I drive it, for qually. I will follow your advice regards CCleaner and will also try cleaning the RAM contacts. Is there a way of testing the RAM? I used to have a memory tester on a floppy disc but now I don't have a floppy drive!
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« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2017, 10:39:50 AM +0100 » |
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You can use any bootable USB-stick with memtest If you download a "Clonezilla live" iso and put it on USB you can run memtest , this is a very small linux tool. I never do quali setups, so I use the same for race...
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« Reply #125 on: August 13, 2017, 11:34:11 AM +0100 » |
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I'm now on my second PSU since the race on Wednesday! That's two that I've done in in the past week. Each one fails in the same manner, that is to say that, when the pc is turned off, I notice that the cpu fan keeps moving in short bursts and that the green light on the motherboard blinks on and off in time with it. It will not boot in this state. When I use my testing gizmo on the power supply it shows that the 3.3v rail has failed when I plug in the SATA connection. The two units that have failed have not been top-end units and may just not have been up to the hammering that GPL is giving the cpu. My son-in-law, who has looked at the failed units with more than a little disdain, has provided me with a better PSU and I'm hoping that this one will see me through tonight's race. Being at Monaco I won't be very long! I have cleaned up the old RAM but not yet summoned up the courage to try it for fear of blowing something else!
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« Reply #126 on: August 13, 2017, 11:30:00 PM +0100 » |
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Well I put the extra RAM in, the pc accepted it and the PSU is still running. On the face of it Monaco was a great leap forward but I still had a slow frame rate attack at about mid distance. The difference was that this time there was nobody about to run into me whilst my pc had a hissy-fit! It only lasts three or four seconds but it can be fatal. I think that it is clear that something is running in the background. Probably a scheduled activity designed to mess up my racing!
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« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2017, 01:21:30 PM +0100 » |
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You were threatening to get too good, too soon, so I had to slow you down somehow........................
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« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2017, 01:44:29 PM +0100 » |
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You were threatening to get too good, too soon, so I had to slow you down somehow........................ Ah, its obviously the Bristol Virus! @Axel, I have run the hardware monitor and this is what two laps of Monaco did to it. I'm going to repeat the test with the side taken off the case.
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« Reply #129 on: August 14, 2017, 03:16:32 PM +0100 » |
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Yes, this are way to high CPU temperatures, good is to have 50°C stable at max load. All above 55° is dangerous for the CPU! Seems it throttles down when overheating Maybe some dust in the cooler... Look if all fans are running
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« Reply #130 on: August 14, 2017, 11:49:24 PM +0100 » |
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Yes, this are way to high CPU temperatures, good is to have 50°C stable at max load. All above 55° is dangerous for the CPU! Seems it throttles down when overheating Maybe some dust in the cooler... Look if all fans are running I think that the low fps issue is a separate thing to the cpu running a tad warm. I think that the temperature indicates that it is drawing a lot of current and that this is destroying the PSUs. I still think that the slowmo attackes are the result of another programme hijacking the cpu. If it were temperature related, I would have thought that once it has reached the critical temperature it isn't going to get any better but the slowmo just lasts a few seconds and is gone! Running a three lap training session with the side panel removed resulted in a max temperature of 60 C. But I can't remember if the original test was on-line. Think better cpu cooling is needed.
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« Reply #131 on: August 15, 2017, 08:29:55 PM +0100 » |
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I've had a dig around in Avira and found that it was set to do an automatic update every 2hrs. I can't remember exactly when I booted up the machine before the race but 2hrs could take me to about ten laps in, which is when the fps dropped to single figures.
It is now set to 4hrs.
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« Reply #132 on: August 15, 2017, 09:09:24 PM +0100 » |
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Yes I have set it to 6hrs and do manually force an update when I start the PC before a race PS I just did some investigation about the CPU specs and found it, seems your temperatures are quite normal : http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%20X2%205400+%20-%20ADO5400IAA5DO%20(ADO5400DOBOX).htmlLook if it is possible to reduce the VCore a little to ~1,3V
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« Reply #133 on: August 15, 2017, 11:36:33 PM +0100 » |
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Thanks Axel, I must try to find out which variant I actually have. I think that CPUID will do that.
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