UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix - Aintree - Dec 5

[FullMetalGasket]

There are a few corners at Aintree where I try and avoid using any brakes ( or just a single quick dab to be sure ), relying on a downshift and a sideways flick to lose enough speed to get through the corner.

Same here, although this is another reason for my heavier than normal rear bias as I properly back the car in like a rally car. From the replay I can see you look unusually tame in comparison

I did notice that my 250F was much quicker through the hedges and the Esses at the end of the straight than Tim's Fezza, perhaps the Maserati is just more balanced?? I was dropping to 4th just after the first white marker board before the hedge and keeping some power on to force some oversteer until I was straightened up for the Esses. A quick downshift to 3rd ( no brakes)  and a squirt through the right/left before a drop to 2nd and a good stomp on the barkes to hook up the inside line around the final corner.

That was a different approach to the corner I think, and also to brake management. You generate heat more quickly at higher speeds as the energy you're shedding is proportionately higher, so I coast from one of the hedges before the brake markers until I can select 4th for engine braking and then maybe tap the brakes before giving some power to make the turn.
This also gives me a better line into the 2nd chicane and gives a good drift angle when I have to come off the power again - all that energy has been shed through the tires and gearbox so much less is generated during braking. Something that's critical in the Ferrari's and other mid/low ranking cars.
I also noticed that I was taking the 2nd chicane faster and it allowed me to more than make up any advantage you pulled on me in the 1st chicane and kept me on the track for the most part

[Clive Loynes]

That was a different approach to the corner I think, and also to brake management. You generate heat more quickly at higher speeds as the energy you're shedding is proportionately higher, so I coast from one of the hedges before the brake markers until I can select 4th for engine braking and then maybe tap the brakes before giving some power to make the turn.

I'm on board with the theory but just not brave enough in all places to go for it!  The Melling Crossing being one of them!  OK. I'm a wimp!

[Phil Thornton]

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver	Tokens	Status
Robert Fleurke	5	Pro
EvilClive	14	Pro
Ronniepeterson	29	Pro
DLogan	20	Pro
FullMetalGasket	17	Pro
Doni Yourth	30	Pro
Clive Loynes	15	Pro
Samb	25	Pro
MagicArsouille	10	Pro
Turkey Machine	3	Pro
GregT	33	Pro
Carlos Cendejas	5	Pro
Cookie	11	Pro
Billy Nobrakes	16	Am
maddog	15	Am
bagrupp	12	Am
Geoff65	10	Am
Jeep	10	Am
Gareth	15	Am
Rainier	19	Am
Phil Thornton	7	Am
dave curtis	10	Am
francesco	10	Am
ReiverEcosse	20	Am
Syd Drake	10	Am
Will Tway	23	Am
miner2049er	15	Am

[EvilClive]

I can't ever recall a disco on the last lap. So sorry Evil. The ultimate evil of gpl or the worst of two evils. lol

Glad to be back after a short recess. Super fun circuit which requires massive concentration. Smooth race in Connaught. I had no chance against Sam so I just cruised along happy to take 4th...

Hope to be back in Italy in a few weeks with plenty of tokens in my pocket.....

Cheers,

Will

Great to see you back Will. Looking forward to locking wheels with you on track if Mr Gates and Win 10 allows 

[Clive Loynes]

My money is on Bill Gates!   

[EvilClive]

  He does appear to be holding all the aces at the moment 

[Clive Loynes]

He does appear to be holding all the aces at the moment 

However, I must thank you so much for ably demonstrating that I just do not have the time to contemplate Windows10 at the moment.  No matter how much I might like the idea of a new PC, it just isn't possible!

[Will Tway]

Evil, Excited to be back. As for Mr. Gates, I ditched 10 and reverted back to 7 which has made a world of difference. I'm sure you know this though. lol

Good luck!!!!

Will

[Ronniepeterson]

I had a good run with a terrific duel with Fran.  I chased him closely for 15 laps or so til he slid wide in T1 and spun.  He recovered quickly to give me concerns over the last couple of laps.  And poor Ray...  A gift and clearly just not your day.

I was stunned to see yourself and Fran I think closing I really thought the race was over  and panicked when I saw we had one lap to go. But good fun. This circuit is a corner cutting festival and I'm not sure it should be used in its current form.

[Doni Yourth]

And, Ray, that's exactly why I posted the 'On Track' laps charts from our two recent races.  I think that it's appalling to not achieve at least 90% of laps without going off the road even here at Aintree.  Sure, we all make mistakes and sometimes get shunted off but the number of runners that I see cutting corners...especially at Melling...is really disappointing.  And I'm being kind in saying that.

[EvilClive]

Although I do understand your point of view Doni and applaud your driving standard, the rules only say that 2 wheels should stay on the tarmac at all times.
So, clipping an apex and risking putting two wheels on the grass is "legal".
IMHO Occasional misjudgements are acceptable, as is running wide on the exit and ploughing furrows across the grass.

However, deliberate and consistent corner cutting ( 4 wheels OFF the track ) is not legal and could be penalised by the moderators under our current guidelines.

As an aside here, it might be considered a shame that GPL does not have the same inbuilt monitoring that GTL does, where it monitors corner cutting and 3 transgressions in a race will get you an automatic SnG. Failure to comply results in an automatic DQ.

[Cookie]

I agree with Clive to be in the limits as long as 2 wheels are on the tarmac!

There are some tracks where the groove line definitely is at some points just within this limit!

I often wondered that when I was thinking to have made a clean lap the report said "off track" an vice versa...
To me it seems very unpredictable how the track limits are seen by GPL. Maybe we have to ask some track maker like Ginetto.  

PS
GPL tracks have build in checkpoints! You get black flags when you go over the limit there!
I still remember my first online league race at Silverstone when I got a DQ for such a violation...

[Phil Thornton]

GPL tracks have build in checkpoints! You get black flags when you go over the limit there!
I still remember my first online league race at Silverstone when I got a DQ for such a violation...

We've tended to run league races with checkpoints disabled (it is an option in IGOR) because internet lag can generate false black flags. We could try a race with checkpoints enabled given that modern connections are much better now???

[Clive Loynes]

GPL tracks have build in checkpoints! You get black flags when you go over the limit there!
I still remember my first online league race at Silverstone when I got a DQ for such a violation...

We've tended to run league races with checkpoints disabled (it is an option in IGOR) because internet lag can generate false black flags. We could try a race with checkpoints enabled given that modern connections are much better now???

Perhaps something to try out of season?

[EvilClive]

Christmas fun race perhaps??