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« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2017, 08:11:41 PM +0000 » |
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Its a bit telling when the guy organizing it doesnt want to run it anymore!
I missed so many races due to work that it feels like loose sand to me, like a bunch of fun races. That doesn't help motivation for practice .
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« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2017, 08:14:25 PM +0000 » |
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There are cars not well suited for online races, and there are aswell track suited for online races. Jeffrey has been brave with the choice of the tracks, but the results are clear. 17 drivers managed to see the checkered flag at Brands Hatch and 12 at Zandvoort. Than we have an average of 8 people for the rest of the races. I do like statistics and numbers often are clearer than words.
I'm here for those cars and those tracks. I like statistics too: in 7 races i had 0 accidents. I agree with FullMetalGasket, " Half the challenge of this type of car is keeping it on the track and out of the scenery and opponents".
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« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2017, 08:37:23 PM +0000 » |
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« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2017, 08:51:23 PM +0000 » |
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I like statistics too: in 7 races i had 0 accidents.
Anyone who like statistics knows that a sample of just 1 element is simply UNRELEVANT, NON REPRESENTATIVE. You told a lie. You don't like statistics. I agree with FullMetalGasket, "Half the challenge of this type of car is keeping it on the track and out of the scenery and opponents".
In fact I told that we have quite lost the challenge. Am I completely wrong?
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« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2017, 08:57:26 PM +0000 » |
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I've enjoyed all the races so far in this series. Great to race at these historic charismatic circuits. The car is a handful but once you've got to grips with its nuances it really is rewarding. Jeffrey, big thumbs up from me. Just an aside, did you notice the old classic cars in the surrounding car parks? Loved that little touch
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« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2017, 09:13:49 PM +0000 » |
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Just my 5 cents 50 laps min. of practice on server during the week before the race. At race day. 15 mins of practice, 35 of qual and the the rest of the time as race. No partecipation at the race day if haven't complete the 50 laps. I and Fabri tested in a little champ series some months ago with these rules, and worked very well.
Are you kidding me? I did no practice, I started last, I watched the carnage and did not create it and finished 3rd. It wasn't me doing no practice that caused any problems! It's really just as simple as these tracks are narrow, lap 1 could be run with more caution and it isn't and people aren't adjusting to cold brakes, cold tyres and other cars on the track. If I haven't learnt the track enough by the time the race starts I wouldn't start. Lack of practice has nothing to do with it. Being sensible has everything to do with it.
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« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2017, 09:19:26 PM +0000 » |
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Next track should be a bit easier.
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« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2017, 09:25:54 PM +0000 » |
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Voting to restart is just annoying (sorry Matteo). Those of us that managed to avoid carnage (luck and experience and skill, in that order) is very annoying to ever see people asking for restarts. If we knew restarts were an option people would be even more cavalier than they already are! If SRou ever allows restarts for anything other than server problems count me out.
I actually think not practicing is advantage to having a clean start BECAUSE every lap i do i run on cold tyres and cold brakes so come race start I am more prepared to start with the same conditions than those that spend 15 minutes warming their car up to then find a completely different characteristic to deal with again. These cars, everyone should know by know are really difficult when cold (and pretty difficult when warm!).
One of the factors recently though are the tracks. Good for cars that weave all over the place and spend half their time sideways they are not (thanks yoda). They are way too narrow and long straights with very slow corners at the end with cars that have rubbish brakes are not good for racing. Did I enjoy driving on the tracks? Some of them, but they are incredibly likely to increase the number of incidents because of their very nature. You put these cars on a modern GP track with wide corners and this would not happen. As much as its nostalgic and all that, it's not good for racing.
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« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2017, 09:38:38 PM +0000 » |
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Case closed, lesson learned, wiser to the next round
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« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2017, 09:48:59 PM +0000 » |
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Those of us that managed to avoid carnage...
...managed to avoid the carnage because I had no other way to go except inside Felix car, and tapped him from behind. That tap unlocked the situation for those who were behind me and for myself... until I found Felix car again horizontal to the track 200 meters later. If I had managed to brake and stop completely my car before the bridge somoene would have surely tapped me, nobody would have had the space necessary to pass in that situation. And it does makes no sense to stop completely a car at the first corner when you got 10 cars behind you. I guess I did the best I could in that situation. Some people was lucky, not me. I don't think to be less experienced than a lot of driver here in avoiding crashes, and with the skill in that situations you can clean your bottom
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« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2017, 07:48:39 AM +0000 » |
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Just to clarify my opinion, I would prefer a re-run of a race when this situation arises, all my luck, experience and skill deserted me on Wed, meaning hours of practice done to avoid this scenario was in vain.
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« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2017, 10:07:12 AM +0000 » |
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IMHO because you can reset to pits, wait a penalty time, then set off there is no need for restarts except for server crashes. If you are so eager that you cause an incident you should expect to have some penalty. if you were a victim, then that hurts, but it is not the end of the race for you. If it's a mass pile up, then others will be restarting from the pits as well, so you will not be alone.
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« Reply #72 on: December 01, 2017, 10:19:38 AM +0000 » |
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If it's a mass pile up, then others will be restarting from the pits as well, so you will not be alone.
I simply thought that was not allowed to rejoin the race after a retire. So I quit. If it's allowed to do something like that, IMO it's worse than a restart. Just my two cents.
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« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2017, 10:28:23 AM +0000 » |
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I suspect there isn't a rule about it because when the rules were written this was never an option in the games that were used. I must admit I didn't know about it in AC until recently and maybe it can be turned off in server options?
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« Reply #74 on: December 01, 2017, 11:41:21 AM +0000 » |
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I suspect there isn't a rule about it because when the rules were written this was never an option in the games that were used. I must admit I didn't know about it in AC until recently and maybe it can be turned off in server options?
I don't see the problem with people continuing to race. They'll probably be way behind, but at least they can have fun driving the car.
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