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November 19, 2017, 09:37:23 PM +0000 - Zandvoort (1939-47) - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (BRM) F1 1966 2 +0.835
106.781mph
1 47:16.482
105.800mph
32 1:27.850
106.751mph
Firestone  
Alessandro Isacchini
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 1 1:26.991
107.806mph
2 +12.208
105.347mph
32 1:27.465
107.221mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 4 +1.213
106.323mph
3 +24.556
104.892mph
32 1:28.525
105.937mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 9 +2.002
105.380mph
4 +25.728
104.849mph
32 1:28.395
106.093mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 17 5 +41.706
104.267mph
32 1:28.319
106.185mph
Goodyear  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 8 +1.664
105.782mph
6 +58.679
103.656mph
32 1:28.547
105.911mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 10 +2.088
105.279mph
7 +1:18.985
102.934mph
32 1:29.210
105.124mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 11 +2.302
105.026mph
8 +1:19.463
102.917mph
32 1:28.908
105.481mph
Goodyear  
Gareth
 
Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 6 +1.333
106.179mph
9 +4L
103.008mph
28 1:28.892
105.500mph
Disco
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 7 +1.613
105.843mph
10 +11L
103.540mph
21 1:29.128
105.221mph
Disco
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 14 +3.334
103.826mph
11 +19L
102.375mph
13 1:29.674
104.580mph
Disco
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 15 +4.358
102.662mph
12 +48.388
98.377mph
13 1:31.641
102.335mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 3 +1.201
106.337mph
13 +25L
104.763mph
7 1:28.631
105.811mph
Disco
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 13 +2.722
104.535mph
14 +35.376
99.165mph
7 1:31.662
102.312mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 5 +1.312
106.204mph
15 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 12 +2.303
105.025mph
16 ---
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Goodyear  
4 UKGPL
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 16 17 ---
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Goodyear  

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Summary
A clean race with no reported incidents.

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Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:26.991
107.806mph
Alessandro Isacchini
Qualifying
Ferrari 246November 19, 2017, 09:37:23 PM +0000
S32His
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:27.465
107.221mph
Alessandro Isacchini
Race
Ferrari 246November 19, 2017, 09:37:23 PM +0000
S32His
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« on: November 19, 2017, 09:11:50 AM +0000 »

Season 32 Historic Trophy – Round 5 - Zandvoort

The fifth race in the Historic series takes us to Zandvoort in the Netherlands.  On 7 August 1948, the first race was held on the new permanent Zandvoort circuit. Soon more races followed on the course, with the first official Formula 1 Grand Prix becoming a milestone in 1952. Up until the mid-eighties, heroes like Alberto Ascari, Juan Manuel Fangio, Stirling Moss, Graham Hill, Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart, James Hunt, Nelson Piquet and Alain Prost braved the challenging course in the Dutch dunes and won at Zandvoort. After the Grand Prix of 1985, the Formula 1 left Zandvoort, but the seaside resort and its impressive race track were not forgotten. Many years after the last Grand Prix, the ‘racing drivers of the day’ still talk about their experience on the race track where the challenging corners ‘separated the men from the boys’.
 
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IP Address = 2.24.206.249
Race date = 19-11-2017
GPL mod = 66F1
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = Papyrus Original
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 32 laps
Damage Model = PRO
Replay = here

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Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the Historics will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice, 2 litre or 3 litre, for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement.  See below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex   
2
Pro
Arf Arf Arf
10
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
15
Am
DLogan   
8
Pro
Doni Yourth   
19
Pro
EvilClive
17
Pro
francesco   
13
Am
FullMetalGasket
17
Pro
MagicArsouille   
3
Pro
Phil Thornton
17
Am
Rainier
15
Am
bagrupp
6
Am
fpolicardi   
12
Am
Gareth   
26
Am
JonnyO   
20
Am
Robert Fleurke   
10
Pro
Ronniepeterson
35
Pro
Lalethor
3
Pro
Cookie
1
Pro
Syd Drake
20
Pro
Geoff65
20
Am
Kai J.Daum
20
Am
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2017, 08:54:30 PM +0000 »

I have problem with IGOR, is possible to have IP?
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2017, 10:00:47 PM +0000 »

Also this race nothing to do,this time gatherer(i don't know if is correct) broken.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 10:09:37 PM +0000 »

Great racing while it lasted Andreas  Cool

Good luck to yourself and everyone still running.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 10:36:07 PM +0000 »

a little mistake early on and I was dead last. came back to 5/6th and then disco'd with 4 to go. gotta love BT.
grats to Tim and Lale, very quick.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2017, 10:51:46 PM +0000 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
AnGex   
6
Pro
Arf Arf Arf
14
Pro
Billy Nobrakes   
15
Am
DLogan   
12
Pro
Doni Yourth   
24
Pro
EvilClive
19
Pro
francesco   
18
Am
FullMetalGasket
22
Pro
MagicArsouille   
3
Pro
Phil Thornton
11
Am
Rainier
13
Am
bagrupp
6
Am
fpolicardi   
10
Am
Gareth   
25
Am
JonnyO   
20
Am
Robert Fleurke   
10
Pro
Ronniepeterson
42
Pro
Lalethor
7
Pro
Cookie
6
Pro
Syd Drake
20
Pro
Geoff65
20
Am
Kai J.Daum
20
Am
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 08:44:44 AM +0000 »

That was an unexpectedly good race! (I say unexpected as I nearly stayed dozing on the sofa in front of the fire with the dog).
I wasn't sure how well I could qualify as I was gambling on a half decent finish using a low point cost car. The Lotus 25/33 isn't terrible with the BRM lump but it isn't as good as the BT11 - which I expected to see Clive driving.

As it turned out my qualifying place was good enough for 5th with out tow, but near the end of the session I got lucky and found myself behind Fulvio in his big Cooper.
I wasn't too happy with my lap behind him but it was enough to promote me to 2nd.

I bogged down slightly at the start of the race but managed to beat Axel's Eagle to Tartan.
Then it was a case of hanging on to Lalethor until my tires came up to temp.
Once warm I had no difficultly keeping up with his Ferrari, but I'm not convinced I could have made a pass and stayed ahead without help.
Which he kindly gave me on lap 10 with a trip into the dunes  Grin

That put me 9 seconds clear, but with 20odd laps to go. And I was pretty sure he could run faster than my Lotus when out of the draft. Sure enough I was right, every 2 or 3 laps my lead would drop by a second - I was frantically calculating if I could reach the end of the race before I was caught  and decided it was unlikely.
Then I got my 2nd break, Alessandro made another trip into the dunes and increased the gap to 12 seconds!

Great I thought, but no, I went and put a wheel into the sand with 2 to go and also span.
Prib showed 250yds to the 2nd place car and I was in trouble - but Alessandro chose that very corner to spin on again and I managed to get away to a safe victory.

Despite not seeing another car for 27 laps that was a very hard race, I couldn't stop concentrating throughout.

Well done to Alessandro and Fulvio for the podium and to all finishers for finishing. I'm also impressed by the pace of the field here. The only car I lapped was a struggling Phil, who crashed shortly after I lapped him - I hope I didn't help that off in anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 09:25:25 AM +0000 »

Grats to the podium and the finishers.

I was looking forward to this race on a track that I like and in a car that is always fun for me.

I had some issues earlier in the evening with GEM and Igor being a little unreliable and had tried to get to the bottom of those issues. During qually I was trying to get myself dialled into the car and circuit, but the G25 did not seem right.
Then GPL froze!??? Duh??? With all the computing power and stuff in my new rig I was not expecting that to happen. Had to switch off at the wall to crash the PC and a total reboot followed.
Got back into the server after much fiddling with GEM and set about getting a qually time. Then with about 10 mins before the start    another freeze??!!
Crashed the PC again and attempted to rejoin but.....
It transpired that Windows10 had decided that GEM Igor was a virus and had disabled all shortcuts and deleted the .exe files from the GPL Secrets file!!!
OK..I'll download and re-install Gem, there might be just time to do this. Not when Win 10 blocks and deletes the download and informs you that it considers the file to have a virus and will not allow it???

I checked the firewall and Igor was still there as an allowed exception but it took me about 10 minutes of digging through the security settings switching various options on/off before I was able to get the download to work. Worryingly the setting that appeared to be blocking the download had a note attached to it that informs me that
" this option can be disabled but will turn on again automatically for your protection in a short while" Huh??

I had to use CCleaner, and run it a couple of times, to remove all of the remaining GEM/Igor components before the new install would be accepted.

I obviously missed the race  Undecided Undecided It took me around 30 minutes to get back to a stable and fully operational Gem/Igor, but I am concerned that Win 10 might decide that this is malicious software in the future and simply disable it again???


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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 08:03:56 PM +0000 »

Which he kindly gave me on lap 10 with a trip into the dunes  Grin

Same mistake in the same turn  lol
Very difficult this track because needed to keep a perfect line, otherwise the various bumps send off and over the dune, this is the reason of the my choice of a 2 Liter car, more confortable than 3.0
Great race and win for you, that 10 laps you're always great in my mirrors!  Cheesy
hope new battle in the nex race!
compliment for finished and Fulvio always constant on the podium

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 09:26:20 PM +0000 »

The only car I lapped was a struggling Phil, who crashed shortly after I lapped him - I hope I didn't help that off in anyway.
My fault entirely Tim.  I saw you closing fast and decided to let you by on the outside. So I kept an unusual tight line through Jan de Wyker to allow you through.  Trouble is taking a line I haven't practised is risky and I put a wheel on the grass which meant I lost control. Unfortunately for me I clipped the wire fence that happens to be made of fly paper and I was well and truly stuck. Race over. Pity I was hoping to make half distance and grab some points.  Sad
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 09:36:06 PM +0000 »

Windows10
Sorry Clive I've no experience of Windows 10 but I do know each GPL exe created by GEM has to be specifically allowed through the firewall on Windows 7 so I guess Win 10 is no different.  Once it has been enabled I'd be surprised if Win 10 decided to overwrite your selection. If put my server up as a 55 practice server.  I suggest you  try and join and see if you have any firewall issues for the 55.exe.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2017, 10:27:08 PM +0000 »

A good race by my standards - finishing on the same lap as the winner counts as good.
I managed to stay in touch with a few of the Pro drivers throughout & an especially tight battle with Andreas.

Clive - hope you fix your PC Gremlins - it can be very frusrating. Have you got to the point of considering slinging the new W10 package out of the window & resurrecting the old computer??
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2017, 12:45:50 AM +0000 »

I got 4th on qualy after have gifted a nice tow to Tim on my last lap while I was running out of fuel on the straight  Grin
At the start I was distracted and didn't see the flagman, so the engine bogged down and 4 cars passed me before T1. Well, nice start, I thought...
Then I was behind Doni and easily passed him on the straight with the POWER  Grin
Soon after three cars had problems so I was again 4th, but Doni managed to stay close in the twisty and not too far away on the straight for all the rest of the race, no mistakes for both and a very demanding race for our concentration. Well done Doni!
At some point Axel's engine promoted us to 3rd and 4th.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 08:45:46 AM +0000 »

Great racing while it lasted Andreas  Cool

Good luck to yourself and everyone still running.

Yeah, was a good battle there with you and later with Billy. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2017, 10:06:54 AM +0000 »


Clive - hope you fix your PC Gremlins - it can be very frusrating. Have you got to the point of considering slinging the new W10 package out of the window & resurrecting the old computer??

The new rig has come perilously close to experiencing free fall from an upper storey window on several occassions........not a No10 window, I live at No 4  Wink
I have kept the old box...................just in case it all gets too stupid.

From my computer Numpty standpoint it does seem that Windows 10 is capable of making autonomous decisions regarding upgrades/security/ add-ons/ apps etc that are purely based on what Microsoft thinks you should be doing.
It feels like Mr Gates wants us all to use our PC's and his software/cloud/OS for his company's benefit. Old software is not welcome because that means you are not paying for new Apps.
I am discovering more and more processes within Win 10 that are "on" by default ( and even capable of turning themselves back on!!) that are certainly not essential for the running of the PC, but more data gathering operations feeding back to Microsoft.

@ Phil
Yes, I was aware that all the .exe's need to be allowed through the Firewall.
All I can tell you is that the GEM exe ( not the GPL exe's ) vanished along with the desktop icons when GPL froze and I rebooted. I checked the Recycle Bin but nothing there to retrieve.
Gem/Igor was inoperable with exe files missing, so I had the fun of finding and deleting all the remaining elements and battling with Win 10 to download a new install.

I will be trying the server sometime today. Offline at least Gem appears to be working correctly with all mods sorted with the various patches etc back in place.
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