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January 14, 2018, 09:36:14 PM +0000 - Snetterton - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) Graduates Cup Privateers (67)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 1 1:25.171
112.912mph
1 50:17.680
111.539mph
35 1:24.925
113.239mph
Firestone  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 2 +0.290
112.529mph
2 +17.513
110.896mph
35 1:25.270
112.781mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +0.929
111.694mph
3 +24.798
110.630mph
35 1:25.150
112.940mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +1.928
110.413mph
4 +1:23.642
108.531mph
35 1:27.212
110.270mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 5 +1.729
110.666mph
5 +1L
107.066mph
34 1:27.229
110.248mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +2.311
109.929mph
6 +15.924
106.511mph
34 1:27.350
110.096mph
Goodyear  
Pepe Higdon
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 8 +3.224
108.794mph
7 +2L
104.341mph
33 1:28.534
108.623mph
Firestone  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +3.809
108.079mph
8 +9L
106.399mph
26 1:28.690
108.432mph
Disco
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 9 +3.683
108.232mph
9 +15L
101.584mph
20 1:29.513
107.435mph
Header
Firestone  
Gareth
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 3 +0.581
112.147mph
10 +33L
106.251mph
2 1:27.605
109.775mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Pepe Higdon
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 DNS ---
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Firestone  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 ---
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Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 13 ---
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Goodyear  

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A dominant win for Axel Cookie as well as taking pole and fastest lap. John Hammonds landed the runner up spot while Bastian Grupp raced to the final step of the podium.

After a few races without any reported incidents, two have been reported this round. Details are reported below.


Server replay time: 0h00m50s

On the first lap, Dave Rainier brakes early for first turn, surprised by Dave Curtis' pass on the inside. Billy Nobrakes caught out by the early braking on Dave's behalf, spears into the back of Dave, despite his best efforts to avoid the collision. Pepe Higdon collects the two in sympathy.

This would typically be a rear end shunt on Bill's behalf, but Dave did brake especially early, even considering this was the first lap. On several laps I did note Bill typically had a higher corner entry speed into the first turn compared to Dave, and this was exasperated by the circumstances on the first lap.

I was in two minds about penalising Bill on this given the circumstances, but Dave has requested no penalty to be given on this incident. Hence, no penalty will be applied.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h08m25s

Onto the approach of the first turn, Dave Ranier is attempting to pass Fran Molteni. Dave achieves partial overlap on the approach to the turn, but Fran takes his normal racing line into the turn, squeezing Dave on the apex and the two collide.

This is a tricky one. Dave was just short of the 50% overlap for a pass when Fran began to squeeze him. Fran typically took a tight line into turn one which contributed towards the contact. Had Fran maintained a wider line however, Dave would have had over 50% when the two began braking for the first turn. The first turn is tricky one to pass due to it's fast nature, but Dave's attempt wasn't unreasonable.

I am leaning on calling this one a racing incident. If Fran had shown more awareness to Dave attempting the pass, by running a wider line the two could have avoided colliding. However, Dave could have exercised more caution to passing Fran. It was going to need cooperation of Fran's part to make the pass work.

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« on: January 10, 2018, 04:42:51 PM +0000 »

Season 32 Privateers Trophy ‚Äď Round 7 - Snetterton

Back home to Blighty (at least for some of us), we visit the flat ground of Norfolk. Our racetrack is Snetterton. Snetterton is a 1967 Formula Two rank track built, like Silverstone, on a former airfield with long flat straights & relatively quick corners including the brilliantly named ‚ÄúBomb Hole‚ÄĚ.

Note the Privateers division is run on Intermediate damage settings. Drivers are permitted 1 Shift R followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane within 2 laps. Failure to make a stop will result in a 30 second time penalty. If you require a stop & go on the final lap & are unable to complete a time penalty of 15 secs is added.

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Server = UKGPL_4
IP Address = 95.147.188.89
Race date = 14-01-2018
Variant = 67F1
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = http://www.grandprixlegends.co.nf/GPLEA/tracks/gpleatracks/snetterton67/snetterton67.htm
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 35 laps
Damage Model = Intermediate
Replay = here

Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 09:58:32 PM +0000 »

Grats to Cookie and John good times in qually. grats to finishers.

internet connection dropped off, again. its going to have to change, any recommendations?
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 10:19:53 PM +0000 »

My Momo steering wheel is arrived to the  end of life.Strange behavior often,i have done a reset with S&G but after this there was the problem with the engine with one part of which i don't know the traslation in English.Stop of the race.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 10:35:06 PM +0000 »

My error was to imagine that the setup with the most fuel must have been the one I used previously, sadly this proved otherwise and fuel ran out at pro distance.  I wondered why I had been able to race with the tail, still it was enjoyable while it lasted.

I suppose this could be called a rookie mistake if it weren't for setups from a dozen years ago, so perhaps it is a faded never-was mistake.  I was a promising newcomer once, the mod's race report said so it must have been true!

Is it under consideration to have a rookie 65s again, in an attempt to to improve grid numbers?  It might be optimistic for an almost twenty year old game, however the installation wizards have made it as easy as it could be hoped to install and the graphics still hold up.       
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2018, 10:57:57 PM +0000 »

1st off, sincere apolgies to Pepe for the last lap incident. I completely cocked up Riches and after extracting myself from the haybales could see Bastian closing fast on Pribluda but completely failed to see you (I'll plead colour blindness as your name merged into the background on the display). When you suddenly appeared beside me it scared me half to death. Sorry all my fault.

Somehow qualified in 2nd despite not managing a clean lap (Due to my own ineptitude not traffic).

Got a clean start and set about making my presence known to Axel at every opportunity. He was murdering me from the start of the Norwich Straight until the Esses but I was able to get back on his tail by Sear corner only to lose it all and have to start all over again. Eventually as we began to come across the tail of the field I was able to take my chance when a car hit the bridge at the Esses and Axel took avoiding action and I slipped through.

Then we had a great battle right up until the start of the last lap, occasionally I managed to pull out about 100yds only to make a small mistake or Axel put in a really fast lap and he was back on my tail. Finally with a few laps to go I completely screwed up the Hairpin and went from 1st to 3rd instead of 2nd on the exit and Axel was through. Gave chase but it was going to need a mistake from Axel to allow me to retake the lead. Instead it was me who messed up starting the last lap when I missed my braking point into Riches so ended up a long way behind by the flag.

Again Sorry Pepe I can't apologise enough, just a rush of blood and not paying attention on my part.

Congrats to all finishers. and commiserations to those who had issues. (Mechanical or internet related).

TTFN
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 05:52:37 AM +0000 »

No apologies necessary at all, John. I was simply grinding my way to the end in my customary position of "Dead Last But Finished." When I saw the yellow flag and then you off to the left, I slowed as much as I could. We didn't even touch.

I like these abandoned airfield tracks. I should have done better here but preparations for an upcoming motorcycle trip from the top to the bottom of South America had made my customary diligent practice schedule a little dented. Still, I cranked out four PBs in one training session earlier this morning and was feeling better about my chances. Then just minutes before qualifying ended I changed the gearing ratio of 4th two clicks in the wrong direction. That necessitated my having to shift up to 5th unnecessarily, darkening my mood considerably. Still, I had a number of hard laps nose-to-tail with Jack and that for me was the best part of the race.

If all goes as planned, I'll be joining the next race in Kyalami from my room in the Hotel Caribe in Cartagena, Colombia. No wheel and pedals for me on this trip. I'll be using a Sim Raceway SRW-S1 "wheel," a device guaranteed not to frighten my competition in the back of the pack.   Cool
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 07:21:52 AM +0000 »

Another race binned on the first lap. This one looks my fault by running into the back of David approaching T1. On looking at the replay he seemed to slow much sooner than I was expecting but no excuse for hitting a team mate. Most of us scrapping at the back got caught out at the hairpin & I managed to get ahead. A couple of laps before the end I span off unnecessarily & giving up 5th spot to David.
Cookie, John & Bastian were getting great lap times at the front. I couldn't work out how to get below 1.27 even in the  Brabham.
Best of luck with the road trip Pepe, sounds awesome.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 09:11:20 AM +0000 »

This one looks my fault by running into the back of David approaching T1. On looking at the replay he seemed to slow much sooner than I was expecting but no excuse for hitting a team mate.

It was just a full Black Night Racing team story ...
Yes, at the start  I slowed down much sooner than I wanted because I was surprised by the "aggressive" start from Dave Curtis and I tried to avoid an accident . 
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 12:34:37 PM +0000 »

After this incident at the start, I had big troubles to overtake Francesco.
I tried several times to overtake him at the first braking point after the starting line and also at the end  of the long straight.

But every times, Fran was going several times from right to left and from left to right (I suppose to limit the slipstream). I can't remember if it is allowed to do this several consecutive times or only one ?
And every times when we approached a turn, he directly turned on the apex, only leaving me the grass to avoid the collision.
After several laps, I considered I was in a perfect position to overtake him but Francesco didn't see me or didn't want to see me and we collided without big damages, I think.  

I would suggest to Fran to drive with the view F10 if he can't correctly see in the rear windows.

I didn't want to report the incident, it will change nothing but Fran created one.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 03:37:31 AM +0000 »

Sorry to miss a great race at Snett. I can't wait to do another privateers race. I was at a kid's birthday party.

Congrats to Cookie, John and Bastian. See you at the next one hopefully.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 01:59:20 PM +0000 »

Replay = here


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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2018, 08:39:10 AM +0000 »

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I didn't want to report the incident, it will change nothing but Fran created one.
That will be work for moderation.
Is not true that i'm gping left to right.I have always tried to mantain my usual line ,Momo racing allowing.I have had big problem with my racing wheel in this race.Anyway don't seem to me the best place to do an overtake,this curve(for me) must be taken all on the right to avoid the green.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2018, 09:19:48 AM +0000 »

Yes I agree it is not an easy place to overtake.
But there are not many places to overtake at Snetterton when you drive a slow car (Cooper) even when you are 2 seconds a lap quicker.

And when you see another car almost side to side with your car, you have two possibilities :

1 - turn on the apex as usually...and there will be a collision with the other car if the other driver cannot go elsewhere (that was the case)

2 - slow down and carefully turn, leaving enough place. 


By the way, I need to see the replay but I can't due to lack of pwd.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2018, 09:28:20 AM +0000 »

 rpy here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/fw2z0v
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2018, 04:13:54 PM +0000 »

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And when you see another car almost side to side with your car, you have two possibilities :

1 - turn on the apex as usually...and there will be a collision with the other car if the other driver cannot go elsewhere (that was the case)

2 - slow down and carefully turn, leaving enough place.

Last season,in a race at Mosport,i was penalized for an overtake done.The comtact was between the 2 front tires
In another race at Zamdvort i have done 34 laps behind another car without the possibility to do a safe overtake.
Can i blame the other pilot?In my opinion no,he have done his race defending his position.
If the rule becames;when you have a car behind slow down we can,or i can,stop to race.
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