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February 20, 2018, 09:36:16 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 5 +2.253
100.777mph
1 47:29.648
99.857mph
27 1:43.365
101.961mph
Continental  
MagicArsouille
 
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 4 +1.423
101.583mph
2 +4.767
99.690mph
27 1:43.636
101.694mph
Continental  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 2 +1.160
101.842mph
3 +8.019
99.577mph
27 1:44.203
101.141mph
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Maserati 250F F1 1955 3 +1.221
101.782mph
4 +24.333
99.012mph
27 1:44.064
101.276mph
Pirelli  
uli
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 1 1:42.326
102.996mph
5 +38.343
98.531mph
27 1:43.981
101.357mph
Pirelli  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 6 +2.279
100.752mph
6 +1:25.886
96.936mph
27 1:45.719
99.690mph
Continental  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 10 +4.236
98.902mph
7 (+3) +1L
95.053mph
26 1:45.072
100.304mph
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 8 +3.338
99.742mph
8 +7.402
94.810mph
26 1:46.420
99.034mph
Pirelli  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 12 +6.100
97.202mph
9 +22.594
94.314mph
26 1:48.119
97.478mph
Continental  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 9 +3.793
99.315mph
10 +38.419
93.803mph
26 1:48.049
97.541mph
Pirelli  
DLogan
 
Maserati 250F F1 1955 13 +6.642
96.718mph
11 +24L
90.279mph
3 1:51.330
94.666mph
Disco
Pirelli  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 14 +7.049
96.358mph
12 +1.280
89.950mph
3 1:51.247
94.737mph
DQ
Englebert  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 7 +2.341
100.692mph
13 +26L
94.372mph
1 1:50.892
95.040mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Carlos Cendejas
 
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 11 +5.557
97.691mph
14 (+1) +27L
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Disco
Englebert  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Gordini T16 F1 1955 15 15 DNS ---
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Englebert  

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Phil is having problems with his brakes/suspension which causes his car to pull left under heavy braking. He has just passed Doni on the run towards Stowe and his car swerves across in front of Doni to take to the grass. ( this move will be repeated much later in the race ).
Doni passes by unscathed and Phil rejoins the track.
Unfortunately Phil take his car straight onto the racing line through Stowe which is exactly where Bastian is intending to sweep past and a collision occurs. Phil should have known better but I suspect that he was under the red mist of competition.
Blatant bad rejoin 2 places lost


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In what was an almost carbon copy of his previous passing attempt on Doni, Phil again slipstreams Doni and pulls out to make a pass before Stowe. However this time he does not quite clear Doni's Merc and the braking issue which he has carried all race causes his car to pull left and clip the front of Doni's car taking them both into the barriers.
Phil has confessed that he was aware of the braking issue and Doni did nothing wrong, maintaining his line and pace.
Although this incident was as a result of mechanical issues with Phil's car, they were problems that he had been driving with and he perhaps could have given more room or been prepared for the pull to the left. Either way, the responsibility was for Phil to make a safe pass.


Clive Loynes started from the pit lane and as a consequence the server did not register his first lap. The results will need to be adjusted to move Clive forward by one lap


Server replay time: 0h01m12s

Lap 1 and Phil has got his car alongside Carlos on the exit of Copse with more than 50% overlap and is ideally placed to sweep past on the next left hand bend. It looks as if Carlos is unaware that there is a car to his right and swings across to take the racing line. Phil is as close to his side of the track that he can be and the resultant contact flips both cars.
In mitigation it was Lap 1 and it is quite likely that Carlos lost track of Phil's car in his mirrors, but it was still his move that caused the incident.
Caution to Carlos. Check that there is no-one alongside you before moving across the track.

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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2018, 12:21:19 PM +0000 »

Grats on the race victory, Sam!

Terrific job by Tim to emerge...by all of two points over Sam...as our inaugural 1955 mod Champ.  You're right up there with Fangio now.  Smiley

Dean...  Poo happens.  The '55's ARE difficult to judge.

Phil...  Strange off for you on Lap09 as you tried to out-brake me into Stowe.  Like your Lancia just veered off to the left.  Seems a near carbon-copy of this on Lap23 but this time collecting my Merc.  Not altogether apparent from the cockpit or chase view but my TV1 cam indicates pretty clearly that the red car moves over on me.  Three cars...including poor Clive...on their lids.  My only real regret is that the time lost including a S&G for a reset, cost me P5 to Bastian in the championship tables.

There were nine reset Shift-R's in this event including one pour moi.  The 'offs' by just about everyone are too numerous to count.  I endeavoured to keep it on the road as much as possible with consistency the goal and managed no less than 10 consecutive laps in the 1m48s bracket.  There needs to be a quantum shift in how people approach these 1955 mod races.  I think people need to rein in their enthusiasm and hopefully, next season, these 1955 mod events will be with PRO DAMAGE where you'll pay the price for over-driving.  That's as it should be, imo.  To that end, I refer you to this thread over at the ADC that I put up a couple of months back.  It was inspired by some events that looked like they belonged in the script of Death Race 2000...

http://forums.speedgeezers.net/index.php?showtopic=39796

Ah, yes, and before I forget.  Tris...  Your manners in qualifying here were appalling.  Interfering with another member's efforts on a hot lap is subject to penalty.  Wise up!  Being a Frenchman is no excuse!  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2018, 01:22:11 PM +0000 »

It was a horror race all in all.

I had some minor contacts in the first lap but came around quite well.
But i was in red zone with the brakes and the engine all the time.

the first incident was hitting the spinning tim and my steering was much to the left so i had to s/r.
I didn't realize i could not get to an fast stop with my car off the line (red brakes)so i stood there around in the apex of stowe and need to let pass everyone for my first s/r...

The second s/r due to an engine failure

Several offs in club due to red brakes including avoid uli after his s/r.

Last but not least the Phil incident, who rejoined off the race line but i couldn't stick to the race line so much because brakes were red and i overbreaked instinctively when seeing Phil which made it of course worse with the 55er cars.

Oh mann...Sad
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2018, 01:36:15 PM +0000 »

Well if this wasn't racing then I don't know what it was:-




Phil and Fran were giving each other so much room that I was able to drive down the middle and pass them both!  
Phil and I were side by side in Stowe but I managed Club on my own, sort of!  
I wouldn't say that it was settled until I had seen off Phil's attempt at the outside of Woodcote, which he followed up, I think, with a tank slapper into Copse!

Great racing Phil.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2018, 07:13:42 PM +0000 »

Great snapshot Clive  Smiley.

And hearty congrats to our inaugural '55 champ Tim! Well deserved mate, as you were the man to beat at most circuits.

I was fortunate to see arch rival Tim & Clive go off at Stowe corner early on. While it was a shame not to battle on track, I was too preoccupied trying to catch Uli for the lead. We had a great battle almost all race, cut short by his engine going pop. A pity it ended that way but hope to keep battling next season Uli  Cool.

Towards the end I was wondering if I could sneak into winning the championship with Tim in 4th place. But Clive's incident late on promoted Tim to 3rd, giving him the points to hold on the crown. Well played.

I for one really enjoyed racing with this mod. I agree, in terms of racing it is difficult, but keeping the machines on the road is another, to my mind enjoyable, challenge altogether. It also appears that though people can extract incredible performance over one lap, doing so over a race distance isn't really sustainable and consequently evens the field somewhat. Bumps and scrapes are inevitable with this mod, but yes, people do need to be more careful, especially in the braking zones. Most of my passes this season were completed getting better exits out of corners, rather than passing people under braking.

Cheers guys, until next time.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2018, 09:19:37 PM +0000 »

I messed up a possible victory again  Undecided
this time I killed my engine
It was my only third race in the Lancia, one useful experience more …
still a pity
great racing until that
Sam‘s pressure keep me awake Wink
thanks to you all for racing with you again, especially to our admin evil who organzized it so well
congrats to podium and our 55 debut champ Tim
hope to find full grids in a nice mod series, gladly the 55, with you next season
I‘m looking forward  Smiley
 
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2018, 11:31:45 PM +0000 »

well done Tim for championchip and Sam for the race....
 Lucky final result for me as some drivers got troubles in front ....I think it was my last race in 55, sadly !....I find this mod very nice , all is quite good....but really the breack are irrealistics !!...and I love GPL for his realism....

Ah ! yes !....Doni !!??  what are you talking aboiut Huh.....when I go out of pits , I'm behind you....I stay all the lap behind you to don't disturb you....then I  finish the lap still behind you......at this time I AM ALSO IN A QUICK LAP same as you !!!!   ....how many laps I must stay ( wait ) behind you Huh??....till you are happy of your lap and stop??.... then maybe you let me pass !???....so we are together in a quick lap , I go inside at Beckettes and pass.....I go little while and you try to cross my line but you go outside and do absolutly nothing to avoid me  you don't let any room and hit me out of track !!!(unfortunatly the contact eject you out of track ...lol..!)...after looking attentively the reaplay I can say that you intentionaly kick me out of track and also that is not the first time since I cross your way in GPL.....and YOU should have a penalty ...!!not me !    .....so please, stop your bullshit !...on track and forum!

  ( If you want I got the qualif session reaplay and I can give it to the moderators ...or put it on the forum then everybody can juge my  and your behaviour !.....and be Canadien don't change anything !)
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2018, 02:45:13 AM +0000 »

I was hoping that you would accept your guilt, Tris.  Seems not.  OK.  Now you're looking at paperwork.

Evidently, much too much to ask of you to 'wise up'.
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2018, 01:49:26 PM +0000 »

 Grin.....Have you realy take a look at the reaplay Huh....... OK!...let's the Mods juged it !...
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2018, 07:36:41 PM +0000 »

Isn't sad that your memory is so short, Tris.  Let me refresh that for you...

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12213.0

Note my posts, svp.
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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2018, 04:36:38 PM +0000 »

Isn't sad that your memory is so short, Tris.  Let me refresh that for you...

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12213.0

Note my posts, svp.
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So what !?? ....what do you want to show here !??.....LOL !....what I am suposed to see for help my poor short memory...?  ..... Grin

.....be more clear  !!! ...like this every body anderstand what you mean   Kiss
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2018, 08:14:01 AM +0000 »

Having started from the pit lane, it would be rather nice if the results could be adjusted to show my actual 6th place finish, instead of GPL's version that ignores my first lap..   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2018, 08:32:15 AM +0000 »

I am behind with my moderating Clive, and this race is one of those that is still outstanding. Apologies for making you suffer the injustice of the automated result for so long......it will be corrected soon.
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2018, 09:47:56 PM +0100 »

I am behind with my moderating Clive, and this race is one of those that is still outstanding. Apologies for making you suffer the injustice of the automated result for so long......it will be corrected soon.

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