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August 13, 2017, 10:36:59 PM +0100 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 31 (2017)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 1 1:41.361
69.375mph
1 43:06.029
67.980mph
25 1:42.053
68.905mph
Englebert  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Maserati 250F F1 1955 5 +0.959
68.725mph
2 +24.318
67.347mph
25 1:43.284
68.083mph
Pirelli  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 9 +3.143
67.289mph
3 +1:05.054
66.312mph
25 1:43.828
67.727mph
Continental  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 12 +4.507
66.422mph
4 +1:08.752
66.219mph
25 1:43.844
67.716mph
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Maserati 250F F1 1955 4 +0.851
68.797mph
5 +1:23.438
65.855mph
25 1:43.185
68.149mph
Pirelli  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 7 +2.477
67.720mph
6 +1:35.279
65.564mph
25 1:44.029
67.596mph
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Connaught Type B F1 1955 6 +1.702
68.229mph
7 +1:39.211
65.468mph
25 1:43.327
68.055mph
Pirelli  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 8 +2.697
67.577mph
8 +1L
65.204mph
24 1:44.046
67.585mph
Pirelli  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 13 +9.072
63.676mph
9 +1:28.183
63.056mph
24 1:46.590
65.972mph
Pirelli  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 16 10 +1:48.339
62.585mph
24 1:44.721
67.149mph
Englebert  
MagicArsouille
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 2 +0.189
69.246mph
11 +9L
64.301mph
16 1:42.928
68.319mph
accident
Pirelli  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 10 +3.471
67.078mph
12 +19L
62.775mph
6 1:44.761
67.123mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 15 13 +23L
60.703mph
2 1:46.564
65.988mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 3 +0.673
68.917mph
14 +25L
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accident
Pirelli  
Turkey Machine
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 11 +3.611
66.989mph
15
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Disco
Pirelli  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Maserati 250F F1 1955 16 DNS ---
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Pirelli  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Gordini T16 F1 1955 14 17 ---
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Englebert  

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« on: August 07, 2017, 12:41:06 PM +0100 »

S31 - 55 F1 - Fun Race Monaco

Next Fun event with the 55s takes place at Monaco, the 55s track with the highest brake wear ...


The event is unmoderated but the usual high standards are expected.

Works/Pro drivers should not use a silver car
 
Unlimited Shift R is allowed & there are no Stop & Gos. But please be carefull...


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Date13-08-2017
TrackMonaco
Mod55F1 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage INT long
Race time~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length25 laps
Replay get here


Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

GLA and FUN
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 12:54:57 PM +0100 »

Not Monacane for added machoscism realism then?  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2017, 01:27:00 PM +0100 »

Monocane is not accurate in chicanery.  It's tighter than the real one was, and the camber approaching is tricky too.  Hope remains amongst the debris, for a 100% realistic version someday.
Does anyone know of a fix for the Fez 555 brake indicator light? My 2 minute try showed me that it didn't work...
The recently released Update patch might have a replacement light bulb with it.  BTW, dashboards did not originally have green, yellow or red lightbulbs.  They're a modern GPL aid.  Originally, drivers could more easily feel their limit, and smell burning brakes.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 02:20:38 PM +0100 »

OOOOOOH!!  Martin you are a tease!!   Shocked Shocked
 
Does this mean that the 55 modders are working on a "smellysim"!,  where we will be able to ignore the red lights and detect the deteriorating brakes with our olfactory senses?Huh  All ex Wazas who have been trained to drive blindfolded with a white headband and only by sense of smell will have a huge advantage  Grin Grin Grin

Those guys at Mod Central are so clever. Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2017, 03:22:20 PM +0100 »

I've sensed the Evil smell of victory has thusfar been missing from 1955.  Something else missing from the tracks, is tyre debris caused by overheating.  Tyre failure was modelled in later Sims.  Instead, ours eventually overheat and loose grip, for we talented few who corner askew habitually, or spin several times a lap.

There were no soft compounds before the 1960's.  Hard, old fashioned rubber remained inflexible, up to the point of melting.  No warmup needed for full performance.  Our guru's have stretched our rubberized tyre properties to their limit, to make them more as was. 

GP cars of pre-55 ilk, often needed new tyres mid-race.  That would mean brake fade, and tyre wear for us to battle with, and against.  Mod work has become low on talent, but if an earlier mod is someday completed, we may need to be high on talent to race it.     
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2017, 09:40:11 PM +0100 »

Does this mean that the 55 modders are working on a "smellysim"!,  where we will be able to ignore the red lights and detect the deteriorating brakes with our olfactory senses?Huh 

I had my own version of that a few laps in when approaching the hairpin at the BA race. Hit the brakes and nearly s*!t myself. Didn't smell like brake dust though.

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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 03:36:06 PM +0100 »

It could have been the brakes John! I understand that they tried some very inventive and agricultural compound mixes back in the day.....or that might be pure bullsh*t?? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2017, 09:38:10 PM +0100 »

Lasted all of 20 seconds after the flag dropped before mayhem and my laptop overheated.

New computer needed for Grand Prix Legends. Sad
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 10:41:13 PM +0100 »

Sorry the mayhem was my fault, Tim was very slow starting and I went to the left where Bastian allready was...
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 11:21:05 PM +0100 »

Sorry the mayhem was my fault, Tim was very slow starting and I went to the left where Bastian allready was...

Not to worry Axel, I thought it was a great move.  I passed underneath one of you and was able to concentrate on the cars in front, there being nothing in my mirrors after the first corner.  First time that a Monaco start has ever worked in my favour!

And I've made the podium!!

I started from 5th on the grid but, as Axel has said, 4th and 3rd touched when the flag fell and all hell broke loose. Being up close to the incident helped because the cars were still in the air when I passed. Those behind were not so lucky and I exited T1 in 3rd and with not a soul in my mirrors. Perfect!

I was holding on to the two cars in front until the red one came to grief at the chicane. After that it was just Tim Muttram in front of me. The gap varied a bit as we each managed our brakes and I kept him in sight until about half distance.

I then had my usual low fps attack but this time there was nobody sat on my tail to hit me as I struggled through it. After that Tim was long gone and without me to think about he gradually pulled away.

The backmarkers who I encountered were very well behaved and didn't cause me to compromise my brake management, for which I was most grateful.

Congratulations to Tim on a great drive. I'm not yet fully converted back to gpl mode but I'm getting there. ;-)

Thanks to Axel for running the event. Doubt that I will make next week's race as we are moving house two days later and who knows when the internet will arrive at our new place. However, a full-on mancave is planned with a proper sim racing setup. After a full day of shifting heavy boxes, and the like, my back almost locked up on me as I squirmed about on my office chair. Can't wait!
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2017, 08:46:37 AM +0100 »

That was my first race with UKGPL in the 55 beasts, and it's fair to say I haven't unlocked their potential just yet.

Managed a few laps before a misjudged move on Doni into Tabac ended in disaster. Sorry to see you retire after that Doni, my fault completely and one to learn when we're starting the season proper.

A few laps from then I was struggling with brake management so threw in the towel before I was a menace to any other unfortunate racers.

I was seriously impressed with the leaders managing to brake so late into the corners. When I tried that I cooked them straight away! The engine braking wasn't quite as strong as I was hoping for. More practice is needed methinks.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2017, 08:54:55 AM +0100 »

Struggeling with brakes a bit in the first half especially in the last two corners,
later a bit more conservative but there is still way to go. First Maserati drive,
ok but i just like my silver car.

No worries Axel, i hope you hab a good flight. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 09:55:58 AM +0100 »

Grats to the podium, but especially to Tim who I suspect has been practising with the Gordini and finding ways to make it fly around Monaco.

The pile up at the start effectively killed any chance of getting a taste of champagne, I think I was almost dead last when GPL allowed me to respawn.

Fighting my way back up through the field proved just how difficult it can be in these cars, trying to force the pace with brakes that vanish just when you need them. Another issue that I think I recognised for the first time in the new 55 cars is how difficult it is too avoid someone else's incident when you have no brakes. Twice I came upon road blocks with cars strewn across the track and although I had seen the yellow flags and eased off, there was no way of stopping myself joining in.

 I suspect that Monaco made this more noticeable with the limited space to take avoiding action, but it is something for everyone  to look out for in the coming season.

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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 02:07:10 PM +0100 »

Gave this one a miss because I could not manage the brakes, or manage to drive without them. Looking at the results there were a couple of stand out performances
 Tim dominating the race in the little Gordini & Fran who seems to have worked out these cars. Even in the Merc 3rd place is impressive on what was pretty much a Pro grid.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 02:24:49 PM +0100 »

Gave this one a miss because I could not manage the brakes, or manage to drive without them. Looking at the results there were a couple of stand out performances
 Tim dominating the race in the little Gordini & Fran who seems to have worked out these cars. Even in the Merc 3rd place is impressive on what was pretty much a Pro grid.

Are you going to be changing your logon name to Billy 55 Can'tbrake?   Roll Eyes

Graham Poole came around a couple of weeks back to try out the 55mod.  He thought that six months solid practice might just get him in touch with the back row of the grid.

I'm impressed with the people who can do this as well as the other mods.  To me this is one on its own.  When I drove GPL before, the brake was part of the steering geometry!  You just can't do that with these beasts.  There is nothing quite so gratifying as hearing the tyres squeal as you change down!
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