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  • UKGTL S1-ish R2 Mondello Nat: May 11, 2006
May 11, 2006, 09:06:57 PM +0100 - Mondello Park (National) - UKGTL Season 1ish
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Pero_Grozni
 RS Motorsport
Alfa Romeo GTA (#907) TC-65 D2 1 1:02.860
65.809mph
1 39:07.981
63.426mph
36 1:03.121
65.537mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 RS Motorsport
Alfa Romeo GTA (#907) TC-65 D2 2 +0.687
65.098mph
2 +9.902
63.160mph
36 1:03.685
64.957mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 
Lotus Cortina (#901) TC-65 D2 4 +1.115
64.662mph
3 +35.962
62.469mph
36 1:04.393
64.243mph
Dunlop  
locutos ukgtr
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 5 +1.192
64.585mph
4 +37.604
62.426mph
36 1:04.379
64.256mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 11 +1.697
64.079mph
5 +42.669
62.294mph
36 1:04.353
64.282mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 18 +2.441
63.349mph
6 +59.318
61.863mph
36 1:03.938
64.700mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 12 +1.705
64.071mph
7 +59.494
61.859mph
36 1:04.545
64.091mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Lotus Cortina (#904) TC-65 D2 15 +1.884
63.894mph
8 +1:02.059
61.793mph
36 1:04.744
63.894mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 6 +1.210
64.566mph
9 +1L
61.507mph
35 1:04.348
64.287mph
Dunlop  
JohnnyDee
 Ghostspeed
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 8 +1.426
64.349mph
10 +0.611
61.491mph
35 1:04.586
64.051mph
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Lotus Cortina (#902) TC-65 D2 10 +1.628
64.148mph
11 +5.881
61.354mph
35 1:04.791
63.848mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#918) TC-65 D2 14 +1.882
63.896mph
12 +21.769
60.943mph
35 1:04.941
63.700mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 24 +3.856
62.006mph
13 +35.795
60.586mph
35 1:05.713
62.952mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Legends Racing
Lotus Cortina (#911) TC-65 D2 19 +2.488
63.304mph
14 +47.641
60.287mph
35 1:05.342
63.309mph
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 21 +2.801
63.002mph
15 +47.957
60.279mph
35 1:05.510
63.147mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 22 +3.450
62.385mph
16 +54.546
60.114mph
35 1:05.904
62.770mph
Dunlop  
EdamSpeed
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 7 +1.391
64.384mph
17 +56.732
60.059mph
35 1:04.426
64.210mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 17 +2.152
63.631mph
18 +57.995
60.028mph
35 1:05.501
63.156mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 
Lotus Cortina (#904) TC-65 D2 13 +1.728
64.049mph
19 (+2) +2L
57.772mph
34 1:05.155
63.491mph
Dunlop  
Andy Charman
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 23 +3.730
62.123mph
20 +3L
57.678mph
33 1:05.701
62.964mph
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 28CD Motorsports
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 20 +2.696
63.103mph
21 +13L 23 1:05.274
63.375mph
unknown
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Cortina (#911) TC-65 D2 16 +2.135
63.647mph
22 +23L 13 1:06.003
62.675mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Bully
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 23 +34L 2 1:56.387
35.543mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 9 +1.576
64.200mph
Excluded +1L 35 1:04.332
64.303mph
fuel
Dunlop  
Zacari
 Team Shark
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 3 +0.752
65.031mph
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 40s

Dan Minton does a standing start, making no attempt to return to correct position or even wait for the rest of the drivers to catch up. The rules clearly state start procedures and everyone is to read them before joining any SimRacing events. The huge advantage Dan Minton gains leaves me with no alternative but to disqualify him.

  • Dan Mintonpenalty — Incorrect start procedure and start position — excluded


Server replay time: 40s

djbully does a standing start, he realises his mistake and pulls over to retake his correct place on warm up lap. The rules clearly state start procedures and everyone is to read them before joining any SimRacing events. As Bully did stop and retake his correct place almost immediately, a 2 place penalty has been dropped to a warning.

  • Bullywarning — Incorrect start procedure.
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 50s

Complaints from several drivers that [GS]PRRibeiro was constantly using chat messages during race, generally "blue flag" messages to lapped drivers. I know that Ribeiro was involved in a very close fight with myself for 4th then 3rd place, however this does not mitigate the fact that in game chat during race is not permitted.


Server replay time: 72s

Edam Speed moves up 1 place during warm up lap, returns to correct position at 103s then retakes place again at 125s. There may have been some confusion caused by Dan Minton moving everyone down a place during warm up, however, drivers should be aware of their place on the grid at race start and not be swapping places during the warm up lap. If you're unsure, stay where you are and report incident to race moderator after race.

  • EdamSpeedpenalty — Incorrect start position, 1 place gained during warm up. — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 280s

MichaelB and Mad-RIP are racing down the S/F straight. Mad-RIP outbrakes Michael from quite a way back but does get inside Michael under control for the hairpin. As Michael turns in there is slight side contact. Both drivers continue racing without problems.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 341s

MichaelB and Mad-RIP are are driving down the S/F straight, Mad is setting up for a pass. As the enter the braking zone Mad pulls out to out brake Michael, goes a little to wide, locks up and goes straight through the hairpin.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1428s

Shark brakes slightly late and taps the rear of [GS]PRRibeiro going into the tight right before the S/F straight. Ribeiro continues without a problem, Shark spins out. As this resulted in an accident for the perpetrator not the victim, penalty dropped to 1 place lossed rather than the normal 2.

  • Simon Gymer (Shark)penalty — Late braking resulting in rear impact — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1532s

Ruskus is behind Don and looking to lap him, as they approach the left hander Don appears momentarily to be leaving the door open for Ruskus to get by but is only setting himself up for the corner, Ruskus locks up under braking and hits Dons rear sending him off. Drivers are reminded that it is the lapping drivers responsibilty to pass slower drivers safely and not try to force a way past or be overly aggressive where there isn't a passing opportunity.

  • Jeffrey (Ruskus)penalty — Rear impact resulting in victim spinning off — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2271s

Madd-RIP has spun off from 15th place, he rejoins by driving straight back across the racing line leaving Shark in 6th place with nowhere to go, there is a considerable side impact and Shark is lucky to lose no more than a few seconds to the car ahead. Madd-RIP had a clear line of sight down the track and should have rejoined only when safe to do so.

  • Madd-RIPpenalty — Poor rejoin resulting in collision. — 2 places lost

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:02.860
65.809mph
Pero_Grozni
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo GTAMay 11, 2006, 09:06:57 PM +0100
L1
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:03.121
65.537mph
Pero_Grozni
Race
Alfa Romeo GTAMay 11, 2006, 09:06:57 PM +0100
L1
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« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2006, 03:10:30 PM +0100 »

My FPS was fine, around 70 for the lap no problems so I don't believe that was the issue for me at least Tongue Wink  Will just have to see if it happens again tonight.
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« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2006, 11:37:05 PM +0100 »

Start was completely bonkers imo... Admins should prolly shout ROLLING START ROLLING START ROLLING START until timer reaches 3 secs or so...

Yes indeed -- I did not know we were actually doing a rolling start until well into the lap when someone finally typed so.  Getting passed doesn't really help the understanding, either, lol.

And on a rolling start, is it "qual order across the line" or "everyone goes when the leader goes'Huh  I never saw anything explaining this, but you guys have everything else spelled out so I must've missed something.

Sorry again for distracting chat -- I agree completely and have messed up dozens of laps (hundreds...) from chat interference.

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« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2006, 12:42:46 AM +0100 »

Yes indeed -- I did not know we were actually doing a rolling start until well into the lap when someone finally typed so.  Getting passed doesn't really help the understanding, either, lol.

And on a rolling start, is it "qual order across the line" or "everyone goes when the leader goes'Huh  I never saw anything explaining this, but you guys have everything else spelled out so I must've missed something.

Sorry again for distracting chat -- I agree completely and have messed up dozens of laps (hundreds...) from chat interference.

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You should always check out the rules. Here is the section from the start procedure:
    *  Races will be started from a stationary grid.
    * The polesitting driver will be responsible for leading the field around for a formation lap.
      The polesitter shall wait until the starting lights turn green before moving off. They should not go immediately after 30 second the grid formation countdown finishes, or GTR will give them a stop and go penalty.
    * The other drivers will move off only when the driver who qualified ahead of them moves off.
    * Formation laps shall be driven in single file. The leader shall maintain a moderate pace which allows all cars, including those in slower classes, to warm their tyres and brakes without struggling to stay in touch with the car in front.
      The leader should aim for a target speed on the straights of around:
          o GTR: 75mph (120km/h)
          o GTL: 50mph (80km/h)
    * No driver shall accelerate or brake hard during the formation lap.
      Drivers are encouraged to weave left and right to warm their tyres, and to warm their brakes by dragging them whilst under power.
    * During the formation lap, each driver is responsible for keeping a safe distance from the driver in front.
      Drivers should endeavour to avoid getting too far behind or to close to the driver in front.
    * The leader shall not accelerate at the end of the formation lap until they cross the start line. Each following driver should only accelerate when the driver ahead does.
      The leader should maintain a steady pace out of the last corner until reaching the start line. Following drivers should attempt to form an orderly, single-file queue behind.
    * No driver shall pass another until the end of the formation lap (when the leader crosses the start line), unless a driver has a technical failure which causes them to stop, or they leave the track.
    * Any driver who because of a technical failure stops, or who leaves the track (either by mistake or because of a failure), is responsible for rejoining the formation lap safely.
      This may mean waiting until the entire field has passed and rejoining in last place.
      The driver shall not attempt to regain their original starting position.
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« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2006, 12:55:32 AM +0100 »

My FPS was fine, around 70 for the lap no problems so I don't believe that was the issue for me at least Tongue Wink  Will just have to see if it happens again tonight.
Yeah, FWIW my FPS are back up in the 90's now so I doubt very much that was the issue. I'm sure it was a temporary blip and nothing to worry about long term.
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« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2006, 08:00:25 AM +0100 »

Entirity of the rules are on the website...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7
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