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October 17, 2017, 08:37:55 PM +0100 - Sebring (Classic) - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Sports Car Trophy (67)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 2 +0.654
115.128mph
1 46:12.602
114.584mph
17 2:41.132
115.979mph
Firestone  
GregT
 Team Baarf
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 1 2:41.670
115.593mph
2 +32.977
113.237mph
17 2:42.623
114.916mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 3 +5.105
112.055mph
3 +1:40.928
110.559mph
17 2:45.804
112.711mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 6 +9.219
109.357mph
4 +1:55.985
109.983mph
17 2:47.756
111.400mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 7 +10.322
108.656mph
5 +1L
107.567mph
16 2:50.323
109.721mph
Goodyear  
Carlos Cendejas
 
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 9 +23.006
101.193mph
6 +1:04.795
105.117mph
16 2:53.246
107.870mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 8 +11.749
107.762mph
7 +1:26.093
104.336mph
16 2:51.985
108.660mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 4 +5.879
111.537mph
8 +6L
107.245mph
11 2:48.409
110.968mph
Disco
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Ford GT40 MkIV GT 1967 11 9 +7L
105.389mph
10 2:49.774
110.076mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 5 +6.089
111.398mph
10 +14L
103.878mph
3 2:54.641
107.008mph
Disco
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 11 DNS ---
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Firestone  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 10 12 ---
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Firestone  

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GT 1967
2:41.670
115.593mph
GregT
Qualifying
Ford GT40 MkIVOctober 17, 2017, 08:37:55 PM +0100
S3267GT
Grand Prix Legends
GT 1967
2:41.132
115.979mph
MagicArsouille
Race
Ferrari 330/P4October 17, 2017, 08:37:55 PM +0100
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« on: October 11, 2017, 02:53:57 PM +0100 »

Season 32 Sports Car Trophy – Round 2 - Sebring International Raceway

The second round of the Season 32 GT races finds us at Sebring, we will be racing on the International Raceway as used in 1967.
The first 12 Hours of Sebring was held on March 15, 1952, and the event would grow to become a major international race. In 1959, the racetrack hosted the first Formula One Grand Prix in the United States. Due to the poor attendance and high costs, the next United States Grand Prix was held at Riverside.

For much of Sebring's history, the track followed a 5.2 miles (8.4 km) layout. In 1967, the Webster Turn between the hairpin and the top of the track was removed and replaced with the faster Green Park Chicane, which was closer to the hairpin and allowed a flat-out run through a very fast corner to the top of the track and the runway; this made the circuit 50 yards longer. The circuit was also widened. Many of these changes were prompted by the 1966 12 Hours where 5 people were killed during the race. Another dangerous section was the Warehouse straight; after a crash where a Porsche went into one of the warehouses and into a crowd, the organizers installed a chicane to move the Warehouse straight further away from the warehouses and buildings. We will use the 1967 layout.

Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
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Race date = 17-10-2017
GPL mod = 67GT
60fps patch used = 60fpsV1
Track = Sebring
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 17 laps
Damage Model = Int (with 1x shift+r allowed, followed by a stop+go.)
Replay = here

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Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the Sports Car Trophy will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement.  See below.


Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
Cookie
12
Pro
DLogan
10
Pro
Doni Yourth
10
Pro
EvilClive
10
Pro
FullMetalGasket
10
Pro
MagicArsouille
5
Pro
Phil Thornton
20
Am
Rainier
15
Am
Samb
10
Pro
bagrupp
20
Am
Gareth
20
Am
Geoff65
15
Am
maddog
20
Am
Greg Taber
12
Pro
Carlos Cendejas
10
Pro
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 10:15:07 PM +0100 »

BLAST!  Having to pass on this 2nd of the Florida rounds.  I'm sincerely hoping that it will be my last DNE.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 11:44:06 AM +0100 »

Sorry to hear that you will miss out on this race Doni.  Sad

But, now that I am back from R&R it will be my chance to join this series at last. So I hope to re-new my knowledge of these cars and enjoy some tin top racing. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2017, 10:28:30 PM +0100 »

Quite a fun race.  The tyre pressure patch certainly helps with the handling and braking.  Still too many mistakes to keep up with the pack. Hoping for better on a circuit I'm more familiar with Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2017, 10:32:24 PM +0100 »

The good: I was able to join! Cheesy

The not-so-good: lap 13 or so, I was chasing Dave R. to regain my 5th place (again  Tongue), when over-exuberant right ankle put me off track and behind some barriers. Knowing it's a pretty easy in-out pitlane here, I opted to take a shift-r and do the stop-go instead of trying to work my way back out.

Then I remembered that I'd already done a shift-r and stop-go for a blown engine lap 5 I think it was. Stopped and retired immediately.

So... throwing myself on the mercy of the mods to keep what'll be 7th (or 8th) place points.   Embarrassed

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2017, 10:00:36 AM +0100 »

!!!!!! I forgot that we had S/R available and when I got stuck in some haybales, I hit the escape key and quit  Undecided Undecided Undecided

My first race in GT's for a couple of years, and it showed. Great fun whilst it lasted but I was far too inconsistent to hope to get any sort of result.
 I was so rusty that I almost opted for the super safe Porsche, but on a circuit like Sebring I felt that it might have been just a little too slow. So, I chose the Mirage hoping that I could put a setup together, in the 45minutes before the race. 
The setup was just a little too tail happy, even for me!! and I found myself struggling to avoid side swiping haybales and barriers on corner exits. Apologies to anyone who was affected by a Mirage that might have been a race car in the right hands...... Roll Eyes

Maybe I will get some more practice in before the next rounds  Wink


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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 04:25:17 PM +0100 »

Congrats Tristan and Axel!

The Ferrari was too strong and so was Tristan. If I had a 5 speed transmission, I may have been able to take advantage of some of Tristan's early mistakes. The Ferrari really pulls away from the Mk. 4 while accelerating. I quickly saw I'd never be able to pass. Especially after seeing I'd have to tail Tristan onto one of the runways and then out brake him to pass. I doubt the Mk4 will out brake anything newer than 1955.

I used the tow to stay close for a few laps. Then I made a small mistake and lost a little distance. Then Tristan began lapping in the 2:41s and I knew I'd never catch him. I stayed close enough to capitalize on any mistake but soon after Phil let me lap him my engine failed. I was braking to enter the first runway with no throttle and suddenly I got a little poof. The crappy Ford engine died with a whimper. It sure wasn't a bang!

After a reset and pit stop, I pushed it hard until the end. I tried to improve my fast lap. I got within .1 seconds on the last lap but 17 gallons of fuel was too much weight to get a good and fast race lap.

I was so rusty that I almost opted for the super safe Porsche, but on a circuit like Sebring I felt that it might have been just a little too slow.

If you could have got into Axel's slipstream the tow may have allowed the Porsche to keep pace.

Thank guys. And thanks Axel, you're getting me to learn to drive some of the other GTs well. I've finally made some setups that work well in the big block GT40s and Mirage at some of the more difficult circuits.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2017, 08:49:29 PM +0100 »

Congrats to Tris, Greg & Axel! That was a good blast while it lasted. I haven't driven the GTs for a while and really struggled mastering the layout of Sebring. Enjoyed the first few laps chasing Axel, but he had enough pace in reserve and I made far too many errors to be a threat (and too slow)  Grin. Ended up 4th in the end after a lonely drive.

Just out of interest what brake bias were people running? Even with the tyre pressure fix I was suffering with the wheel locking bug severely. I do remember it was most prevalent with the big Fords so it could be as simple as car choice.
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2017, 10:54:51 PM +0100 »

Just out of interest what brake bias were people running?

I used 51%. I used 52% at Daytona. I'm not sure what brake bias I've been using in my recent testing at Nurburgring and Targa Florio. It's likely 52% since I based those setups off my work at Daytona. I've found the spring rate and ride height play a part too regarding locking the wheels under braking.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2017, 04:23:56 PM +0100 »

Thanks for letting me know Greg. I had more front bias at 54%. My setup did have a stiff spring rate and low ride height, so I'll be tweaking those figures for Le Mans next time out.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2017, 07:52:55 PM +0100 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
Cookie
14
Pro
DLogan
12
Pro
Doni Yourth
10
Pro
EvilClive
10
Pro
FullMetalGasket
10
Pro
MagicArsouille
0
Pro
Phil Thornton
20
Am
Rainier
17
Am
Samb
12
Pro
bagrupp
22
Am
Gareth
20
Am
Geoff65
15
Am
maddog
20
Am
Greg Taber
14
Pro
Carlos Cendejas
15
Pro
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