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September 12, 2018, 08:41:41 PM +0100 - Schottenring - UKGTL Season 18 1950s Endurance Racing
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
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Aston Martin DBR1 (#24) GTC-65 3 +4.499
103.414mph
1 59:52.259
101.017mph
10 5:49.478
103.834mph
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104.757mph
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100.945mph
10 5:49.351
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104.057mph
3 +14.856
100.601mph
10 5:49.029
103.968mph
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101.517mph
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95.650mph
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« on: December 16, 2017, 01:19:47 PM +0000 »

Championship Standings here

Grid/server capacity: 22

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (10 laps)

Track: Schottenring 1967 Download this

Cars allowed

AC Ace Download this
Aston Martin DBR1 Download this
Aston Martin DBR2 (includes GTC-65 class fix) Download this
Austin Healey 100 Download this
Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this
Ferrari 375+ Download this
Jaguar D-Type (1955) Download this
Jaguar D-Type (1957) Download this
Maserati 450S (4.5) Download this
Maserati 450S (5.7) Download this
Mercedes 300SL (LM55) Download this
Mercedes 300SL (Gullwing) Download this
Mercedes 300SLR Download this

Car restrictions: The most popular model used at this event will be dropped from the list of cars available for future races. If two or more models tie for most popular, then the highest finishing model will be dropped. The final race of the series will be "free choice" and all car models will be available.

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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2018, 11:08:47 PM +0100 »

Link to Mercedes 300SL (Gullwing) does not work.

Do I understand correctly - do I need to download a car that is not crossed out?
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2018, 10:58:36 AM +0100 »

Link to Mercedes 300SL (Gullwing) does not work.

Do I understand correctly - do I need to download a car that is not crossed out?

Gullwing link now fixed.

You do not need to download any crossed out car. But you will need them all for the final race of the series at Le Mans. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14703.msg268057#msg268057
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2018, 02:33:23 PM +0100 »

Gullwing link now fixed.

Thank you.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2018, 06:26:54 PM +0100 »

np, your most welcome
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2018, 09:34:03 AM +0100 »

Just looked at what is in store for tomorrow......the choice of cars is certainly dwindling!! 

I know we will get a free choice from the full list in the last race at Le Mans ( a grid of Maserati's perhaps??), but the next 3 races could be great fun as we are all using the less fancied cars. I might need to try a couple of the remaining options.


A question for those who know more about GTL cars than I do. I have noticed that in the car selection section that we get a nice picture of the cars and a brief list of statistics. But in previous races I have noticed that some cars appear to be able to attain a much higher top speed that the figure given within GTL? At least, when I thought I had a theoretically faster car I could not pass cars that should have been slower...…..or was it my imagination and poor driving??? lol
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2018, 09:47:26 AM +0100 »

A question for those who know more about GTL cars than I do. I have noticed that in the car selection section that we get a nice picture of the cars and a brief list of statistics. But in previous races I have noticed that some cars appear to be able to attain a much higher top speed that the figure given within GTL? At least, when I thought I had a theoretically faster car I could not pass cars that should have been slower...…..or was it my imagination and poor driving??? lol

Top speed listed in car selection screen is the top speed the car can theoretically reach with the default setup. Theoretically that is because it is simply calculated by redline rpm, gearing and tyre size. It does not take account coeffient drag nor the resistive forces defined in physics files.

I as modder for example tune the default setup for the AI. It is used if there's no .svm file (AI setup file) for the selected track in car folder. And for so I have selected the most average track of the original tracks and usually make sure that AI can push the car as good as possible there. In faster tracks AI will be slower due lower top speed and in slower tracks it is bit slower due slower acceleration, but mostly it gives you pretty good match without need of making whole bunch of svm files for each possible track available for GTL. (And including add on tracks, that would mean A LOT of them.)

So, what track I am using as calibration point? What is the track where mods with my physics driven by AI gives the best possible opposition? Smiley Zolder is the correct answer here. Of course each modder has his own way to define default setup so there's no exact rules for this, but I have tried to be coherent on all the cars I have made physics.

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2018, 11:06:27 AM +0100 »

Far out of pace - as usual - I fear, but the AC seems to be funny.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2018, 01:23:28 PM +0100 »

Thanks for that explanation Nappe1  Grin  That does explain why there is sometimes a speed difference  Wink

I did a couple of laps on the server, just to check that I had the correct track loaded and to remember what a beast of a track this is  Undecided The AC was the first car on the "available" list so dragged it off the transporter and fired it up.
Changed the steering ratio to max ( 34.5 ?  ) and added a click of toe in just to be sure that the front end would work...not bothered about outright speed, just wanted a car/chassis that I could get around a whole lap. 1st attempt and I failed to even get it out of the pits and on to the circuit lol!!! too much right foot and too little ability to control the wheelspin!!
2nd attempt was more civilised and we managed 2 laps (with minor excursions), so that I could set a laptime to see how it compared. Just about got sub 6:00mins but the tyres were still cold after 2 laps, so maybe not pushing hard enough. I noticed that Erling has a 5:45 lap in the DBR2 from a previous series which shows that with the AC, I am currently some way off the probable pace.
 Even with cold tyres the handling seemed very solid and I think with a little more confidence and maybe a tweak to the final drive ratio there might be a few seconds to be gained...but I don't think there are 15 seconds lurking anywhere for the AC.


I have a GPL race this evening, so probably won't get any more track time before joining the server tomorrow evening. The trouble with such a long lap is that testing car options here takes around 20 mins per car ( 1 out lap, 1 safe lap and one pushing harder lap ). I thought that when I retired I would be able to indulge myself in comprehensive practice sessions...……………………...it transpires that others had different plans for my time  Roll Eyes Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2018, 01:27:21 PM +0100 »

Far out of pace - as usual - I fear, but the AC seems to be funny.
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Still haven't decided which car to kill  Huh
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2018, 07:03:28 PM +0100 »

.......so that I could set a laptime to see how it compared. Just about got sub 6:00mins but the tyres were still cold after 2 laps, so maybe not pushing hard enough. I noticed that Erling has a 5:45 lap in the DBR2 from a previous series which shows that with the AC, I am currently some way off the probable pace.
 Even with cold tyres the handling seemed very solid and I think with a little more confidence and maybe a tweak to the final drive ratio there might be a few seconds to be gained...but I don't think there are 15 seconds lurking anywhere for the AC.

Well, my AC time is just under 6:11, so you must be doing something right, or I'm doing something very wrong....or maybe a combo..  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2018, 01:42:05 PM +0100 »

If you could promise to take the AC Erling, it would even things out when I screw up the pitstop   Undecided Undecided Undecided
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2018, 08:06:28 PM +0100 »

Unable to rejoin the server. Huh  Which cars do Matt and Ziu drive?
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2018, 09:30:50 PM +0100 »

Unable to rejoin the server. Huh  Which cars do Matt and Ziu drive?

Merc 300Sl I think
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2018, 09:32:43 PM +0100 »

Rubbish driving tonight caused too many avoidable errors and incidents, quit in disgust with myself.
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