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May 20, 2018, 08:38:34 PM +0100 - Spa (1947-78) - UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
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 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 2 +0.051
145.610mph
1 48:41.645
144.500mph
12 4:01.786
145.506mph
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 8 +6.011
142.105mph
2 +22.871
143.377mph
12 4:01.214
145.851mph
Continental  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 6 +4.951
142.716mph
3 +1:15.389
140.865mph
12 4:07.161
142.342mph
Englebert  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 7 +5.572
142.357mph
4 (+1) +1:48.566
139.323mph
12 4:06.855
142.519mph
Pirelli  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 11 +28.167
130.432mph
5 +2:10.337
138.329mph
12 4:06.182
142.908mph
Englebert  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 4 +1.871
144.521mph
6 +1L
143.321mph
11 4:01.821
145.485mph
Pirelli  
DLogan
 
Maserati 250F F1 1955 10 +9.351
140.213mph
7 +1:01.367
140.136mph
11 4:04.987
143.605mph
Pirelli  
Clive Loynes
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Gordini T16 F1 1955 9 +6.041
142.087mph
8 +2L
118.696mph
10 4:10.223
140.600mph
Disco
Englebert  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 12 9 +10L
138.596mph
2 4:08.661
141.483mph
Disco
Pirelli  
uli
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 1 4:01.563
145.641mph
10 +11L
141.861mph
1 4:08.956
141.316mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 3 +0.287
145.468mph
11 +1.539
140.986mph
1 4:08.787
141.412mph
Disco
Continental  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 555 SS F1 1955 5 +4.166
143.172mph
12 +6.562
138.204mph
1 4:12.690
139.228mph
Disco
Englebert  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Maserati 250F F1 1955 13 13 +12L
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Pirelli  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 14 14 DNS ---
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Pirelli  

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Round 1 - Summary
Just 1 reported incident.


Server replay time: 0h50m15s

Lap 12 - Blanchimont – Dean Logan and Francesco Molteni
Francesco and Dean are trading places on the last lap with Dean leading as they approach Blanchimont. Both drivers are pushing hard. Dean runs slightly wide on the exit and Francesco sees an opportunity to overtake on the inside. He accelerates hard, but the grip afforded by the rear tyres of the Lancia is not good enough and he understeers into the side of Dean’s Maserati. Francesco spins but can continue. Dean is punted into the trees and is out of the race.

Dean had two wheels on the kerb when contact was made. He was trying to stay on the tarmac and was entitled to a car’s width of track at least. Dean did not at any point have more than two wheels off the tarmac, so his move did not constitute a re-join. Consequently, Dean did nothing wrong.

Francesco was entitled to attempt a pass but he needed to do it safely. The adrenaline is pumping on the last lap and no doubt this contributed to Francesco trying a bit too hard. The contact was entirely Francesco’s fault.

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2018, 01:31:10 PM +0100 »

Yes, they are hosted by the same guy -> blw.net
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2018, 08:33:01 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2018, 09:15:34 PM +0100 »

can someone pls post the pw, I registered yesterday but the thread tells me I'm not licenced...
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2018, 09:46:07 PM +0100 »

Too late now but fangio. Sad

Well that was annoying. Running close in 3rd with Uli and Axel when Uli lost it at Burnenville and slid back across the track, Axel got through I didn't, lost a wheel, race over.  Angry Shame felt really comfortable and was content to sit behind the two of them waiting for a mistake. Oh well.

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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2018, 10:03:43 PM +0100 »

Binned it  Undecided. Need to find more time to practice I think.
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2018, 10:06:28 PM +0100 »

sry for that john
in practice two time engine troubles, anyway in my third try close pole and after start it seemed fine
but already in round two at the brunnenville I lost control Sad
could have been such a nice evening.  Undecided
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2018, 10:36:34 PM +0100 »

Yeah shame for the fun of this track, would have been great battle...
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2018, 10:56:24 PM +0100 »

I wasn't expecting brake problems here but my attempts to pass Fran must have used them more than I realised.

As a result I had to run off track to avoid hitting him at Les Combes.  I went clean over the barrier and was staggered to find that the car was still running!
But it wasn't well.  The engine had lost half of its three-dead-rat-power and the steering was all over the place and giving nasty great kicks every few seconds.

I thought that I would keep going in the hope that more of you would crash out but I have to say that you are a great disapointment to me!   Tongue
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2018, 11:18:18 PM +0100 »

The results:

Code:
Spa67             Sun May 20 21:27:16 2018

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  24 Uli55 Hofmann                    Lancia   GER 4m01.563s              6
 2  20 Axel Cookie                      Lancia   GER 4m01.614s   00.051s   11
 3  28 John Hammonds55                  Mercedes GBR 4m01.850s   00.287s    8
 4   2  55evil                          Lancia   GBR 4m03.434s   01.871s    5
 5  26 Fulvio Policardi-55              Ferrari  ITA 4m05.729s   04.166s    5
 6  14 Tim Muttram55                    Gordini  GBR 4m06.514s   04.951s   11
 7  18 fran55 Molteni                   Lancia   ITA 4m07.135s   05.572s    3
 8  36 Bastian Grupp                    Mercedes GER 4m07.574s   06.011s    1
 9   8 Clive Loynes55                   Gordini  GBR 4m07.604s   06.041s   11
10  16 Dean Logan 55                    Maserati CAN 4m10.914s   09.351s    7
11   6  Doni55                          Gordini  CAN 4m29.730s   28.167s    3
12  34 Sam Blood                        Vanwall  GBR   No time   No time    0
13  32 Bob Whitwell                     Maserati GBR   No time   No time    0
14   4 60fps UKGPL8                     Lancia   GBR   No time   No time    0

All times are official
Generated with GPL Replay Analyser


Track: Spa67             Sun May 20 21:27:16 2018

RACE RESULTS (After 12 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  20 Axel Cookie                     Lancia   GER   12  48m41.645s           
 2  36 Bastian Grupp                   Mercedes GER   12  49m04.516s    22.871s
 3  14 Tim Muttram55                   Gordini  GBR   12  49m57.034s  1m15.389s
 4  18 fran55 Molteni                  Lancia   ITA   12  50m30.211s  1m48.566s
 5   6  Doni55                         Gordini  CAN   12  50m51.982s  2m10.337s
 6   2  55evil                         Lancia   GBR   11  45m00.207s   1 lap(s)
 7  16 Dean Logan 55                   Maserati CAN   11  46m01.574s   1 lap(s)
 8   8 Clive Loynes55                  Gordini  GBR   10  49m24.002s   2 lap(s)
 9  34 Sam Blood                       Vanwall  GBR    2   8m27.684s  10 lap(s)
10  24 Uli55 Hofmann                   Lancia   GER    1   4m08.000s  11 lap(s)
11  28 John Hammonds55                 Mercedes GBR    1   4m09.539s  11 lap(s)
12  26 Fulvio Policardi-55             Ferrari  ITA    1   4m14.562s  11 lap(s)
13  32 Bob Whitwell                    Maserati GBR    0   0m00.000s  12 lap(s)
14   4 60fps UKGPL8                    Lancia   GBR    0 DidNotStart  12 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Bastian Grupp                     4m01.214s  11
 2  Axel Cookie                       4m01.786s  12
 3   55evil                           4m01.821s  11
 4  Dean Logan 55                     4m04.987s   9
 5   Doni55                           4m06.182s   9
 6  fran55 Molteni                    4m06.855s  11
 7  Tim Muttram55                     4m07.161s   9
 8  Sam Blood                         4m08.661s   2
 9  John Hammonds55                   4m08.787s   1
10  Uli55 Hofmann                     4m08.956s   1
11  Clive Loynes55                    4m10.223s   2
12  Fulvio Policardi-55               4m12.690s   1
13  Bob Whitwell                        No time
14  60fps UKGPL8                        No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
Uli55 Hofmann                    1
Axel Cookie                      2-12

Number of lead changes: 1
Number of leaders: 2


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
Axel Cookie                      11
Uli55 Hofmann                    1


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Bastian Grupp                        8      2       6 
 Doni55                             11      5       6 
Tim Muttram55                        6      3       3 
fran55 Molteni                       7      4       3 
Dean Logan 55                       10      7       3 
Sam Blood                           12      9       3 
Axel Cookie                          2      1       1 
Clive Loynes55                       9      8       1 
60fps UKGPL8                        14     14       0 
Bob Whitwell                        13     13       0 
 55evil                              4      6      -2 
Fulvio Policardi-55                  5     12      -7 
John Hammonds55                      3     11      -8 
Uli55 Hofmann                        1     10      -9 


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Axel Cookie                         (12/12)     100.00
 Doni55                             (11/12)      91.67
Bastian Grupp                       (10/12)      83.33
fran55 Molteni                       (8/12)      66.67
Clive Loynes55                       (7/10)      70.00
Tim Muttram55                        (6/12)      50.00
 55evil                              (5/11)      45.45
Dean Logan 55                        (5/11)      45.45
Sam Blood                             (2/2)     100.00
Fulvio Policardi-55                   (1/1)     100.00
John Hammonds55                       (1/1)     100.00
Uli55 Hofmann                         (0/1)       0.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Sam Blood                         0.000          0.000    4m08.661s      2
Axel Cookie                       0.668          0.930    4m03.013s     12
Bastian Grupp                     1.135          1.400    4m04.628s     12
Tim Muttram55                     1.232          1.617    4m09.210s     12
 55evil                           1.587          1.880    4m05.026s     11
Dean Logan 55                     3.811          5.103    4m09.774s     11
fran55 Molteni                    5.463          7.187    4m12.210s     12
 Doni55                           7.013         11.881    4m13.448s     12
Clive Loynes55                   16.065          3.916    5m00.773s     10
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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2018, 07:40:50 AM +0100 »

I have had a beatifull battle with Tim Muttram but during the umpteenth overtake at the enter of Blanchimont i have done an error.
I know that Tim was somewhere on my flank but i was surprised to suddenly see his wheels entering into the curve.My reaction,to avoid an incident,was a shot on the wheel but this have caused the lost of control of the car.I was into the green but without mechanical consequences.Take note that i was with a Lancia and Tim with a Gordini(difference between the pilots).
After this i have had a battle with Dean Logan.During the last lap,in the same place,Dean overtake me but go large into the curve,i tried to stay internal as possible(the speed don't allow better IMO) but Dean,obviously,try to re-enter and at this point the contact was done.
Despite this 2 out of truck my race was not so bad but,until now,i'm quite happy to have strongly reduced the engine explosion thanks to the new pedals.
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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2018, 09:16:33 AM +0100 »


I thought that I would keep going in the hope that more of you would crash out but I have to say that you are a great disapointment to me!   Tongue

I must have got the message on a late pit board Clive, so I threw it at the scenery on the final corner of the last lap in a ball of flames, to try and promote your finish by one place. That is the sort of gentleman I am.................maybe  Roll Eyes
 
Got home in time to join the race to find that Arnold and Mable had the Lancia warmed up and ready to go. Seemed a little expensive on tokens, but what the heck!
Qually on full tanks put me in 4th place but I was still tweaking gear ratios when it ended and then discovered that my wheel and pedals went limp!!
I tried to re-calibrate whilst the last few drivers  completed their final Q laps and thought that I might just about have saved my race....until I got on the grid. The pedals were working again, but the wheel was 45 deg off centre!!!  but at least it did turn the front wheels.

Eau Rouge was a real challenge from the start when I discovered that not only was the wheel off centre but the FF was screwed too  scared scared.
Lap 1 was a learning curve as I tried to adapt to the strange controls, but I stayed in touch with the learning trio...I did not dare get too close with a car that was twitchy as heck in the corners. Then Uli and John had their contretemps I was up to second but already aware of Bastian gaining ground in his Merc. When he caught me I allowed him an easy pass and tucked into the slipstream, hoping he might tow me up to Axel.

But Axel had things under control ( which was more than I could claim!!) and gradually eased away up front, but I felt there might just be a chance of sneaking second if I could make a good pass on Bastian near the end. I tried a few dummy passes with around 6 laps to go and settled down to watch and wait.
A half chance with 2 laps to go sucked me into trying to take 2nd spot. I although I pulled approx 150mtr lead at one point it was a lap too early and Bastian caught me on the final lap and retook the place.
There was one last chance if I could outbrake him into La Source, but I needed to stay close out of Blanchimont. Well I was close, and I might have gone for last of the demon brakers award................... but putting a wheel on the grass and nailing the gas combined with a dodgy steering and wierd FF caused me to lose control in spectacular fashion.
The car flipped from one side of the track to the other,hit a pylon to rip wheels off, I think I avoided Bastian who was braking conventionally for La Source and passed him whilst upside down, before ending it all in a fireball against the barriers......just 200mtrs from the flag.
Hero to Zero in 3 seconds   Roll Eyes Undecided

Grats to Axel on the win and thanks to Bastian for some great racing. Apologies to Clive Loynes for making my charitable gesture too late to benefit him Wink
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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2018, 12:34:59 PM +0100 »

Well, my debut with 55 cars wasn't the best  Roll Eyes
First thing I have to complain about mass chatting in qualy about Reset. Please read the race post, moderators commit time to write it, and chat it supposed to use by moderators for important info  Wink
I found a comfortable 5th place on the grid with the Fezza, but during qualy I found the big draft effect when following a car that I hadn't experienced practicing offline alone, so I had to optimize the gear ratios to not blew the engine.
Start and first  lap was good with Bastian passing me running down to Stavelot, but on lap 2 I was shocked by the crash ahead at Burneville that leaved John's Merc stopped on the race line and everybody managed to pass around on grass inside without crashing, so thinking to the luck just gifted and following Bastian on the run to Masta I was caught off by the greater speed I had approaching the esse and didn't slow down enough to negotiate the first kink and hit the outside rail rebounding on fire across the track and ending on the rail path outside, luckily no one was involved and no train passed to end me  Grin
I had spent all day trekking on the mountains and I was rather tired so my reflexes weren't good and I packed it to have a early dinner and a good white wine glass to cheer at my crash  Grin
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2018, 09:48:07 PM +0100 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.  There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
bagrupp
2
Pro
Clive Loynes
20
Pro
Doni Yourth
20
Pro
EvilClive
5
Pro
fpolicardi
18
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Phil Thornton
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Am
DLogan
18
Am
Gareth
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Am
Jeep
12
Am
Uli   
5
Pro
FullMetalGasket
20
Pro
Will Tway
10
Pro
Baab
18
Am
Cookie
5
Pro
Samb
10
Pro
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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2018, 11:03:04 PM +0100 »

Nothing more to add. great fight with clive, sorry for your "early" end. I know how it feels coming on that little gras strip here, and flying towards the left-side trees.
I was watching that awaitung you attack and moved to the rigth side so that you only hit me left wheels and luckily i could go on to la source unhurt.

Now i understand your crazy moves with an off-center wheel Wink

Grats to unbeatable axel!
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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2018, 11:28:47 PM +0100 »

There was an error in the results of S32 55GP R10 at Silverstone.  Clive Loynes had a lap dropped by the server.  This has now been corrected which effectively promotes Clive up to 5th position in S32.  Clive has pointed out that this effectively makes him a Pro and makes Bastian an Am (only the top 6 in S32 are designated as Pro drivers). Thanks to Clive for being so honest.  Available tokens for Round 2 have been updated.
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