Race dates, circuits and links

[EvilClive]

21 April - Bridgehampton         http://www.cruisekids.com/gpl/bridgehampton/index.html
28 April - Laguna Seca            http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/laguna67/
5 May -  Zandvoort
12 May - Kyalami
19 May -  Brno 65                  http://srmz.net/sub/sergio/brno65/      
26 May - Monza
2 June - Porto                    http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=807
9 June - Mexico
16 June - Jops Siffert
23 June - Watkins Glen
30 June - Croft (short track)        http://sabreteam.speedgeezers.net/sabreteam.html
7 July - Silverstone
14 July - Crystal Palace         http://gplea.rscsites.org/

[b_1_rd]

although not my best results ever, Laguna was good fun. Nice to see a good bunch of drivers turn up.

Thanks to Clive for setting it up, and Nicky for hosting.

[happyal]

Thanks guys for the good racing, I'm still learning the track so I hope I didn't get in anyones way. It was fun

[Al Heller]

Yes very enjoyable & quite valuable practice for the forthcoming race.

So if you win a B.R.E.A.S.T.'s race do you get a cup (or 2?) 

[EvilClive]

Thanks to all those who turned up and enjoyed the fun, maybe we should schedule our races to be unofficial practice sessions for upcoming UKGPL 65 rounds?

The only prize for winning a Breasts race Al, is a big grin  ...plus of course making yourself a marked man for the next outing  

Sorry I could not stay for the second race, real life intervened but was slowly finding the limits for the Brab and tweaking the setup.

I noticed that some people simply imported setups from other circuits, which is usually a good idea. But Laguna runs anticlockwise, so most setups will be offset the wrong way for tyre cambers etc,. If you found your car not behaving it might be worth checking, and switching the cambers???

[happyal]

Thanks to all those who turned up and enjoyed the fun, maybe we should schedule our races to be unofficial practice sessions for upcoming UKGPL 65 rounds?

That would be a great idea, and ideal for me as I need all the practice I can get

Are we dropping the 69 races? That would be a shame as I really enjoy them, but if there isn't the demand for the race we should try something else. My vote is for Thunder Cars

[EvilClive]

Personally I would like to use the 69's, just because they are something different and challenging.

But, there has to be enough enthusiasm and drivers to make it worthwhile. Last night the consensus view seemed to be more 65 mod racing.

Perhaps it would be useful if we can get everyone's view about this? and have a quick vote on who wants to have regular 69 ( or Thundercar?) races after the main 65 event.

[Billy Nobrakes]

Personally I would like to use the 69's, just because they are something different and challenging.

But, there has to be enough enthusiasm and drivers to make it worthwhile. Last night the consensus view seemed to be more 65 mod racing.

Perhaps it would be useful if we can get everyone's view about this? and have a quick vote on who wants to have regular 69 ( or Thundercar?) races after the main 65 event.

Last night in Chat there didn't seem to be an concensus about anything!
Personally I'm not a big fan of 69 mod. Having spent ages trying to get the hang of cars with no downforce the wings feels a bit like cheating & it's another set up variable to wrestle with.
I'm guessing the selection of Laguna was a coincidence but the opportunity of a test run for next weeks championship with a reasonably full grid was a bonus. The scheduled Breasts races don't coincide with the remaining UKGPL calendar. My vote would, therefore, go for a Breasts race, as announced, plus a warm up for the next UKGPL race. (65 mod ~ but can be flexible). I'm not good enough to pitch up without some practice so minimising the amount of tracks works for me.
Anyhow ~ just my opinion.
 

[Hristo Itchov]

I noticed that some people simply imported setups from other circuits, which is usually a good idea. But Laguna runs anticlockwise, so most setups will be offset the wrong way for tyre cambers etc,. If you found your car not behaving it might be worth checking, and switching the cambers???

I copied over my East London setup and reversed the cambers + tire pressures (if not symmetric). Then I did a few laps and adjusted the gears, and bits of the suspension, but overall it worked right out of the box. The main thing is to copy over from a track with similar characteristics, e.g. altitude changes or not, flat or cambered corners, slow or fast corners.

As for running 69s, the problem IMO is you need different specific tracks for 69s. Just like some tracks work better for 65 mod, there are tracks which give much better and comfortable racing with 69s. And there's the problem of making setups for them, which isn't quite possible with these races' 20 minutes practice sessions and I doubt many of us can do additional offline practice.

BTW, can't we have separate threads for reports after each race, so we don't post in the same thread and going off-topic so to speak?

[EvilClive]

Yes Hristo, I realise that I need to post races on their own thread, .........................well at least I do now!!

[NickyIckx]

  big fun it was !!!

results race 1 :

Track: Laguna67             Wed Apr 28 22:54:01 2010

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  14 Hristo Itchov65                  Brab BT7 GBR 1m10.016s             11
 2  21 Göran Jonsson65                  BrabBT11 SWE 1m10.983s   00.967s   14
 3  18 65 evilclive                     BrabBT11 GBR 1m11.380s   01.364s   15
 4  22 natan vix65                      BRM      BEL 1m11.655s   01.639s   15
 5  16 Al Heller65                      BRM      GBR 1m11.850s   01.834s   14
 6  15 Nicky Ickx65                     BrabBT11 RSA 1m12.178s   02.162s   10
 7  10 Steve Bird65                     Lotus    GBR 1m13.430s   03.414s    4
 8  12 Peter Maestro57-65               BrabBT11 GBR 1m15.027s   05.011s    3
 9   9 Alastair Baldwin65               BRM      GBR 1m16.427s   06.411s    6
10  11 Bernie65 Darwin                  Honda    GBR 1m16.504s   06.488s    7
11  17 Alastair Baldwin65               BRM      GBR 1m17.218s   07.202s    5
12   8 Billy Nobrakes                   BrabBT11 GBR 1m58.433s   48.417s    1
13  19 Nicky Ickx65                     BrabBT11 RSA   No time   No time    0

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Track: Laguna67             Wed Apr 28 22:54:01 2010

RACE RESULTS (After 17 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  14 Hristo Itchov65                 Brab BT7 GBR   17  20m40.847s            
 2  16 Al Heller65                     BRM      GBR   17  20m41.291s    00.444s
 3  18 65 evilclive                    BrabBT11 GBR   17  20m46.971s    06.124s
 4  22 natan vix65                     BRM      BEL   17  21m22.504s    41.657s
 5  21 Göran Jonsson65                 BrabBT11 SWE   17  21m25.989s    45.142s
 6  10 Steve Bird65                    Lotus    GBR   17  21m27.826s    46.979s
 7   9 Alastair Baldwin65              BRM      GBR   16  21m18.135s   1 lap(s)
 8  11 Bernie65 Darwin                 Honda    GBR   16  21m22.050s   1 lap(s)
 9   8 Billy Nobrakes                  BrabBT11 GBR   16  21m32.537s   1 lap(s)
10  15 Nicky Ickx65                    BrabBT11 RSA    8  10m08.412s   9 lap(s)
11  17 Alastair Baldwin65              BRM      GBR    0 DidNotStart  17 lap(s)
12  12 Peter Maestro57-65              BrabBT11 GBR    0 DidNotStart  17 lap(s)
13  19 Nicky Ickx65                    BrabBT11 RSA    0 DidNotStart  17 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Hristo Itchov65                   1m10.394s   5
 2  65 evilclive                      1m10.598s  17
 3  Göran Jonsson65                   1m10.814s   9
 4  Al Heller65                       1m11.466s  13
 5  natan vix65                       1m11.548s   7
 6  Nicky Ickx65                      1m12.239s   8
 7  Steve Bird65                      1m12.970s  16
 8  Alastair Baldwin65                1m14.407s  14
 9  Billy Nobrakes                    1m14.767s   8
10  Bernie65 Darwin                   1m14.793s   8
11  Peter Maestro57-65                  No time
12  Alastair Baldwin65                  No time
13  Nicky Ickx65                        No time


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Hristo Itchov65                     (14/17)      82.35
Al Heller65                         (14/17)      82.35
65 evilclive                        (12/17)      70.59
Steve Bird65                        (12/17)      70.59
natan vix65                         (10/17)      58.82
Billy Nobrakes                       (8/16)      50.00
Alastair Baldwin65                   (8/16)      50.00
Bernie65 Darwin                      (7/16)      43.75
Göran Jonsson65                      (7/17)      41.18
Nicky Ickx65                          (5/8)      62.50


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Al Heller65                       0.369          0.549    1m12.433s     17
65 evilclive                      1.473          2.483    1m12.378s     17
Steve Bird65                      1.659          2.337    1m14.819s     17
Hristo Itchov65                   2.113          3.871    1m12.687s     17
Nicky Ickx65                      2.544          3.604    1m15.023s      8
natan vix65                       2.781          3.795    1m14.622s     17
Alastair Baldwin65                3.424          4.198    1m19.058s     16
Bernie65 Darwin                   4.610          6.475    1m19.669s     16
Billy Nobrakes                    5.202          5.993    1m20.266s     16
Göran Jonsson65                   5.453          7.453    1m15.471s     17


All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

Generated with GPL Replay Analyser



results race 2 :

Track: Laguna67             Wed Apr 28 23:57:12 2010

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  21 65 evilclive                     BrabBT11 GBR 1m10.772s             14
 2  17 natan vix65                      BRM      BEL 1m10.809s   00.037s   15
 3  22 Göran Jonsson65                  BrabBT11 SWE 1m11.213s   00.441s   13
 4  16 Al Heller65                      BRM      GBR 1m11.566s   00.794s   15
 5  11 Nicky Ickx65                     BrabBT11 RSA 1m11.929s   01.157s    8
 6  12 Steve Bird65                     BRM      GBR 1m12.531s   01.759s   12
 7  18 Billy Nobrakes                   BrabBT11 GBR 1m13.238s   02.466s   13
 8  14 Bernie65 Darwin                  Honda    GBR 1m14.822s   04.050s   11
 9  15 Alastair Baldwin65               BRM      GBR 1m15.010s   04.238s    6
10  19 Nicky Ickx65                     BrabBT11 RSA   No time   No time    0

All times are official
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Track: Laguna67             Wed Apr 28 23:57:12 2010

RACE RESULTS (After 17 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  16 Al Heller65                     BRM      GBR   17  20m27.213s            
 2  22 Göran Jonsson65                 BrabBT11 SWE   17  20m38.961s    11.748s
 3  12 Steve Bird65                    BRM      GBR   17  21m04.546s    37.333s
 4  17 natan vix65                     BRM      BEL   17  21m11.241s    44.028s
 5  18 Billy Nobrakes                  BrabBT11 GBR   16  20m40.813s   1 lap(s)
 6  14 Bernie65 Darwin                 Honda    GBR   16  20m58.137s   1 lap(s)
 7  11 Nicky Ickx65                    BrabBT11 RSA   13  16m03.127s   4 lap(s)
 8  21 65 evilclive                    BrabBT11 GBR    0 DidNotStart  17 lap(s)
 9  15 Alastair Baldwin65              BRM      GBR    0 DidNotStart  17 lap(s)
10  19 Nicky Ickx65                    BrabBT11 RSA    0 DidNotStart  17 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Göran Jonsson65                   1m10.922s   9
 2  Al Heller65                       1m11.264s  12
 3  natan vix65                       1m11.327s   4
 4  Nicky Ickx65                      1m11.897s  10
 5  Steve Bird65                      1m11.910s  10
 6  Billy Nobrakes                    1m13.922s  16
 7  Bernie65 Darwin                   1m13.940s   9
 8  Alastair Baldwin65                  No time
 9  Nicky Ickx65                        No time
10  65 evilclive                        No time