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  • S3267GT Targa Florio: November 28, 2017
November 28, 2017, 09:44:47 PM +0000 - Targa Florio - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Sports Car Trophy (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
GregT
 Team Baarf
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 34:26.430
77.917mph
1 34:34.575
77.611mph
1 34:34.575
77.611mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Mirage M1 GT 1967 2 +2:32.160
72.573mph
2 +2:23.116
72.603mph
1 36:56.691
72.635mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 3 +4:50.280
68.320mph
3 +4:09.578
69.277mph
1 38:42.489
69.327mph
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 7 4 +4:11.567
69.218mph
1 38:42.638
69.322mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 4 +4:55.070
68.181mph
5 +5:39.584
66.694mph
1 40:12.337
66.745mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 5 +8:38.610
62.285mph
6 +6:40.351
65.057mph
1 41:11.543
65.146mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 8 7 +7:10.985
64.261mph
1 ---
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Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 7 +7:10.988
64.261mph
1 41:39.828
64.409mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 ---
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Dunlop  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 6 10 ---
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Firestone  
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2017, 03:04:40 PM +0000 »

Congrats Tim and Axel! And you too Sam! And congrats to all. This is a real test of patience.

I had expected this might be a spec race. I was surprised when Clive was the only other Porsche I saw. For 0 tokens, the Mk. 1 would have been more appealing. The Porsche is by far the best bargain, like the Mk.4 at LeMans. I had thought about taking the Mk. 1. But I thought Tim might beat me if he chose a Porsche. It appears my knowledge of the track is still much greater than his.

I only mentioned resets prerace because I think they're very important in learning this track. I'm impressed that Sam didn't need one. I don't think many have good knowledge of this track. I've probably done hundreds of resets. It's only recently that they've become rare for me.

I planned my season shortly after the schedule was posted. I've chosen what I thought would give me the most points over the entire season. I could have taken the Mk. 1 for this race but I decided I wanted to set a record that might last longer than myself.

I think my qualifying lap was clean. I can't remember hitting anything. That would be my 2nd clean lap. I did one in the Mk. 1 too. I'm getting close in all the cars now but I still seem to bump at least one or two guard rails or walls.

I was a little cautious. I was pleased to break 34:30. That seems to be a time I can reliably reproduce with the Porsche now.  I start having difficulties when I go for 34:10s. I'm still not sure how I did a 34:04. It would have been a clean lap too, except I turned in too soon once, and clipped an inside wall.

The race didn't go as well. I hit a concrete post once. I locked a front wheel two or three times. One of those resulted in a heavy hit on a guard rail but I did keep the car pointed in right direction throughout the race.

Sam, you probably don't need 1000 laps. 200 would probably get you and Tim close to my times, maybe even better. When I first started driving GPL, I did two laps every Sunday morning for 6 months. That would be 50 laps. At that point I was getting a general idea of what I needed to be doing. I'd still forget where I was 2 or 3 times a lap. Now I'd guess I have 200-300 laps here. I'm thinking I might know the track better than Vaccarella now, but I do still forget where I am on occasion. I mistook one turn for another turn during the race.

You're getting there Tim. I was stuck in the low 37s for a long time, the low 36s for a long time after that and about 35 flat in the 910 and 330 for a long time. Lots of practice and a great interest in the prototypes are what's got me to this point.

That sucks for Clive. He finally chose a car well suited to the track but couldn't race. I hope you can solve your problems.

That was an interesting choice of cars Axel. I thought you might take the easy way out like me and choose the Porsche. I also would have thought you might choose the Mk. 1 or Mirage. But I understand. I was tempted by the 330 and Lola. I intend to start working on the 2F at Targa. I'm curious what might be the 2nd fastest car for me, the T70 or the 2F?

Here's a few hints. The red and white warning signs usually represent something to me. I use them as a marker to begin turning, lift off the throttle, brake, or downshift. I think there only 2 or 3 I pass at full throttle. You can do donuts on the asphalt to the right of the pits to get some heat in your tires. 5 or 6 donuts and then locking your wheels before leaving pit road seem to be good for 10 seconds on an opening lap. For a while I had my first pit stall at Campofelice. That made it easy to set the highest gear for all the cars. It also helped to learn sector 4 well too. I should do that again. That will allow me to start a lap with warm tires.

The cars. The 910 and Mk.1 are easiest. Initially, I tried to learn Nurburgring in the 67 312 and Targa in the 330. I spared myself a lot of grief by later using the Porsche to learn those tracks. The big block Fords are easy in a certain way. They don't require many gearshifts. The key for me seems to be remaining patient and holding the rpms just below the red line near the end of most short straights. The 2F, I need more practice. The 2D, a nightmare, I can't get it to turn well. I spin a lot or clip something from running a little wide. The Lola and 330 are fun but difficult. Their good acceleration means they'll easily get you into trouble. The Mirage is similar but less extreme.

I hope someday I can get Helmut Marko's 3 liter Alfa on this track. The Porsche 908/03 would be a lot of fun too. The 512S and 917 would be interesting, in a "oh my god! I'm gonna die!" kind of way. Smiley A 70 or 71GT mod would cover just about all the cars I'd like to see in GPL.

My apologies for the long post.

Thanks guys. I appreciate you letting me race with you.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2017, 05:40:51 PM +0000 »

Grats to the podium and all those who completed the course, wish I could have been one of you.


Gutted for you Clive, I have to admit it's disheartening me a bit reading all your woes - I've been considering an Oculus for a while now but would need either Win8.1 or 10 to get the most out of it.
While 8.1 is an improvement over 8 I think it would still be like putting my head in a blender when ever I need to change a setting...
I dislike Win10 as it seems primarily to be a data gathering tool for Microsoft, but for a gaming PC should otherwise prove suitable - except you seem to be having major issues with GPL  Sad
I'll have to install GPL on my laptop (It's a cheapy Win10 jobbie I bought for my travels last year) and join the practice servers (If the laptop can cope!) and see if I can get my head around it I think.

Well done to Greg on a commanding win - I realy have to try the Porsche here, I never have so far. But after Watching Greg just dance away from me in the corners maybe I should  Grin

I was especially amused to note that Dean had taken a Mk2 GT40. You must have arms like tree trunks after that  Grin

My own race went fairly well, I knocked 2 seconds off my qualifying pace which allowed me to beat my old PB in the 2D by a massive 0.2 seconds  Shocked
As I've only done about 2 laps in the last 3 years I'd tend to agree with Greg that the M1 is capable of some pretty good times if you have 'the knowledge'.

WD Axel on rounding out the podium and to everyone for persevering to the end - see you all at Spa
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2017, 08:52:24 PM +0000 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
Cookie
2
Pro
DLogan
18
Pro
Doni Yourth
25
Pro
EvilClive
10
Pro
FullMetalGasket
14
Pro
MagicArsouille
2
Pro
Phil Thornton
24
Am
Rainier
19
Am
Samb
19
Pro
bagrupp
22
Am
Gareth
10
Am
Geoff65
15
Am
maddog
10
Am
Greg Taber
18
Pro
Carlos Cendejas
10
Pro
kinghiro
12
Pro
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