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  • A6 Salzburgring: October 25, 2017
October 25, 2017, 09:51:31 AM +0100 - Salzburgring - UKAC Season 6 Lotus 25
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
ChrisR
 
Lotus 25 {unknown} 1 1:33.057
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1 31:23.127
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20 1:32.860
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Firestone  
Felix Simoes
 
Lotus 25 {unknown} 3 +0.370
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2 +10.079
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20 1:33.404
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Firestone  
PorcoRosso86
 Magnesium Team
Lotus 25 {unknown} 2 +0.190
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3 +12.200
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20 1:33.533
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Firestone  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
Lotus 25 {unknown} 4 +0.521
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4 +24.678
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20 1:33.480
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Firestone  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Lotus 25 {unknown} 5 +1.772
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5 +46.133
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20 1:35.053
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Firestone  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus 25 {unknown} 7 +2.307
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6 +50.175
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20 1:35.179
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Firestone  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Lotus 25 {unknown} 8 +2.318
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7 +53.643
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20 1:35.595
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Firestone  
Sutol
 
Lotus 25 {unknown} 6 +2.171
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8 +55.327
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20 1:34.868
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Firestone  
Walter Conn
 REV
Lotus 25 {unknown} 11 +5.354
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9 +2L
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18 1:37.286
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Firestone  
picnic
 Team Shark
Lotus 25 {unknown} 10 +3.359
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10 +6L
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14 1:35.230
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Firestone  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Lotus 25 {unknown} 9 +3.088
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11 +1.732
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14 1:35.310
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Firestone  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 25 {unknown} DNS ---
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Firestone  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus 25 {unknown} ---
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Firestone  
APEXTECHUSA
 Supersonic Racing
Lotus 25 {unknown} ---
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Firestone  

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QUALIFICATION: PorcoRosso86 hits the tyre barrier at the first chicane in his 1st, 3rd, 4th and 6th timed lap. His 6th lap with a cut was his fastest, which will result in a qualification ban for his next race.


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RACE: PorcoRosso86 hits the tyre barrier in his 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 10th lap, with the 4th lap cut being the most severe. I didn't see him gain a direct advantage from it, so no penalty in thee cases.

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 03:21:57 PM +0100 »

I do a little video with some different cuts, all these without penalties.
I think that only the first (without cuts) could be right

https://youtu.be/ExiiWBRWzDM
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 05:43:29 PM +0100 »

IMPORTANT

To clarify what is allowed in the first chicane. You can use all the road up untill the tyres. Hitting the tyre barrier near the apex is considered a cut, even by an inch. Now please enjoy my paint skills  Grin:



 

The video from PorcoRosso86 also shows what is allowed and what is not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExiiWBRWzDM&feature=youtu.be


We need Enna Pergusa's tyre barriers  Evil
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 05:45:45 PM +0100 »

I do a little video with some different cuts, all these without penalties.
I think that only the first (without cuts) could be right

https://youtu.be/ExiiWBRWzDM

You are correct and I've added your video to the post above. Thanks Smiley.
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2017, 05:51:59 PM +0100 »

Just ask all to be honest and not cut the chicane, last time I drove this track in P&G the barrels and tyres were solid, a wipe out if you hit them.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2017, 05:55:26 PM +0100 »

Just an idea...
If we try put the "limit on tyres out" on 1, does it work?

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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2017, 06:01:43 PM +0100 »

IMPORTANT

To clarify what is allowed in the first chicane. You can use all the road up untill the tyres. Hitting the tyre barrier near the apex is considered a cut, even by an inch. Now please enjoy my paint skills  Grin:


We need Enna Pergusa's tyre barriers  Evil

Thanks a lot for the clarification, Jeffrey! S!
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2017, 06:09:15 PM +0100 »

Just ask all to be honest and not cut the chicane, last time I drove this track in P&G the barrels and tyres were solid, a wipe out if you hit them.

I don't really expect a lot of problems with the cutting, but it's better to have it specified beforehand and not have it open to discussion afterwards.

Just an idea...
If we try put the "limit on tyres out" on 1, does it work?

I don't know how well AC handles it then. I'd rather leave it as it is, as that gives people the opportunity to back off when they cut and not get a drive through forced. If you accidentilly cut, just make sure you don't gain by it. If I get a replay, I'll be watching  detective
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 06:31:00 PM +0100 »

And what happens if the cut is during your fastest qualify time. How will that be treated?

Just asking...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 06:37:36 PM +0100 »

And what happens if the cut is during your fastest qualify time. How will that be treated?

Just asking...  Roll Eyes

Hmm, good one. Maybe qually ban for the next race?
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 06:50:18 PM +0100 »

And what happens if the cut is during your fastest qualify time. How will that be treated?

Just asking...  Roll Eyes

Hmm, good one. Maybe qually ban for the next race?

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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2017, 07:22:22 PM +0100 »

Ha just proves how different the mind set is of you aliens to us mortals. I just spent an hour online and didn't once attempt to cut that inside corner  angel I actually assumed it would result in a smashed car hitting the tyre stack so from first lap I kept avoiding it, whereas you guys exploited it for a faster laptime!  hammer Grin

Glad it's been reported and dealt with before the event  Smiley good work gents

This track turned out trickier than I expected. That first chicane is a bugger braking from top speed and downshifting (especially for us manual shift guys  Wink ) should make for a good race again though.

So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  Grin
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2017, 07:33:07 PM +0100 »

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So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  Grin

Here's a 1:33.5 without cutting the chicane Tongue
https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2017, 07:43:53 PM +0100 »

Just check times on T1 (and relative speed on chicane), 36,7-36,6 is maybe a good correct T1. I'm doing 1.33.4 with a correct chicane.

Nevertheless i think this chicane will be a serious problem.

Maybe you can put solid tires?
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2017, 07:49:34 PM +0100 »

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So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  Grin

Here's a 1:33.5 without cutting the chicane Tongue
https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY

Excellent lap, dude, you catching a new subscriber Smiley
I saw that your best is 1.33.3 with the cut chicane (please correct me, but I saw that your max speed on chicane was exactly the mine when I cutted) So we can say that the advantages is around 0.3, 0.5 seconds?
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2017, 08:30:00 PM +0100 »

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So all you guys on 1:33 cut the chicane ? Makes me fastest legit racer  Grin

Here's a 1:33.5 without cutting the chicane Tongue
https://youtu.be/4wGHADUmKdY

Excellent lap, dude, you catching a new subscriber Smiley
I saw that your best is 1.33.3 with the cut chicane (please correct me, but I saw that your max speed on chicane was exactly the mine when I cutted) So we can say that the advantages is around 0.3, 0.5 seconds?

Yes, I think that by cutting the chicane you can be around 0.3 faster
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