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October 24, 2017, 08:36:03 PM +0100 - Indianapolis (Oval) - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 1 1:03.294
142.217mph
1 48:24.973
139.439mph
45 1:03.558
141.627mph
Continental  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 3 +0.761
140.528mph
2 +30.770
137.978mph
45 1:04.050
140.539mph
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Maserati 250F F1 1955 2 +0.588
140.908mph
3 +39.598
137.564mph
45 1:04.148
140.324mph
Pirelli  
MagicArsouille
 
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 10 +1.473
138.983mph
4 +50.658
137.049mph
45 1:04.310
139.970mph
Continental  
ReiverEcosse
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 5 +1.071
139.851mph
5 (+2) +1:03.371
136.462mph
45 1:03.985
140.681mph
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 15 +2.266
137.302mph
6 +1:03.580
136.453mph
45 1:04.408
139.758mph
Continental  
DLogan
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 6 +1.072
139.849mph
7 +1:03.732
136.446mph
45 1:04.056
140.526mph
Pirelli  
Carlos Cendejas
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 8 +1.413
139.112mph
8 +1L
135.569mph
44 1:04.842
138.822mph
Pirelli  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 11 +1.915
138.041mph
9 +16.069
134.828mph
44 1:04.899
138.700mph
Englebert  
GregT
 Team Baarf
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 12 +1.951
137.965mph
10 +16.315
134.817mph
44 1:05.125
138.219mph
Englebert  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lancia D50 F1 1955 14 +2.082
137.688mph
11 +31.997
134.101mph
44 1:05.315
137.817mph
Pirelli  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 9 +1.429
139.077mph
12 +2L
133.172mph
43 1:04.756
139.006mph
Continental  
Ronniepeterson
 
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 4 +1.017
139.968mph
13 +12.544
132.600mph
43 1:04.867
138.769mph
Continental  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 13 +1.999
137.863mph
14 +14.916
132.492mph
43 1:05.266
137.920mph
Pirelli  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Maserati 250F F1 1955 16 +3.701
134.361mph
15 +19.871
132.268mph
43 1:06.021
136.343mph
Pirelli  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 17 +4.612
132.558mph
16 +47.594
131.027mph
43 1:07.378
133.597mph
Englebert  
Gareth
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 18 +15.753
113.875mph
17 +21L
135.594mph
24 1:04.479
139.604mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Will Tway
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 555 SS F1 1955 7 +1.197
139.578mph
18 +28L
129.372mph
17 1:05.782
136.838mph
Disco
Englebert  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Gordini T16 F1 1955 19 19 DNS ---
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Englebert  

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Ronnie and Dave both reported this as Lap 19, but nothing happened on Lap 19, so I spent several long minutes going forward for 5 laps and then back, until I found Lap 17!! At which point my replay shows Reiver and Ronnie exchanging paint samples??
Reiver is faster into T3 and holds a tighter line, it looks like he thought he had completed the pass and allows his car to drift out towards the wall. Unfortunately Ronnie is still alongside and they tangle.
Ronnie was in Reiver's blind spot but Reiver should have been more careful until he could actually see Ronnie in his mirror before moving across.
Penalty for Reiver moving across the track


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Lap 36 Reiver is closing fast on Doni and has the advantage of the tow plus a faster car.
He has admitted his fault and recognised that he was attempting a pass that was just not possible at that point. However Doni did suffer and I feel that a penalty is in order.
Penalty avoidable rear end collision 1 place


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Lap 13 Ronnie is running the low line in his Merc through T1/T2 and is closing on Fran who is running a wider line. The speed of the Merc gains more ground approaching T3 but does not get an overlap. Ronnie has been just about invisible to Fran for 3 corners and he turns in for T3 unaware that Ronnie is poking his car into a vanishing gap. There is contact and Fran suffers because he is on the outside. The accident is made worse because C.Cendejas is shadowing Ronnie and gives him an extra punt.
I am calling this a Racing Incident, but with an advisory to all 3 drivers. Indianapolis is a special case and racing on ovals often involves cars in very close proximity for extended periods.
Fran might have been aware that a car was gaining on him and had moved into his blind spot. Maybe he could have played safe and taken a wider line?
Ronnie was aiming for a gap that might well get closed and had not achieved any overlap to claim the inside line.
C.Cendejas could se the action unfolding ahead and could have just lifted slightly to give himself a better chance of avoiding any contact.
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2017, 08:50:20 AM +0100 »

Don't take the heaviest car...

Hmm............  Interesting.  The corners are a bigger proportion of this track than first meets the eye.

Arriving at turns one and three with more speed doesn't seem to help much as the SL doesn't have any more grip than the others and thus takes more turning due to its weight.

Must investigate the other options.   Grin

Since brakes are not required perhaps I can wind up the elastic band in the Gordini really tight!   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2017, 12:50:32 PM +0100 »

Before we dive into the lion's mouth later today, I'd just like to say that I'm really pleased to see this on the sked.  Not a proper Grand Prix venue by any means but back in the day, the Indianapolis 500 Sweepstakes race was part of the WDC.  In my '55 mod trials some time ago, I managed speeds that would have put our mod cars on the grid so why not give this a try?  Thanks, again...  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2017, 08:07:12 PM +0100 »

Well, if it were not for the fact that this race is part of the season I just wouldn't bother with it.

I just do not have a clue when it comes to ovals!  Angry

Damage limitation is all I can hope for!
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2017, 08:50:05 PM +0100 »

Just turn left......sounds simple enough!! wacko
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 10:21:56 PM +0100 »

Not the return I was hoping for. So sorry to Dean in T2 and anybody else I caused harm to. Went over the wall and bailed before causing more harm. Hope to improve as the season goes on.

Cheers,

Thanks Cookie for hosting.

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2017, 10:27:50 PM +0100 »

Thanks to all for some good racing. A few too many unfortunate contacts which slowed mine and other peoples progress, but no hard feelings here. Grats again to Sam, Axel and Clive (fill her up next time!!!!!!!).
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2017, 10:28:15 PM +0100 »

Just turn left......sounds simple enough!! wacko

I really do hope that I never have to do that again!
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2017, 10:28:41 PM +0100 »

I have to apologize to Carlos who I tagged coming into turn one or three (they all blurred together).  Big wreck and he was going really well.  I'm sorry pal!

*Edit*  It may not have been Carlos, it was whoever was in the Blue Ferrari I must apologize profusely to.

That was utterly utterly terrifying all round.  50 minutes of mental horror.
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 10:34:24 PM +0100 »

That was utterly utterly terrifying all round.  50 minutes of mental horror.
Great result in only your third race!
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 10:37:56 PM +0100 »

Woohoo! A Grand Slam  Grin. Probably won't achieve that ever again so I'll milk it for what it's worth  Wink.

I've never driven round an oval in a competitive race before (there was a fun race a while back and I remember doing terribly!), so did some bed time reading on how to setup a car for an oval. It seemed to do the trick. The Merc was great to drive this round, with easy controllable slides without the front right suffering too much on the temperature front.

Managed Pole after a generous tow and spent the first half of the race desperately trying to distance myself between Clive. That was a hopeful thought; Clive never left my mirrors. Sadly he had to fuel save in the latter half which allowed me to break free and have a clear run to the flag.

Thanks all for being generous towards being lapped. Towards the end Dean, Bastian and Reiver were having a battle royale for 5th place. I had a grandstand seat, but with the three of them battling hard in each other's slipstream I didn't have the legs to overtake! All seemed reluctant to lift off (understandable considering the circumstances with so few laps to go) so eventually backed off to allow them another lap of battling. Always glad to bag another win all the same.

Congrats to Axel and Clive for their podium slots. Special mention to Reiver for an excellent 5th. Well done!
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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 10:38:05 PM +0100 »

That was utterly utterly terrifying all round.  50 minutes of mental horror.
Great result in only your third race!

I just wish it had been incident free.  The last few laps it was bagrupp and Dean and me swapping positions over fifth.  The scariest high wire act I've ever been on.  They were magnificent by the way!  No quarter asked or given.
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2017, 10:39:08 PM +0100 »

I have to apologize to Carlos who I tagged coming into turn one or three (they all blurred together).  Big wreck and he was going really well.  I'm sorry pal!

*Edit*  It may not have been Carlos, it was whoever was in the Blue Ferrari I must apologize profusely to.
If you are feeling particularly guilty you can always report the incident and the moderators will look at it (people normally report other drivers but you can report yourself  Grin ).  There is a link under the race results table.  Just make sure you enter the correct replay time in this format  00h00m00s.  That way the moderators will be able to find the incident you are talking about.
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« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2017, 10:39:59 PM +0100 »

Towards the end Dean, Bastian and Reiver were having a battle royale for 5th place. I had a grandstand seat, but with the three of them battling hard in each other's slipstream I didn't have to legs to overtake! All seemed reluctant to lift off (understandable considering the circumstances with so few laps to go) so eventually backed off to allow them another lap of battling. Always glad to bag another win all the same.

I'm glad you enjoyed the view.  From my point of view it was pant wettingly terrifying.  I'd have been more than happy if you'd decided to end it there and then!  Wink
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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2017, 10:43:09 PM +0100 »

The last few laps it was bagrupp and Dean and me swapping positions over fifth.  The scariest high wire act I've ever been on.  They were magnificent by the way!  No quarter asked or given.
Yes I was watching the action from my lapped position behind Sam.  Looked pretty clean driving to me.  You've learnt a lot in 3 races.  Your real name isn't Max Verstappen is it  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2017, 10:45:53 PM +0100 »

Oval racing is special, so you have to find a good setup of a specialist! Then it is great FUN!!!

It was fun in 3pack until I did touch the gras inside T2 and lost the tow to Sam and Clive...
Clive had fuel miscalculated so I grabbed 2nd...
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