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November 05, 2017, 09:38:20 PM +0000 - Spa (1947-78) - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Lalethor
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 1 3:30.310
150.091mph
1 46:07.045
148.300mph
13 3:31.142
149.499mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 3 +3.640
147.537mph
2 +47.139
145.816mph
13 3:34.154
147.396mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 8 +7.794
144.727mph
3 +1:53.866
142.438mph
13 3:39.708
143.670mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 6 +4.962
146.631mph
4 +1L
143.122mph
12 3:37.338
145.237mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 16 5 +10L
143.049mph
3 3:34.558
147.119mph
Disco
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 11 +10.282
143.095mph
6 +12.108
140.480mph
3 3:40.477
143.169mph
Disco
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 14 +15.415
139.841mph
7 +21.342
138.582mph
3 3:39.852
143.576mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 12 +10.385
143.028mph
8 +11L
135.924mph
2 3:45.156
140.194mph
Disco
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 13 +13.167
141.247mph
9 +0.917
135.656mph
2 3:41.824
142.300mph
Disco
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 10 +8.191
144.464mph
10 +12L
137.840mph
1 3:43.666
141.128mph
accident
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 4 +3.931
147.337mph
11 +13L
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Disco
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 5 +4.286
147.093mph
12
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 7 +7.778
144.738mph
13
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 9 +7.894
144.661mph
14
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
4 UKGPL
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 15 16 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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« on: November 01, 2017, 11:13:12 PM +0000 »

Season 32 Historic Trophy – Round 4 - Spa-Francorchamps

The fourth race in the Historic series takes us to Spa-Francorchamps in Belgium.  Designed in 1920 the original triangle-shaped course used public roads between the Belgian towns of Francorchamps, Malmedy, and Stavelot. The track was intended to have hosted its inaugural race in August 1921, however the first car race was held at the circuit in 1922. Spa was the fastest road circuit in Europe at the time, and it had a nasty reputation for being dangerous and very fast- it was a circuit known to be one for the brave, and most drivers were frightened of it. The old Spa circuit was unique in that speeds were consistently high with hardly any let-up at all for 3–4 minutes. This made it an extraordinarily difficult mental challenge (& ridiculously easy to crash).
 
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IP Address = 2.24.206.249
Race date = 05-11-2017
GPL mod = 66F1
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = Spa67
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 13 laps
Damage Model = PRO
Replay = here

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Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the Historics will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice, 2 litre or 3 litre, for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement.  See below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex   
4
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Arf Arf Arf
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
21
Am
DLogan   
14
Pro
Doni Yourth   
25
Pro
EvilClive
16
Pro
francesco   
19
Am
FullMetalGasket
16
Pro
MagicArsouille   
3
Pro
Phil Thornton
23
Am
Rainier
21
Am
bagrupp
14
Am
fpolicardi   
14
Am
Gareth   
26
Am
JonnyO   
20
Am
Robert Fleurke   
10
Pro
Ronniepeterson
31
Pro
Lalethor
9
Pro
Cookie
7
Pro
Syd Drake
20
Pro
Geoff65
20
Am
Kai J.Daum
20
Am
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 06:49:33 PM +0000 »

Hoping to take part in this race with my new PC.

 The last 48hrs have been a steep learning curve about the pitfalls of Win 10 and older software  Undecided

The biggest hurdle was getting my G25 operational again, Win 10 did not want to allow the Profiler to initialise. But some deep digging on the web unearthed a carefully hidden piece of software from Logitech that removed all the old drivers, and provided an updated version that works.

I am now able to run GPL with everything maxed out and hopefully no FPS drops on grids where 10 FPS was the norm for most starts  Sad

GPL did lock up and crash windows on one occasion and in the process it deleted my driver profile from GEM??? It still exists in the GPL Folder but no longer exists in GEM, despite restarting GEM and the PC??  Anyone got any smart ideas???
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 08:16:09 PM +0000 »

Look into your gem.ini in your Documents\GEM+ folder.

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 09:55:02 PM +0000 »

Made 14th to 3rd in 3 1/3 laps, then binned it into the shrubbery. :doh:

note: this report may as well have been copied from the many times I've done the exact same dang thing. I love Spa, but results don't show it. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 09:56:18 PM +0000 »

Really enjoyed lap 1 then on lap 2 got very bad frame rate at Stavelot and I couldn't control the car and crashed out.  Very disappointing.  I always get bad frame rate when chat messages appear.  I have in-car chat turned off but if someone retires there is always a message that says someone has disconnected.  I can't stop these messages appearing but neither can I find a way of stopping them dropping my frame rate to 10 and below which makes the car too difficult to control.  Does anybody else have similar problems?
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 10:24:15 PM +0000 »

Really enjoyed lap 1 then on lap 2 got very bad frame rate at Stavelot and I couldn't control the car and crashed out.  Very disappointing.  I always get bad frame rate when chat messages appear.  I have in-car chat turned off but if someone retires there is always a message that says someone has disconnected.  I can't stop these messages appearing but neither can I find a way of stopping them dropping my frame rate to 10 and below which makes the car too difficult to control.  Does anybody else have similar problems?

Can't contribute much Phil but in an early '55 race at Spa I crashed out early and then watched the rest of the race.  The screen stutters were diabolical, whilst I was watching, until I realised that I still had the chat window open.  When I closed it, all was back to normal.  My pc is only just able to cope with Spa67 at 60fps and the frame rate often dips to around the thirty mark.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 10:57:09 PM +0000 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex   
2
Pro
Arf Arf Arf
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
15
Am
DLogan   
8
Pro
Doni Yourth   
19
Pro
EvilClive
17
Pro
francesco   
13
Am
FullMetalGasket
17
Pro
MagicArsouille   
3
Pro
Phil Thornton
17
Am
Rainier
15
Am
bagrupp
6
Am
fpolicardi   
12
Am
Gareth   
26
Am
JonnyO   
20
Am
Robert Fleurke   
10
Pro
Ronniepeterson
35
Pro
Lalethor
3
Pro
Cookie
1
Pro
Syd Drake
20
Pro
Geoff65
20
Am
Kai J.Daum
20
Am
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 08:17:54 AM +0000 »

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I always get bad frame rate when chat messages appear.

Same for me but from the start,arrived at nasta i have faced the curve in the usual way but the car have had a strange behaviour.End of the race.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 08:56:23 AM +0000 »

I solved chat problem with desable message in GPL_shift.ini, no total desable (maybe is not possible) but now the red written is very little and totally ininfluence on fps

For FPS problem in race I used the light version of Spa67 (or maybe server version I don't remember), and this is very good for old system like mine, now only a little fall at La Source and start/stop line when other cars are closer
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 09:22:55 AM +0000 »

I have a new system with GeForce GTX 960 but when there are a lot of cars seem that the FPS drop to lower value than 60.
I don't know if is only online,i must test a race with the AI.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 09:28:09 AM +0000 »

Tired and unconcentrated i went to wide in Blanchimont. Wheel lost.
So I hope for better luck with 55mod on tuesday, my last race until Christmas.

Flyin to a New Zealand Trip until 22th December on Saturday.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 09:39:53 AM +0000 »

My first race with a new mega PC and after that I might be booking a ticket to go with Bagrupp!!!

4.2Ghz, 16Gb Ram, Nvidia 1060 8Gb video card, SSD drive and 3 TB HDD ....and bl**dy Win 10!!!

I was loving the rock solid 60FPS even on the grid, where I was happy to start at the back so that I had all the cars in view to test the system...awesome  Grin

All the graphic content turned up to max and GPL never looked so good   Grin Grin Grin

Still had some issues with my G25 which was OK when I was applying steering input , but it would vibrate like a road drill in the straight ahead position..very tiring  Undecided Undecided

All was looking great until the game locked.....and Windows crashed to BSOD with a message    "DPC Watchdog Violation" !!!!  requiring a computer restart.

A little digging on the interweb this morning reveals that this is a well known bug in Win 10, usually associated with upgrades. But mine is a new machine with a virgin install of Win 10 and only a couple of days out of the box. From what I have read so far, no-one knows what causes these crashes for sure and Microsoft are hiding their heads up their a**!!

It might be because GPL runs a lot of activity through the CPU and windows recognises this as a fault situation?? But as a lot of you guys are also running Win 10 successfully I doubt that is the cause. As yet I have avoided adding any AV, the only connection to the internet is for Igor ATM ( this post is from my laptop ) as I wanted GPL running smoothly before I clogged things up with AV and updates.
Another possible cause is the G25 as it is the nly external device that I have added to the new rig. There were some issues in getting it to function and I wonder if there is a software conflict??
Has anyone here got any idea/sexperience on this??
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2017, 12:32:52 PM +0000 »

My first race with a new mega PC and after that I might be booking a ticket to go with Bagrupp!!!

4.2Ghz, 16Gb Ram, Nvidia 1060 8Gb video card, SSD drive and 3 TB HDD ....and bl**dy Win 10!!!

I was loving the rock solid 60FPS even on the grid, where I was happy to start at the back so that I had all the cars in view to test the system...awesome  Grin

All the graphic content turned up to max and GPL never looked so good   Grin Grin Grin

Still had some issues with my G25 which was OK when I was applying steering input , but it would vibrate like a road drill in the straight ahead position..very tiring  Undecided Undecided

All was looking great until the game locked.....and Windows crashed to BSOD with a message    "DPC Watchdog Violation" !!!!  requiring a computer restart.

A little digging on the interweb this morning reveals that this is a well known bug in Win 10, usually associated with upgrades. But mine is a new machine with a virgin install of Win 10 and only a couple of days out of the box. From what I have read so far, no-one knows what causes these crashes for sure and Microsoft are hiding their heads up their a**!!

It might be because GPL runs a lot of activity through the CPU and windows recognises this as a fault situation?? But as a lot of you guys are also running Win 10 successfully I doubt that is the cause. As yet I have avoided adding any AV, the only connection to the internet is for Igor ATM ( this post is from my laptop ) as I wanted GPL running smoothly before I clogged things up with AV and updates.
Another possible cause is the G25 as it is the nly external device that I have added to the new rig. There were some issues in getting it to function and I wonder if there is a software conflict??
Has anyone here got any idea/sexperience on this??

You're welcome...NZL might even have a better graphic than gpl on your new machine Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 01:00:12 PM +0000 »

My first race with a new mega PC and after that I might be booking a ticket to go with Bagrupp!!!

4.2Ghz, 16Gb Ram, Nvidia 1060 8Gb video card, SSD drive and 3 TB HDD ....and bl**dy Win 10!!!

I was loving the rock solid 60FPS even on the grid, where I was happy to start at the back so that I had all the cars in view to test the system...awesome  Grin

All the graphic content turned up to max and GPL never looked so good   Grin Grin Grin

Still had some issues with my G25 which was OK when I was applying steering input , but it would vibrate like a road drill in the straight ahead position..very tiring  Undecided Undecided

All was looking great until the game locked.....and Windows crashed to BSOD with a message    "DPC Watchdog Violation" !!!!  requiring a computer restart.

A little digging on the interweb this morning reveals that this is a well known bug in Win 10, usually associated with upgrades. But mine is a new machine with a virgin install of Win 10 and only a couple of days out of the box. From what I have read so far, no-one knows what causes these crashes for sure and Microsoft are hiding their heads up their a**!!

It might be because GPL runs a lot of activity through the CPU and windows recognises this as a fault situation?? But as a lot of you guys are also running Win 10 successfully I doubt that is the cause. As yet I have avoided adding any AV, the only connection to the internet is for Igor ATM ( this post is from my laptop ) as I wanted GPL running smoothly before I clogged things up with AV and updates.
Another possible cause is the G25 as it is the nly external device that I have added to the new rig. There were some issues in getting it to function and I wonder if there is a software conflict??
Has anyone here got any idea/sexperience on this??
Clive do you have Pro or Home Win10 version?
I have disabled Windows Update and Transferring in Background services, Windows Defender and Firewall just to keep things quiet, but there are other activities that start in background when they want. I think GPL isn't recognised as a running application by Win10 so it doesn't take it in account when it has some scheduled works to do during no busy time.
I noted that red messages give a little noise too, I'll try Alex solution.
Last night I had a Mobil Economy Run with my Cooper trying to focus to stay on track and it paid, I knew that with all those Fezza I had no chance on the straight, even Ronnie with his 6 cylinder gave me a race till he run wide, I thought that he had a 312 and I was asking myself why he was so cautious to not pass me on the straights, then I watched replay... Grin
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2017, 01:27:08 PM +0000 »

If I ever announce that I am considering Windows 10 will someone please shoot me!
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